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Keep at it, Anon!


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1. Respect the global rules.
2. The board is SFW. Mature content should be spoilered.
3. Avoid shitposting and modernspeak (based, -pilled, etc.). This is a place of creation and should be treated as such.
4. Discussion regarding the board itself should be taken to the meta thread >>1.
5. Have fun.

The board was set up merely a bunker and repository for developers, waiting for 8chan to come back online, but since it's in the process of committing sudoku, this could be your new home.

List of other bunkers:
http://8agdg.wikidot.com/general:bunkers
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Where's that link that explains what happened to the agdg community after the exodus? About splitting into groups and whatnot?
I can't find it.

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Post what you're working on, won't you?

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I accidentally made a neat looking shader.

I've always found it cool how items in MU Online gain colorful metallic shaders if they had high enough upgrades, I want to do something like that too.
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>>2361
That is neat. Thanks for the update, Anon. Good luck with your project!
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>>2356
As I suspected, dynamically drawn shapes are compatible with this system. My circle builder seems to add an extra triangle, got revealed when I gave them transparency.
Are we rebranding into /drama/?
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>>2343
I've been excited ever since >>2356 because it solves almost all of my problems and I want to make a game, but these stupid background graphics are giving me analysis paralysis. I keep overthinking about everything and not coming to any conclusions about what I should do because when I think of something, I immediately start feeling like it's a dumb and inefficient and over-engineered and has too many steps and moving parts. I feel like I already solved the problem I'm currently struggling with but I can't see it.

I think the internet has given me ADHD recently, I just avoid the problem and procrastinate even though clearly I should spend a few hours thinking about it uninterrupted. Or maybe it's because I fucked up my "work life balance" in the worst imaginable way due to working from home since last week.
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>>2373
I spent today without internet and it was kinda helpful, maybe I should do that every Sunday from now on.

I just lazily duplicated most of the rendering system for each chunk, so now I can draw chunks by themselves. It takes almost a whole millisecond to draw them which is too much, but I'm still copying sprites from my buffers to GPU buffers, sending 4 megabytes of instance data to the GPU every frame for static non-moving sprites is probably not optimal. My target frame time is 8 milliseconds (120 FPS).

I don't know why OBS struggles to record, it looks way more smooth in reality than it does in this video.

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How many pushups should the average yesdev do?
More than you did yesterday.
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The most important part of an RTS is not the RTS, it's the campaign. You could say that the genre itself is misleading. It's more important to create units and factions that the campaign needs, not design a campaign around the units and factions that you've created.
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Good god the text tool in Krita is an absolutely atrocious pile of horse shit, I don't know how they managed to fuck it up so badly and then just abandon it for years. They post monthly updates on their site but it's usually just some community shit instead of development updates. Sometimes they tease a text tool rework but the last proper Krita update was 2 years ago, and I get the impression that they're over-engineering some shit that doesn't matter (like character metrics and shitskin languages) instead of getting the absolute basics of the tool right.

I swear AI is going to replace graphics before we get a good 2D image editor unless I make it myself. I was trying to make a mockup for ANOTHER PROGRAM, for the love of god someone else please build random useful tools, I can't do them all myself, I have way too many projects but there's only 1 of me.
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>>2375
Yeah its a real shame about text handling in Krita. Otherwise a great tool IMO.

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This is a megathread for all the different games I'm making and the universe they take place in.

So if you've been around 8chan since the gamergate days (or, god forbid, somethingawful circa 2010) you probably know who I am. I'm PsychoJosh, aka GigaDev and PJ, notorious giantess shitposter and no-lifer solodev/artfag. I'm creating this thread because I'd like to have a space for my individual projects that I can post updates and basically blog about, and Mark is a faggot, so I can't be as open about it on 8moe.

My games take place in a universe I've been building since I was in junior high - I can't remember the exact date this manifested but it has existed in some form since at least 2001. Originally starting as a mean-spirted anime parody I didn't know what to do with, thought I was gonna make a webcomic or an animated series but I decided at some point I wanted to make video games. Which, as it turns out, is really fucking hard, but I'm still in there trying to make these games happen.

My most infamous project is GigaMaidens, the 'main event' game I'm building up towards - a 1v1 3D arena fighting game about giantesses who destroy cities as they fight. Obviously a grand project that is much too big to tackle on my own, so I have it on the backburner while I try to complete smaller-ish projects starring Kasha, a catgirl from the same universe as GM.

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USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST 2. The board is SFW. Mature content should be spoilered.

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>>2360
My games aren't ero. None of my games have this.
GigaMaidens is the only one that has sexual themes but it's not outright pornographic. Trying to play it straight and make a proper fighting game with giantesses in it.

Anyway here's some stuff I've been working on for KVK.
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>>2365
Spoiler your shit and you'll be fine. You know how those weird artists focus way too much on feet because that gives them a boner? Your art is the same way, just because it isn't explicit sex doesn't mean it isn't fetishistic.
>>2370
>Explain to me what's going on in this image that's fetishistic. Literally nothing.
lol
You know there's always /late/, OP.
/late/ is too pure for this furfaggot.

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>>2070
>>2073
Released 1.0 of this just now.
The reason I experimented with vectors >>2219 is so I could draw the favorite stars.

The only real thing missing is performance, but I can't be bothered to do anything since this is already fast enough for all of my needs. The amount of effort required to manage a path/file cache wouldn't be worth what I'd gain.
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>>2335
Neat! Glad you've made such progress with it. Any plans for new projects now?
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>>2336
I jump around projects randomly so I can't predict anything. Maybe an imageboard.

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Speaking of making an imageboard, I'm thinking of how to store data in an efficient way in a database/whatever. A lot of strings are very short, so it feels dumb to store a 4-byte or 8-byte integer for their length, giving them a fixed length like 200 is also wasteful. On the other hand, if you use a small integer, then you may run into limitations. So, to make things easier and get all the advantages, I came up with a way to read and write variable-length integers, inspired by UTF-8. I can just use this and not have to think about it:
#define swap_endian_16(x) __builtin_bswap16(x)
#define swap_endian_32(x) __builtin_bswap32(x)
#define swap_endian_64(x) __builtin_bswap64(x)

static u64 flexint_read_u64 (void* data, u64* value) {
	if (*(u8*)data < 0b10000000) {
		*value = *(u8*)data;
		return 1;
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>>2337
Neat! I personally prefer the horrors of compile-time dispatch using Sepples templates, but this looks efficient.
>>2337
One downside of this is that it might be harder to resize data since the beginning of the string may need to move, you have to avoid overwriting the memory from the beginning of the string and such. Honestly, I've had variable length ints my mind for a long time but I can no longer remember what exactly I wanted them for. It was probably for some kind of string lists, arrays of arrays, maybe even data streams for an MMO, or to compete with JSON which technically only needs 3 bytes/characters to separate strings ("",).

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Is the original 8/agdg/ owner in charge of this board, or was it started by someone else?

Also all-purpose meta thread I guess.
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Heads up to moderation: the guy who tanked the /agdg/ thread over on zzchan apparently thinks he's gonna try his shit here too now. His schtick is to post gifs and shit of a bunch of squares moving on a screen and then some inane non-question like "what do I do now? I don't get the maths" or whatever. Keep an eye out and delete/ban on sight please, thanks.
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>>2238
This is him is you don't recognize the posting style: 
>>2236
>>2237
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>>2238
>>2239
Thanks for the headsup, Anon. Yes, he's been abusing Trashchan for a few days now.
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>>2238
I still find it baffling they refused to do anything about it.

>>2244
It's appreciated.
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>>2247
>I still find it baffling they refused to do anything about it.
I remember seeing that guy in the zzz/v/ /agdg/ threads and his posts were promptly deleted almost every time they appeared. Did I miss something?
I figured those threads slowed down due to the autist posting his DA-tier scribbles of uncanny women.

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So up until now, we've had a lot (lol) of off-topic posting, a lot a one-and-done "how do I make game tho" posts in various threads, especially the meta and progress threads. This is now the new dumping ground for those posts. Do try to put some effort into your posts though, you'll get more responses and won't have to face the wrath of jacked Carmack and his dragon dildo sword+2 that way.
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>>2105
Newer doesn't always mean better. There's people who still make amazing stuff with just C or "C-like C++" (AKA C with only a select few C++ features) because the fundamentals of programming haven't really changed in decades, it's much more important to nail that part than some C++ features.

>>2108
I haven't read the books but I would avoid the Java ones because that's a pretty abandoned language these days and was always a mistake in a lot of ways. It may be useful if you want to get a job maintaining some old ass crapware that was built on Java though.

Visual Basic stuff will probably get you locked into Microsoft's ecosystem, which is extra bad since Microsoft has been heading straight into the trash in recent years. Some of that stuff is probably obsolete too since Microsoft keeps updating their shit.
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>>2109
>Newer doesn't always mean better.
No, but C++11 got some new features to the point it might be considered as a different language (lambdas, vararg templates, range-based for, constexpr functions, etc. Concepts can also be useful if you do templates, but they're a newer additions and assumes you're not stupid. Of course still no static reflection, so you'll be forced to roll your own for anything but the most trivial programs, but that's just how C++ evolves, useful features have the lowest priority)
>fundamentals of programming haven't really changed in decades
Yeah, but these books look more like teach language X instead of teach programming fundamentals.
>I would avoid the Java ones because that's a pretty abandoned language
Thank you for contradicting yourself in one post.
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>>2113
I'm not against Java because "it won't get new features", I'm against it because there's no future for it. There will be less and less jobs for it, less of a community and discussion and help, and the virtual machine that runs Java will probably have less support in the future, who knows if it runs on future consoles or phones.
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>>2114
>no future for it
I wouldn't say it so clearly. Sure, not as popular as it used to be, but lot of enterprise garbage are still written in java. Visual Basic is much worse in this regard (not that I'd miss any of them, both languages are an abomination).
>>2266
You can only get a lightweight engine or a drag/drop editor.

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>>1787
Great stuff.
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The developer of Teardown did a talk about their new physics engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvsvd67XUKw
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I've come to a very enlightening conclusion on gamedev and it's really improved my outlook on how successful my game will be. It's based on the idea that most people (90% or more) involved in gamedev are idiots. These are the people that are permanently stuck in tutorial hell/decision paralysis instead of actually making something and getting hands-on experience, trust fund kiddos that do nothing but throw money at third-worlders on Fiverr and Upwork and say "make my game for me" then get really mad when none of it looks good or plays well, people that don't understand why their totally unique match-3 puzzle game with pastel colors only sold two copies, one of which was refunded, or people that actually have a good game but only decided to start marketing weeks before release with some halfassed reddit posts and nobody knows it exists.
So when you read articles like "Most games on Steam never make a profit" it seems demoralizing at first, but when you look a bit deeper you realize that most games released on Steam are asset flips, AI garbage, puzzle games, or games that otherwise had zero effort put into their development or marketing. The few remaining games are ones that actually had effort and thought put into them and are doing pretty well.
With all this in mind, if your game is:
>unique
>fun to play
>looks good
>has a modest amount of mar
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>>2222
The vast majority of people are retarded. There's nothing surprising about that, but it's hard to internalize just how far-reaching consequences that has, other people's retardation can warp your perception of reality. Most people really have no idea what they're doing or talking about, and lack even the most basic ability to interpret the world around them or their own actions and their consequences.

As long as you care about making a good game, succeed in making it, and don't completely fuck up the content that is visible on your store page, it will probably find success automatically thanks to Steam's algorithm and word of mouth. You only "need" marketing if your game is ok but not great, or if your game is garbage that relies on meme streamer appeal or virality to make anyone care about it.
>>2222
This has also been a revelatory experience for me, in many things other than game development. With how many generation-defining indie games have released in the last few years (I consider 2025 to be 2 AP; 2 years After Pizza Tower) it can seem daunting to ever imaging having the same level of cultural or commercial success.

But I'm finally trying to get around to doing something with my free time and ideas. If the number of stupid people who've stumbled onto success is any indicator then it can't be that hard.

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>>1587
Are you trying to invent cataclysm:dark days ahead?

>backpacks
Why not just make everything into a storage? All existing items have to be stored somewhere, and a lot of items are both storages and "items". So simply register every item, by ID/pointer into its storage space. On loading, recursively load all used storages, starting from "the world". 
Its actually important part of the interface. Depending on number of items/buttons, game might start lagging, if every button pressed checks every other button location against it. You will need to separate them into containers anyway. 
And with everything being a container of their own, you can have "hidden" part, where item stores materials its made of.  

>how to ID
You either use half assed system, or make a proper all encompassing item ID system. 
> I want to refer to the inventory by it's name
You dont mean, you literally search all existing items via std::string or something like that?
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>>1587
>>1588
>create_item()
>create_inventory() 
I just realized that the way I explained it doesn't make any sense because I left out context. Those functions in reality are create_iteminfo() and create_inventoryinfo().

The way my stuff is organized is that I have objects and infos. The info represents the object's type and has all the static information about it, like name and description and sprite, you only modify those at game startup. The object has per-object information, like how many items are in an item stack, they are actual objects that exist in the world.

Pic related are the actual, un-edited data structures for my items. What I'm talking about is creating an Iteminfo, and connecting the relevant Inventoryinfoid into it. I don't need or want to store the inventory info's string ID into the item info, I just want the numerical ID, but the item info may be created before the inventory info so the numerical ID wouldn't exist yet.

>Are you trying to invent cataclysm:dark days ahead?
Not sure what makes you think that.
Test.
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New bread.
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>>1587
You need a better vision of what your game should be about, what is it called?

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As the title says. Anyways, here's mine:

- i5 2th gen (2c/4t)
- 8gb ddr3 ram (2x4)
- 256 gb ssd (sata)
- Manjaro (gnome DE)

It's okay for some development with python..
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>>1896
Possible but probably not? You sound like you use giant cpu towers and high-end gpus which are giant anyway.
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What one is better (for game development), the RX 7700 XT or RX 6750 XT?

I'm planning to pair it with an Ryzen 7 7700 and 32gb DDR5 6000mhz.

The price difference between these two cards is about 63 euro.
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I don't think anyone on any imageboard has the required level of hardware and software/engine performance knowledge to be able to answer this.
>>1953
Should be fine either way. It only matters for working with blender, and in a minor way. Most new hardware is more than good enough for game dev, except when its something randomly unsupported.
>>1953
Both are fine. You usually just want something with enough VRAM, low power draw and a fast enough core.
However, the 7000 series/RDNA3 has a flaw with rendering proper 1080p with av1, I believe, and AMD just gave up on fixing it since it was a hardware/architectural issue.

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