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Aching to post but don't want to pollute the progress general with nonsense? Post here instead.
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>>2400
That in itself is pretty sad if you have any memory of how vibrant 8chan's /agdg/ was. It wasn't a matter of raw PPH, but just how many good developers and promising projects there were.
I guess there's no use in me bellyaching over the past. 8chan died six years ago, and the webring has enough people bemoaning its state and theorizing about how to fix it instead of just doing fun shit together.
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>>2401
They all went back to halfchan for the publicity. That's all to it.
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>>2400
There's people who visit and post here, but I work on a lot of different things so I may create an illusion that there's more active devs here than there actually are. Since I know what posts are mine it's very obvious to me how rarely someone else posts what they're working on.

>>2401
Personally I have no interest in the past, I'm always thinking what can we do from here. Other than being here so new visitors don't think the place is completely dead, my only real theory for "fixing imageboards" is to make my own imageboard and do many things correctly at the same time: positive non-confrontational atmosphere, encourage OC and projects, new interesting site features and unusual boards, admin/dev who is easily reachable and takes suggestions for improving the site, free board creation as long as the board is not too contrary to site culture or otherwise trying to cause harm, surgically precise moderation that only targets things that do actual harm to fun. I think a lot of things have to fall in place at the same time if you want it to make a difference.
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>>2402
Nope. From what I saw, the ones who posted on cuck/agdg/ were there because it was temporarily a better place than what zzzchan's /agdg/ became for a while: a bunch of easily upset nodevs who didn't meme and weren't interesting to talk to. 
>>2403
I should probably do likewise, even though everything I've fucked around with over the last couple years has gone nowhere, as at least it's something to talk about. It's definitely better than waiting until I have something that satisfies me and leaving the few people here to talk about their projects in isolation.
>>2403
>make my own imageboard
Problems: Where do you get a userbase from? Most just flock to where others already are. And fresh blood is a completely captivated audience by FAGMAN.

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This is a megathread for all the different games I'm making and the universe they take place in.

So if you've been around 8chan since the gamergate days (or, god forbid, somethingawful circa 2010) you probably know who I am. I'm PsychoJosh, aka GigaDev and PJ, notorious giantess shitposter and no-lifer solodev/artfag. I'm creating this thread because I'd like to have a space for my individual projects that I can post updates and basically blog about, and Mark is a faggot, so I can't be as open about it on 8moe.

My games take place in a universe I've been building since I was in junior high - I can't remember the exact date this manifested but it has existed in some form since at least 2001. Originally starting as a mean-spirted anime parody I didn't know what to do with, thought I was gonna make a webcomic or an animated series but I decided at some point I wanted to make video games. Which, as it turns out, is really fucking hard, but I'm still in there trying to make these games happen.

My most infamous project is GigaMaidens, the 'main event' game I'm building up towards - a 1v1 3D arena fighting game about giantesses who destroy cities as they fight. Obviously a grand project that is much too big to tackle on my own, so I have it on the backburner while I try to complete smaller-ish projects starring Kasha, a catgirl from the same universe as GM.

(cont'd)

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST 2. The board is SFW. Mature content should be spoilered.

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You know there's always /late/, OP.
/late/ is too pure for this furfaggot.
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Work in progress walk animation for Kasha.
Also managed to finally get over my art block on Sachi's hair. Kinda like how it came out. All I have to do is texture her now.
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>>2393
Kasha is so cute
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>>2394
I'm happy you like her friend.

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What's your favorite album or song to chill out and listen to in its entirety?
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Discovered that recently. It's a clever blend of soft rock with jazzy elements. Don't be fooled by the cover (I must admit I like it a lot) it's really nice and cozy.
Some tracks have a really gorgeous and sexy saxophone parts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9-GB0BGZP4
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>>15902
>Don't be fooled by the cover
It looks degenerate af. Likely created by some form of psychopath.
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>>15903
>degenerate
>psychopath
That's not how I wood describe it. It does have a slightly dark and tortured side, but at the same time I find her rather poetic in the sense of a certain Baudelairean romanticism: these skeleton puppets seem to be imploring the heavens...
I completely understand that it may not appeal to eberryone, but to say that it's degenerate seems a bit strong to me and more steeped in an arbitrary judgement.

Take at least a moment to listen to the music, which is not a reflection of the cover art, especially the second track, which is berry beautiful.
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>>15904
Ehh? Doesn't it look kinda funny?

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Notre position actuelle par rapport à l’architecture du IIIeReich, faite d’une grande proximité temporelle et d’une considérable distance idéologique, est à vrai dire la seule que la fiction ruiniste du national-socialisme, telle que nous allons l’étudier, ne se soit pas donné la peine de prévoir et d’imaginer. Nous sommes encore tout près du IIIe Reich, et pourtant nous vivons après lui, avec les conséquences que cela ne manque pas d’avoir sur le regard que nous portons vers cette architecture. Ou celle-ci s’offre désormais dans un relatif anonymat ou alors elle a connu ce que Françoise Choay qualifie d’anéantissement symbolique. Lorsque, entre ces deux extrêmes, elle existe dans un abandon révélateur, cette désaffection est encore trop légère pour se donner à lire, à même la structure des édifices, à l’aide de la théorie des ruines. Nous contemplons, là où la ruine s’annonce, comme au complexe de Nuremberg, plutôt que des voûtes effondrées, des marques qui ne sont pas à l’échelle de la démesure anticipée par la théorie de Speer: de simples meurtrissures de la pierre ou une graphie de lézardes qui n’ont rien des contours généraux échevelés ou du sublime effondrement des combles prévus par l’architecte. C’est peut-être en quoi la théorie des ruines de Speer rend particulièrement inconfortable. Elle rappelle que les grands édifices du Reich ne furent conçus, “ ni pour l’an 1940, ni pour l’an 2000 mais pour durer mille ans ”, comme le disait Hitler. Ce disant, le Führer pariai
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>>2341
Tu vas pas nous c/c tous les articles du Breton Nippon anon hein ?
>>2341
POTD

Based AF.
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"Je trouve que ça ne te va pas"

Elle m'avait fait du rentre-dedans tout au long des trente minutes qu'avait duré mon attente dans le salon de coiffure de son patron. Mon désintérêt pour ses manières d'allumeuse avait piqué sa curiosité.

"Eh bien moi j'aime beaucoup", dit-il à voix basse en se penchant vers moi. Pendant un court instant, nos deux visages se contemplèrent dans le miroir. Il avait magistralement dompté ma chevelure rebelle en un carré plongeant lisse qui flattait mon visage pâle et imberbe. Le jeune lycéen métalleux s'était évaporé. De son côté, son visage de trentenaire métis caramel affichait le sourire satisfait d'un enfant gâté qui a obtenu ce qu'il voulait. Et alors que je sentais cette nouvelle personnalité s'emparer de moi, il se tourna vers Mélanie et lui lança :
"J'ai chaud, va nous chercher un coca." 
Elle s'exécuta, sortit prestement en direction du Spar cent mètres plus bas, et nous nous retrouvâmes seuls. Alors qu'il m'époussetait, je me rappelai subitement pourquoi j'avais pris rendez-vous dans ce salon précis, en toute fin de journée. Bien que je m'y préparais depuis plusieurs semaines, j'étais anxieux. Je rougis instantanément.
"Ça te plaît aussi, on dirait"
Je laissai échapper un rictus coupable.

Sa caisse, étroite et surélevée de son côté, était située contre un mur, attenant à la porte d'entrée du salon. Même assis, il me dominait de cinquante bons centimètres. La clameur de la rue, invisible de l'autre côté du mur, me fit réaliser que ce moment de flottement était presque fini. Je scrutai Dominique à l'affût du moindre signe de sa part pour régler ce que je lui devais.
"Ah je t'en ai laissé un là..."
Il chassa de son index un cheveu et, avec lui, le dernier vestige de ma dignité qui s'aggripait encore désespérément à ma joue.
Mes lèvres se desserrèrent avec un soupir tandis que nos regards se verrouillèrent. Il hésita un instant, puis fit glisser son doigt jusqu'à ma bouche. Ma respiration s'accélérait tandis qu'il dessinait mes lèvres de gauche à droite dans un va-et-vient lancinant. N'y tenant plus, j'effleurai ce vit de substitution avec le bout de ma langue. Immédiatement, il se glissa dans ma bouche. Je refermai mes lèvres de surprise, puis me repris en suçant maladroitement son index prisonnier. À ses protestations timides, je compris vite que je m'y prenais mal ou qu'il voulait autre chose. Désemparé, je décidai simplement de desserrer à nouveau les lèvres pour le laisser glisser à sa guise entre ma langue et mon palais. Il exhala de satisfaction, se mit debout en forçant ma tête à se pencher en arrière et, tout en tenant mon jeune cou immaculé d'une main, pénétra de l'autre ma bouche offerte jusque dans ma gorge. Surpris de nouveau, je fermai les yeux un court instant. 

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Le ministère de la Culture a produit un communiqué de presse à l’issue du pitoyable braquage du musée du Louvre dimanche 19 octobre 2025. Ce qu’on y lit est insupportable de par sa condescendance et son absence d’autocritique. Dire que « les malfaiteurs ont été mis en fuite »… Il fallait oser !

Mais surtout, et cela est très grave de la part du ministère de la Culture, il est très mal rédigé. Le niveau d’expression et la rigueur de rédaction sont tout simplement lamentables.

Cela commence dès le titre.

    → COMMUNIQUE DE PRESSE

En français, aucune règle n’indique qu’on puisse se dispenser des accents sur les mots écrits en majuscule. Ce fut à une époque l’usage dans la presse écrite, pour des raisons techniques liées à la difficulté de gérer les interlignes, mais ce n’est aucunement un choix pertinent ; cela produit des fautes d’orthographe. Qu’un rédacteur du ministère de l’Intérieur ne le sache pas est effarant.

    -> huit objets d’une valeur patrimoniale inestimable ont été dérobés dont

Le mot « dont » induit que la liste ne soit pas complète. Or, la liste est donnée en entier. La phrase n’est pas française.

    -> la reine Marie-Amélie et de la Reine Hortense
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He died 5 months ago

Rip dead yitty yat 😥
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It hurts like a bitch
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Yeah, it does.
>>3099 (OP) 
>>3145
>>3179
my condolences anons. I find that having another cat helps with grieving and moving on. Just don't think of the new one as replacement, but a new member of the family.
>>3099 (OP) 
my younger cat died around may, i got them to give my first one company, it was hard to see them go, but the first one is still there and I need to be there too.
I have to take this moment to tell everyone, please anons if you have a kitty and you notice any strange change in behavior, even if it minor, even if it's kitty becoming more grumble-some, or if you notice them walking a bit funny, PLEASE take then to the vet immediately. Because when whatever manifests, it's going to be too late and it'll happen to quick for you to do anything about it.

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Post your comfiest webms, mp4s and others.
OCs welcome.
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>>15832
>people do who see something uncanny valley-ish. It's something abou
>>15829 here. Sorry, anon, I didn't mean to be rude, honestly. I try to avoid this kind of content as much as possible, but as soon as I come across it, I feel an instant reaction of rejection.
Keep posting, but here we prefer really relaxing videos over quantity.
>>15834
>I won't post that again.
Thanks for caring of the /comfy/ vibe :)
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Please excuse yet another video of digital legos but this was too adorable not to share.
Heavy snow walk in Shirakawago, Gifu Prefecture. Day slowly dawning.
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>>15900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=250BFPDmJZs

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Number 3, or is it 4? Who's keeping count, anyways?

Last thread hit bump limit, so now here's an all new Trashchan edition of the thread. I like this place. I think it will make a good home for us.

What's on your mind, tonight?
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>>3609
Well, it seems you've sorted this issue out in your mind, Anon. That's good...I knew you could do it!

>I've decided not to do the homeless thing, or even seeking shelter because of too many unknowns and variables.
I think this is wisdom.

>Thank you for the well-wishes, anons.
You're welcome. May you fare well! Cheers.  :)
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Halloween Month is soon to conclude in this time zone. But in a few hours will begin 30 days of Hallowmas, or All Saint's Month. Blessed be! Blessed be.
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New wallpaper each time, about half of them are very /late/ related, both nature vistas and cityscapes: https://unsplash.it/1920/1080?random
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>>3588
lookup "joeythegypsy" on yt he has a lot of advice on hobo living

also advice from my own experience:
>walk into sportsgear store and buy thermal base layers and warm socks
>if you can, compare several stores or get a hold of wharehouse workers they should have good tips
>locate gyms you can use to shower
>look into fishing gear although it might not be very practical if the rivers are frozen in your state

having a car sounds like a priority tbh because it allows you to carry your shit around with you
if you have money saved up, won't you consider looking into one of the cheap latin countries

>>3609
>As if losing weight weren't hard enough; how can anyone possibly strength train and hard cardio in this much pain? I can't even do the most basic bodyweight exercises like crunches and planks!
bruh it sounds like you're not at the stage where you should think about exercise, rather i say you should focus on physical activity
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>>3406
I have over 1000 hours as femshep in Mass Effect 2.  I love this game

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This is a friendly singular-thread board for weary anons. There is no enforced subject or topic here, so you can discuss anything you want as long as it follows the rules. We are unapologetically gatekept.
Oh, and we have lots of flags.
Have fun!

Board rules (READ, NIGGER, READ!)
Links

Di Gi Charat music collection

Enlist Today!
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>>36394
Very cute.
>>36403
Thanks for the links.

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Because greenfriends are /comfy/
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>>15878
I hope the pic wasn't to salty language for /comfy/, if it is please spoiler or delete it.
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Fixed xD
it's ok anon :)
>>15878
>have any of you anons grown less common varieties of carrots? 
Same carrot anon, but yes. Last year I grew a mixture of white, purple, orange, and yellow carrots.  I can't recall the specific varieties I had for this year or last year though.
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>>15896
ahem aren't orange carrots THE standard carrots? i think i ate the purple carrot sometime, but i don't remember if it tasted fine or not
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>>15897
Ahem, ahem, I was remarking I grew a variety of carrots last year, ahem.  Orange is the typical (most marketable) coloring but there is a great variety in shape, size, and flavor among orange carrots.  Solid purple carrots typically have a stronger flavor.  Some purple carrots are only purple on the outside with pale yellowish or orange interiors and those have been a bit bland but still bitter in my experience.

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So, what are some of your favorite memories of the old internet?


Can be websites, memes, events or any other aspect of the days of Web 1.0 and 1.5


For a quick reference, here's what I would define as Web 1.0 and Web 1.5


>Web 1.0: Usenet, Geocities and Angelfire, AOL (1991-2001)
>Web 1.5: Early YouTube, ED, 4chan in its "wild west" days, MySpace, YTMND, Newgrounds and the peak years of dA and Fanfiction.net (2001-2008)


You also had cross-generation stuff like GameFAQs and IMDB which are still around today, although sadly IMDB's infamous message boards are gone
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>opherVR is an enhanced Internet Gopher client that includes a 3D visualization tool for viewing resource collections as 3D scenes. It explored how people outside of formal research laboratories could use spatial metaphors to access information.[1] The 3D view was intended to be similar to 3D games of the time, like Spectre.[2] The authors were interested in how this spatial representation could address the "lost in hyperspace" feeling that people using conventional Gopher clients sometimes experienced.
Most of the links are dead, but it would be interesting to see if you can make it work today.
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>>5122
Forgot the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GopherVR
AI generated web 1.0 wiki
https://grokipedia.com/
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Only Internet memories are vaguely watching my dad and brother use a BBS, and seeing others typing in real time in an actually instant messenger that doesn't exist anywhere anymore as far as I know, then timeskip from the mid-90's to early 00's and been active online since.
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>>5081
Why miss it when you can go to Marginalia and Wiby, or hell IRC and Gopher and BBS and Usenet, RIGHT NOW?

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Parfois je ramasse des insectes intéressants lors de mes balades dans la cambrousse.

Ici un beau spécimen de Neocerambyx raddei de la famille des Cerambycidae, plus connus sous le nom de Capricornes (ou Longicornes).
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>se promener dehors
>se prendre des toiles d'araignée dans la figure
>encore et encore
>csq tu te fais bukaker par les araignées
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Un jour, j'ai recueilli un jeune pigeon tombé du nid dans un parc, et je l'ai ramené chez moi pour le protéger des chats.
Arrivé chez moi, j'ai constaté que le pigeon avait des spasmes bizarres, comme si il était chatouillé par quelque chose. Au bout d'un moment, une bestiole absolument dégueulasse est tombée de lui, genre un mélange entre une araignée et une mouche.

C'était une Hippoboscoidea ou "mouche du pigeon".
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>>2372
En fait, maintenant que je me souviens : il n'avait pas juste l'air d'être chatouillé, il bougeait frénétiquement comme si il était piqué par quelque chose, ce qui rend le truc encore pire à mes yeux.
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>>2372
Les pigeons sont en général porteurs de tout un tas de cochonneries.

vidéo pas frelatée mais cool (petite pique à Marine au passage)
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Eriovixia gryffindori, une araignée qui imite une feuille morte pour se camoufler.
Comme sa forme et sa couleur évoquaient l'un des chapeaux de sorcier des livres Harry Potter et plus précisément le choixpeau, les découvreurs de cette nouvelle espèce lui ont donné le nom de Godric Gryffondor (Godric Gryffindor pour les anglophones), le propriétaire original du chapeau qui trie les élèves arrivant à l'école de sorciers Poudlard

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Post here when you visit /comfy/
Thread #12 autumn edition

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https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=NTwtOC7JMZ8
君が吐いた白い息が
今ゆっくり風に乗って
空に浮かぶ雲の中に
少しずつ消えてゆく
遠く高い空の中で
手を伸ばす白い雲
君が吐いた息を吸って
ぽっかりと浮かんでる
ずっと昔のことのようだね
川面の上を雲が流れる
照り返す日差しを避けて
軒下に眠る犬
思い出もあの 空の中に
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>>15847
I like the sentiment behind this 
>>15852
It's one of life's worries out of the way, makes it easier to be comfy (barring having to turn up and do the work - but that's by-the-by)
>>15839
I wood say this is also a hard task.
I'm stuck in what feels like a little unfulfilling loop with work, and procrastinating from things I really ought to do - but on the other hand I've got back into guitar in a major way so that is where I am sourcing my comfy for the meantime.

>>15858
Welcome, hope this place is what you're looking for :)
I hated job hunting - I'm deliberately keeping a big pot of savings just so I can take my time if I have to do it again without it being such a big stress like the first time - I hope you're not feeling too defeated by it
I hope eberryone had a great Halloween.
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> I hope eberryone had a great Halloween.

It was okay. Not bad, but slightly on the side of good. I didn't observe nearly as much horror material as I could have. But horror doesn't really spook me anymore, only being mildly entertaining and sort of interesting but only rarely: my real life and the surface world of "'normal' 'people'" is far more dreadful, vulgar, and hostile.

As far as I'm concerned, all of November is akin to Boxing Day but for Halloween. So I may be making up for lost time in September (Halloween Eve) or probably not.

All year can be fearful, for there's always a reason to be afraid.
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>>15885
And all year can be comfy, for there is always a way to maximise comfy

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Comfy is a place to relax. Please be kind and keep the things nice.

The rules are:
>Follow the global rules
>Keep it cozy
>Keep it SFW
>No rabble rousing
That means no unrelated political posts, intentionally provocative posts, posts insulting someone's race or religion or promoting committing crimes.
>No boat rocking
That means no uncalled for insults, rudeposting, or instigating drama.
>No advertising
You can talk about comfy places, but blatant advertising is not nice.

Other nice boards:
/late/ - Late Nights
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>>15889
>Please other anons, tell me if anything wrong 
Nope.

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A thread for the discussion of the struggle of the modern man, incel theory, coping methods, and support for the downtrodden. To keep the thread in line with board culture, and to prevent normalnigger infiltration, the following rules will be observed.

1. Absolutely NO NSFW or uncomfy imagery, regardless of context or pic rel. This means no niggers, 3DPD genitalia, facefagging, etc. If your pic makes you think about this rule, don't post it.

2. Trolling should be kept obvious and in good taste. Posting "just bro" advice or other normalfag quips without sufficient irony will be considered grounds for a lobotomy.

3. Tasteful autism only. No political sperging unless directly related to conversation (essentially, no brother wars), ABSOLUTELY no gay shit, tranny shit, or other deviart-tier drivel.

That aside, have fun, Anons, and hang tough.
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>>1891
I was able to make my own design, which the image above was modified from.
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>>1892
Whoops, I accidentally sent the message prematurely...
What I was trying to say is...

I was able to make my own design, which the image above was modified from.
Granted, it does have limited articulation, but it does have unlimited customization options, and moddable offline local AI. And she's fully DIY, bypassing any market restrictions. I would also say that it is very cute and lovable, but ofc that is subjective

And I am not the only one. Other people are working on their own designs
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>>1893
It is impressive, Anon. That said, we don't all have that sort of talent to make those things ourselves (hence my comments on the market).  I will have to be satisfied with my present means of coping (My Little Pony).
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>>1894
Well you can make my design quite easily, if you can work with Ikea furniture, model planes/ships, or even pony figurine dioramas, then you can definitely make a Galatea v3.

-No soldering required
-No programming required
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>>1896
Updated to 3.0.7

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This board has been claimed by the cutest rabbit. Surrender your power cords immediately or suffer the consequences.

>Who the fuck is Pipkin Pippa?
The cutest rabbit, who enjoys browsing (and possibly posting) on imageboards. She goes on a lot of tangents.
>What kind of content does she produce?
Mostly chill gaming streams with lots of talking about related and unrelated issues. Also some meme vids. She is up to all the latest interwebz news.
>Where does that bunny hang out?
Youtube for streams and vods: https://www.youtube.com/c/PipkinPippa
Twitter for updates: https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa
>What else should I know?
Maybe turn down your volume when first tuning in. The rabbit is easily excited.
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Pippa has been on a roll lately making fun of games that try to railroad your decisions by playing them satirically. It just brings into perspective how if a game forces a 'correct' decision, then nothing matters when you play the game.
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>>2338
omfg, this whole stream was gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxUNKHcEZQU&t=42m13s
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Peebs on her midlife crisis buy a sports car arc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMKWytbbIp4
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>>2346
The other day she was talking about how her insta feed is curated with hot girls and military uniforms. She has a gambling and alcohol problem. She lives in an RV. She wants to work and listen to cars all the time. Unless the other girls do something, her nails look like a lesbian's. She says that fashion is something only whores do.
If it weren't for the occasional bad takes like Joker 2/Gavin Newsom, gushing about Nimi having a baby, and that one time she did her nails, I'd be absolutely convinced she was some form of Babiniku.
But for real, that kind of behavior, I know this has been beaten to death, but she has got to be the most closeted lesbian in the world, jfc.
Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRWCWmVUmTs

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Post some /late/ music. Playlists or recommendations are welcome too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiHHR9I3XAc
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Mind of a Thief
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>>3629
Lol.
IN MINECRAFT, OFC

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I wood like to invite anyone browsing to come and solve a few puzzles together. Post an image and I will make a jigsaw of it if you want.

https://jiggie.fun/comfy
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>>15877
GG /recola/

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KOT
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>>15871
Batcat? Catman?
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>>15874
Spoopy Kots of teh night!
>>15874
TEH FELINE KNIGHT

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Post comfy wallpapers, looking at the same screen eberry day can be tiresome.
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