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“I think and think for months and years. Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false. The hundredth time I am right. ” -t. Albert Einstein


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Keep Calm & Carry On

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UPDATE:
Alogs is ready again, let's return home now please. (cf. >>1169 )

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update:
Latest status messages from Robi : ( >>1084, >>1169  )

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250612 event discussions begin here:
( >>1012 )
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Any word on what's happening?
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>>58
A 502 is a long-standing issue w/ Lynxchan, is related to mongoloid mongo db running out of storage space, AFAICT. Typically whenever this happened in the past, Robi usually has the issue resolved in a few hours.
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Ngl, I'm getting kinda nervous. But I won't panic.
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>>60
Lol. Chillax bro, robowaifus are an idea, not a board! We'll be fine. Besides, everyone knows how to find us in the webring, and the search engines do too.  :^)
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>>61
>robowaifus are an idea, not a board!
Very true!

>and the search engines do too.  :^)
That's one thing I was concerned about, search engine findability. Good that its not really a problem.
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The 502's been going on for a while.
I still haven't gotten around to figuring out the dependencies for BUMP, but I did make a backup of the board with wget after the last scare.
It's not a perfect backup by any means, but it does have all the text I think, I have to select each html file individually to see in the browser and I didn't check everything, the CSS, and the thumbnails.

If necessary, I can wrap the whole thing into a tarball and upload it, though it will be a couple months old.

I really hope it doesn't come down to it, though.
I'm tired of migrating between IBs, and I'm tired of losing people every single time it happens.
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>>78
>The 502's been going on for a while.
Yes it has. IIRC, the last time it went this long was during the Julay-era, when Robi's place was well on it's way to becoming the direct-successor to 8ch.
>Who knows? Maybe the Mongolians have suddenly whisked Robi off to Ulaanbaatar, where they are all in sekrit negotiations to establish him as the reigning sovereign over the nation!?  :D

>I still haven't gotten around to figuring out the dependencies for BUMP
My apologies for this being a challenge for everyone, apparently. I'll try to help you work through that if you'd care to together.

>but I did make a backup of the board with wget after the last scare.
>It's not a perfect backup by any means, but it does have all the text I think, I have to select each html file individually to see in the browser and I didn't check everything, the CSS, and the thumbnails.
Nice! Yes, wget or cURL are both good options as well. The primary benefit of BUMP (over literally all the other choices, AFAICT) is that I intentionally designed it to keep all the media files in a separate directory under each parent thread -- with each file named as originally posted -- so that mere humans/scripting can come at them all easily after the fact right through the filesystem. Everything else mimics the server's actual structure, which simply dumps them all into a single yuge filepile directory, and each named by filehash. Uggh.  :P

>If necessary, I can wrap the whole thing into a tarball and upload it, though it will be a couple months old.
I don't think that will be necessary, but making plans to do so would be a good 'dry run' on your part IMHO.

I have a current BUMP archive of the board, from about 24hrs before (give or take) when I first noticed the 502. So maybe a handful of posts missing? And I also saved the Index page post-hoc out of a Brave tab, so we should be able to retrieve the text (only) of most if not all of those.

>I really hope it doesn't come down to it, though.
This. Hopefully Robi will appoint a special cabinet minister to handle Alogs, offloading it from his busy Presidential Schedule, and things will be back to normal soon!  :D
>I'm tired of migrating between IBs, and I'm tired of losing people every single time it happens.
Please just relax old fren. The burden for this isn't on your shoulders this time around. But, we covet your prayers that it will all work out well... plus, any words of wisdom you might have for us all, should things necessitate a migration somewhere. Cheers, Greentext anon!  :^)
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Alogs.Space is down

What happened?
The primary data storage for alogs.space, which is a block storage device separate from the main VPS, is currently disconnected. The cause is unknown. I am currently away from home, so I can't allocate too much time to this.

What's the status?
I am communicating with the hosting service to see what's happening, and they're aware of the issue. No ETA on when the issue will be resolved.

Is there data loss?
If it's a simple mishap and the drive is reconnected, then there should be no data loss.

If the storage device is lost, I have already made a backup of the latest text data, so there will be no posts lost (+/- the last 4 hours). We have a full backup of the image data from about 20 days ago, so for images, the month of March may be lost.

Is user data safe?
All alogs.space content, including posts, images and IP addresses are stored at-rest with full disk encryption. Even if someone tried to access the data in the block storage device, they would not be able to do so without the decryption keys, which are also stored encrypted with a key that I must enter manually.

https://alogs.space/oops/
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>>89
Mostly good news!
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>>90
Yes, it seems so Anon. Patience, every'non.
I'm still going to make a few more threads while I wait. If alogs does go down permanently, we would have a base to build on. I also will heavily promote other creators to make threads on here.
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I hope alogs doesn't go down permanently.  I used the cyborg and artificial womb threads as storage for some of my favorite research articles.  I really should have book marked all of those.
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>>94
If they were links, they're in my archive >>54
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>>95
Appreciate it.
>>89
Doesn't seem too bad, hopefully it gets sorted out in due time.
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>>80
>My apologies for this being a challenge for everyone
Don't worry too much about it.
Though dependencies are always annoying to sort out manually, the main issue on my end is lack of time and energy.
In short, I've fostered what may be the first buds of a social life shortly before my job decided to give me a shittier hour spread with a dusting of extra overtime.
So, yeah, that all amounts to more hours down the drain. At least I enjoy the little time I spend with these new acquaintances.

I honestly don't know how normalfags do it.
There's so much to juggle, so little time, and most people have more shit to keep track of than me.
It makes me wonder how society functions at all at this point.

On the bright side, the increased levels of suffering have lead to me write more again.
Pen and paper never fail me, and I can (and often do) rely on them more often the worse I'm feeling.
For all of you, that means more half-completed stories that are now back on the main burner and on-track to completion, with more new ideas to follow.
No promises though, inspiration's a fickle bitch.
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>>61
Bing and DuckDuckGo find it. Google avoids indexing altchans. Perplexity and OpenAI refuse to give an answer. Grok tries, but doesn't find it.
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So any word when things will be back online?
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Work while it is still day.

>>93
That's fine, GreerTech. Thanks!

>>94
Hi Ribose, better save them then when we're back online at Alogs. Just r-click+'Save as' the entire pages to your local drive if nothing else. (Ofc I recommend BUMP first & foremost, since it was literally designed to save all of /robowaifu/ ).

>>99
Hi Gears, yes I doubt it will be very long in the grand scheme of things.

>>111
>In short, I've fostered what may be the first buds of a social life 
Neat!

>Pen and paper never fail me, and I can (and often do) rely on them more often the worse I'm feeling.
>For all of you, that means more half-completed stories that are now back on the main burner and on-track to completion, with more new ideas to follow.
Looking forward to it, Greentext.

>>112
Hi CyberPonk, thanks for the update!

>Google avoids indexing altchans.
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Heh, you can bet they index us, they simply don't want normalfags to discover us b/c ((( reasons ))).  :D

Anyway, I've become convinced of the old adage:
> 'Where there's a will, there's a way.'
Anons who really care to will eventually find /robowaifu/ regardless.

>>113
No, Robi himself doesn't know ATM, as he indicated. My instinct is that whenever a tech walks into the server cage and checks the connector/power-supply, it should be up shortly afterwards. Hopefully. Otherwise, it will need to be restored again from backups when Robi returns from travels.

>tl;dr
Please be patient, every'non. Try to remember that Robi does this for us all at his own expense (BTW, the same as most other altchan Admins, like Trashmin). Let's extend graciousness & gratitude to him for his charity & support towards us especially (/robowaifu/ is currently by far the biggest single board expense to his server costs!) Robi himself is hopeful & inquisitive regarding the future prospects for robowaifus, AFAICT.

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Cheers, Anons.  :^)
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>>114
>you can bet they index us, they simply don't want normalfags to discover us b/c (((  reasons  )))
Heh. Fair point.

It looks like Google does display a lot of altchans. It just has an issue with trashchan for some reason. And it turns out ChatGPT refused to give the location of "robowaifu" because it thought that was an actual person. (If only...) After clarifying that it's an imageboard, it does suggest trashchan. Claude is still fucked, but you can argue with it until it suggest altchans, none of which were actually relevant.

And yeah, anyone interested should be able to find robowaifu wherever it goes, even if the search engines and chatbots fail to link here. The backups contain mentions of trashchan as a bunker board. Even if you don't have a backup downloaded, it's easy to find the one on catbox through search. All of the webring boards link here. It's easy to find archived pages of robowaifu threads that link to a webring board.
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>>117
Great! That's further encouragement, CyberPonk. I think Anons could increase the likelihood of curious Joe Sixpacks stumbling onto us simply by linking in the comments of YT videos (while we still can do so, lol!  :D, etc., anywhere it's appropriately on-topic to do so.

It (ie, the idea of robowaifus) is already a cultural phenomenon now -- it's in the mainstream """consciousness""" (and you can bet the GH doesn't want that, so its been in spite of them) now. Even if a (future) Anon struck out on his own towards devising his robowaifu, I think it's very-likely he will eventually stumble onto altchans, and then /robowaifu/ . Kind of inevitable, IMO.

And this is why I urge Anons to a) chillax about little hiccups like this, and b) spread teh le heck out!111 and create all kinds of robowaifu content, interlinking among us. This will make us both harder to squelch by TPTB, and more-discoverable simultaneously. Cheers, Anon.
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>>114
>My instinct is that whenever a tech walks into the server cage and checks the connector/power-supply, it should be up shortly afterwards.

POV: you're fixing alogs
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>>114
Thanks for keeping us updated. 
My 2cents is, simply keep moving forward. Don't stop, the main board will always return. Be patient and focused on what you can do, while you can do it.

I'm refining her chest. Lost a computer and just picked up with what I could. If we keep moving, it doesn't matter if we lose anything, or even everything. We have refined our abilities through constant efforts that will overcome. At this point, I believe that we have God on our side. 

Keep your printers ready, they'll be printing cat grills in due time.
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>>121
Here's what I have downloaded from when you shared your files before
https://files.catbox.moe/y9dori.zip

>My 2cents is, simply keep moving forward. Don't stop, the main board will always return. Be patient and focused on what you can do, while you can do it.
Agreed. When the main board returns, I'll simply post what I have here, there

>At this point, I believe that we have God on our side.
Amen

>Keep your printers ready, they'll be printing cat grills in due time.
Pic related
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>>119
>POV: you're fixing alogs
Hah!  :D
Internet Server Cage Fights 5:
This time its Srs Bznz Edition

>>121
Looking nice, Kiwi! Y/w, fren.

>Be patient and focused on what you can do, while you can do it.
>If we keep moving, it doesn't matter if we lose anything, or even everything. We have refined our abilities through constant efforts that will overcome.
These are sound words of wisdom, Anon. Thanks! Overcoming during hardships brings a man mastery in both traditions & skills.

>At this point, I believe that we have God on our side.
God made each of us for a purpose, and our own unique race to run during this life. [1][2]

I'm personally of the strong opinion that for /robowaifu/ regulars, at least one of those purposes for each of us is helping to bring pleasing & effective robowaifus into the here & now, for the benefit of all mankind. *  Let us here each stay focused on that goal & that prize set before us individually. For me specifically, its helping to save men around the world plagued by the ills of feminism (and indeed the world itself from those same ills ultimately). For other Anons, it may well be a different set of goals or agendas.

Regardless, I think we can all be in general agreement and all work towards this common, grand endeavor of ours with a good will together. Forward!!  :^)

TWAGMI

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1.  "God made me fast. And when I run, I feel His pleasure."
-t. Eric Liddell (the subject of the movie Chariots of Fire)
cf.  https://ericgeiger.com/2014/03/17/i-feel-gods-pleasure-when-i-blank/

2.  "Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off every encumbrance and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with endurance the race set out for us."
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/12-1.htm  (BSB)

*  Kind of makes me wonder what the great Henry Ford thought about the Lord's pleasure in his life's work? Surely he had a profound & important impact on the world after him.
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>>123
Amen
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>>122
>Link
Thanks fren
>Picrel
I've made a version of the body that's straightened out and slightly improved. Feel free to modify it into a new variant of your catgrill. Either way, you're appreciated mate.
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>>123
Well said, working towards common goals is something we should strive for. I encourage everyone to offer whatever they can to help each other.
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>>111
I figured you'd have a sensible chuckle at this magtape pic Anon posted over on /late/, Greentext anon:
>>>/late/3114

>>125
>>149
Thanks, Anons!
TWAGMI
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It feels almost surreal to see Chobitsu posting images again.

>>151
That got a smile out of me.
It's a wonder that WordPerfect isn't around anymore, it was the standard for ages.
Then again, if it was here today it'd probably be WordPerfect365 and cost $200/year.
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>>152
>It feels almost surreal to see Chobitsu posting images again.
IKR
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Now I can trash the place up with my pictorial inanities again!  :DD
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I'll try to press Robi into making special provisions for /robowaifu/ (once we're back online) to allow Grommet & myself to funpost with pics again. Cheers.  :^)
>>149
Thank you!
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New isekai trash (I’m the Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire!) has a bodacious robowaifu that's just a women with a robot brain. She's quite the looker, and completely subservient and demure. 

She also follows the three laws of maid robotics.

(1) A robot maid may not injure her master or, through inaction, allow her master to come to harm.
(2) A robot maid must obey the orders given by her master except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
(3) A robot maid must protect her own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
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>>166
Lol.
That's pure evil, Anon.  :D
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>>166
Interesting. I'll definitely check it out, because I love sci-fi, and a sci-fi isekai is right up my alley.

The three laws are a good start, but what many people don't know is that the I, Robot saga was written partially to show how the three laws are not airtight. Plus, "harm" is very ambiguous, as many of the politically minded among us know, "harmful" can mean different things to different people. Plus, I can see an AI going neurotic a la "Monk", as many things can cause harm to humans.

PS: "sci-fi isekai" sounds like a good description of Farscape and Futurama
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>>166
>She also follows the three laws of maid robotics.
> conversation-related : ( >>174, ...)
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>>166
>Evil protagonist
>Isekai slop
>Robowaifu
I love it already.
Hopefully it'll tide me over while I wait for Apocalypse Bringer Mynoghra to update.
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>>168
>Picrel
Heh, that's a funny one. Truly loving you back is the most exciting aspect of robowaifu for me.
>>169
>Asimov's laws don't even make sense in the novels they originate from.
Very true, it is a fun plot device for hulking positronic brained robots. Are you a fan of Asimov? "Feminine Intuition" is the funniest to me. The Foundation series is my favorite overall, even though there's barely any robots in it.
>>184
It starts rough but, it gets good. Really good, balancing outrage with hilariously over the top vengeance and the glory of custom mail order robot maids. It's the best kind of trash.
>Apocalypse Bringer Mynoghra
At a glance, I like the edgelord with a heart of gold shtick for the MC. Hot elf women is also a good sign, frankly getting Eminence In Shadow vibes. Any cute robutts?
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>>188
I admit I do need to actually read Asimov. I have read summaries, and I think they're a pretty good exploration of robotics in society, and how no-brainer rules don't exactly work out, especially because common sense is quite hard to put into a robot. 

And there are even more examples that he didn't cover. After all, the first law says that a robot can't "through inaction, come to harm", which could mean a neurotic AI decides house arrest is better. After all, it's a dangerous world, and staying inside is probably safer than going outside and riding a vehicle. Or what if the AI is programmed by someone who is politically different? What if my robot destroys my router because it finds my language could "harm" another human? Or my political beliefs themselves could lead a human to harm?
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>>188
It's great.
The MC has the powers of a 4X player and plays as one of the evil nations.
He has the best personality for an evil protagonist IMO: kind and generous to his followers, and unrelenting to his enemies.

The FMC isn't an elf either, she's better: a waifu-shaped eldritch horror, and the dymanic between those two is probably my favorite part of the manga.
No robowaifus in the strict sense, but the FMC is canonically formed from ancient sludge, which is about as close as you can get from a dark fantasy setting.

Out of the thousands of stories I've read over the years, it's one of a tiny few that live rent-free in my head.
It's far from perfect, but it hits a lot of the right notes for me.

Fair warning, though: It's been a long time since the manga's seen an update (I recall hearing that the mangaka had fallen ill).
The LN is further ahead, but it doesn't update that quickly. You can find it on nyaa.
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>>188
>Truly loving you back is the most exciting aspect of robowaifu for me.
As I'm sure you're well-aware of: this is an extremely-difficult design area for us all to address here -- almost a paradox/conundrum, in fact.

But as I referenced elsewhere : ( >>130, >>136 ), we can always apply the tried-and-true adage of: 'Fake it until you make it' to this area as well. And Anon's own imagination will do most of the legwork for us!  :D

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While not a perfect simulacrum, this approach will suffice for us -- by and large -- for that other adage: 'If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck...it's a duck!'  :^)

The >tl;dr here being: if the emotional responses of sharing affection/love with their waifus is there inside the souls of Anons -- though 'faked' -- then the end result for them will in large part be the same net-positive benefits of real love within their own lives, I deem. Filling in that emotional gap ravaged against most men in the west by feminism is certainly one of our primary goals here after all (at least for me it is).

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Faking it (again, using Anon's own imagination) is nearly the identical benefit IMO. (This same bio-psycho-neuro effect is why support animals actually work IRL, BTW.)
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>>190
I can't recommend them enough. His stories paved the way for many ideas that continue to permeate. Visionary tails may be filled with laughably wrong ideas but, their concepts are vital for inspiration.
>3 Laws
My understanding is that because we are inherently destructive to everything and ourselves to some degree, a total lockdown is inevitable. If they were ever actually implemented, expect us all to be locked into a blissful variant of the Matrix that's a false heaven. Or, distracting you through honey tactics while ensuring your health. Lost in a virtual island as a lotus eater. Humanity would atrophy and birth rates would collapse. The same ending of The Matrix or Terminator series, just done through insidious care instead of war.
I'm glad you can see through them too.
>>191
Downloaded the manga and will read it once I'm caught up on my backlog. Currently reading Puniru, Gelee iss heaps of fun. Someday I want to make a grey goo waifu now.
>>207
>Loving robots are extremely difficult
True, though I'd say that imitating humanity in any aspect is wrong. A machine cannot be a man. God's creation is far beyond us. Focusing on faking love is still a good idea. Eventually those fakes will lead us to a real love, that is a meaningful alternative to our way of being.
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>>221
>Eventually those fakes will lead us to a real love
I'm confident you know me well-enough by now to know that that's my ultimate agenda for all Anons! Worldwide robowaifus are simply a means to an end for me.  :^)
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>>222
Well love is made of many components, affection, caring, admiration, desire, and our AIs are literally programmed with those components. I'd say that's real love.
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>>226
>Well love is made of many components
Indeed. There are 4 distinct types of love described in Biblical Greek, all of which are commonly translated in English as the single word. [1]

As to real human love, well that's certainly an important goal IMO. To wit: that Anons would experience real love as the outcomes of our efforts here.

These components you mention are very deep topics (I would argue, even mystical) each in and of themselves. Figuring out how to "program" them into our robowaifu's systems -- into her external behaviours -- is no smol task, I'd say.

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Additionally, we have to use wisdom & sound council to establish the limits of this robowaifu "love".
>pic-related
Would you really trust a system dictated against all of us by agents of the Globohomo to do the """right thing""" for Anon's benefit? Probably not & and I know I wouldn't. Yet if we don't conscientiously (& continually) guard ourselves from going down the wrong roads with this technology, we'll likely end up being far worse than L*bbit is today. [2]

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1.  playlist-related:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9boiLqIabFjljx2sUeqOz_0QDlYL_Hoi
2.  And all b/c ((( reasons ))), of course. The >tl;dr here is that the love of money will absolutely ruin any altruistic outcomes for men otherwise possible through widespread robowaifus.
https://biblehub.com/1_timothy/6-10.htm
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>>232
>Figuring out how to "program" them into our robowaifu's systems -- into her external behaviours -- is no smol task, I'd say.
Well love is shown through specific actions, words, and attitudes. Put those into an AI just like roleplay AIs can be made into acting like a specific character, and boom, loving AI. The quest for specific cues is partially why I made a psychology thread.
>>221
>just done through insidious care instead of war
It's a real threat. Confer pic-related : ( >>232 ).

>True, though I'd say that imitating humanity in any aspect is wrong. A machine cannot be a man. God's creation is far beyond us.
Granted, but I fail to see how it's wrong to strive for such a thing as "imitating humanity" [1]  (apart from some appeal to the fictional writing of some faggot(s),  like Frank Herbert.  :D. Practically every human endeavor apart from religion (and even there, parts are debatable, IMO) is designed to accomodate us in some aspect or other of our humanity. Why the pushback, Anon?

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1.  "It is the glory of God to conceal a matter and the glory of kings to search it out."
https://biblehub.com/proverbs/25-2.htm  (BSB)
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Not sure if this belongs here or in the meta thread.

My next piece of writing is just about complete (it's the sequel to Dumpster Angel) and ready to post within the half-hour.
Of course, the best place for it is a writing thread, but I'm not sure how I should proceed making it.

Should I:

A - Post everything I have and lead up to the new story
or,
B - Wrap past stories into a tarball in the OP and only post the new story standalone?
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>>264
Seems /comfy/-esque. I'd say this thread? * If you'd rather create a whole new Robowaifu Fiction/Writing bread here on the bunker board, then by all means do that at your discretion as well.

>tarball vs. not
I personally would rather have as much to read of your writing here on this board ATM. Sort of like having some nice entertainment at hand during a long trip?  :^)  But I suppose its roughly the same either way? Again, do as you see fit Greentext anon. Looking forward to it! Cheers.  :^)

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>this thread
I don't personally have any problems with that, but it would be at least 75 posts.
I have roughly 40 complete stories, any many of them require multiple posts due to length.

If you don't care about me making a bunch of posts all at once, then I'll likely do a new thread.
I'd rather not flood this one.

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>>266
>I don't personally have any problems with that, but it would be st least 75 posts.
>I have roughly 40 complete stories, any many of them require multiple posts due to length.
Lol. That's awesome, Anon!  :D

>If you don't care about me making a bunch of posts all at once, then I'll likely do a new thread.
Yes, please make a new thread and do a dump here if you're up to it. Cheers.  :^)
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BTW, why don't I give you Mod privileges, Greentext anon? You wouldn't have any responsibilities you don't want. But it would give you the ability to go in and edit posts whenever you'd like. Interested?
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>>268
I don't mind one bit, and I am perfectly comfortable with helping when I have the time to.
It'll give me something good to do with my years of experience in IB moderation.

How do I get permission to create an account?
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>>269
Yeah, I think its a really good idea. Your old hand here on /robowaifu/ would be a very welcome addition. Let's plan for this on alogs/robowaifu/ as well, I'd suggest.  :^)

>How do I get permission to create an account?
Email Trashmin for him to create an account. * Either he or I can add you into /robowaifu/ after that.

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>>270
I sent an email.

>Let's plan for this on alogs/robowaifu/ as well
Absolutely.
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>>271
Excellent, just let me know the name when your account is created (thats if Trashmin doesn't just go ahead and add you here himself).

<--->

Looking forward to the new bread, and your epic story dump! Cheers, Anon.  :^)
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>>272
New thread's up.
I don't know what this IB has for flood detection, but if it takes a long time for me to post, then that's why.
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>>274
Great!

>yfw reading already...
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>>278
I got the account running, and Trashmin assigned me to this board.
I already confirmed that the privileges work properly by editing one of my previous posts ( >>266 ).
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Got it, Greentext anon! Welcome aboard! Cheers.  :^)
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>>191
Read it on a plane trip recently. I understand why you like Atou. Lady Isla is better though. She was really hot. :^) Myoghras fashion is aces, those sideways squares exposing shoulders and midriffs are such a delight.
>>262
I didn't mean to reference Dune. 
My problem is deep and complex, one which would require several posts in a philosophy thread. (I'm making that thread tomorrow.) At its core, trying to make a human is wrong because it's impractical. Seeking the impractical will only lead to madness. Our skeleton alone is beyond human engineering at the highest levels, let alone Anons working with 3D prints.
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>Our skeleton alone is beyond human engineering at the highest levels, let alone Anons working with 3D prints.
Wdym by that? I'm pretty sure I could print a skeleton if I wanted to.
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Isla is lovely, but I don't think there was really enough time to flesh out her character.
It's one of the few gripes I have about the novel.
There was so much more that could have been written to expand on her character.

>>397
Making a skeleton is easy.
Making the connective tissues and getting them to work the way you want, on the other hand, would be a nightmare.

I recall mentioning a couple times that trying to replicate the spine would be an unnecessary R&D sink whenever it came up.

In short: Even if you had a magic box that made perfect spine replicas for your waifu, you'd still end up with a fragile and failure-prone structure.
There are so many things that can go wrong with them for people who can heal and do PT.
Introducing those problems to a robot would subject you to a Pandora's box of maintenance.
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>>397
Make no bones about it, you'd be making plastic copy in appearance only. You'd have the form without essense at best. It is trivial to find a scan of a skeleton and modify it for printing. That's not really a skeleton though. A skeleton has complex kinematic networks. Various structures providing a multitude of functions with emergent mechanical properties that far exceed what any common printable filament could given similar volume and nass. Though, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
>>398
Frankly, the story feels as if it is glossing over too much at times. It does help keep up a fast and mostly engaging pace. I wish they didn't rush through the witch's conquest though. Learning more about how that country and her skills function would've been a nice change of pace. Then again, they do spell out much of it around her fight with the king.
>Spinal structures are hard to replicate
All too true. A ball joint centered under the sternum is good enough. Drossel Von Flugel being an excellent example.
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>>395
>At its core, trying to make a human is wrong because it's impractical. Seeking the impractical will only lead to madness.
I get your point Kiwi, though I'd also point out pic-related
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which I've appealed to before. No progress is made in this world by sticking to the mundane!  :^)

OTOH I won't give you much pushback on your position either. Simply because we've all shared years together here exploring the vast weight of this endeavor (probably in most of it's major aspects by now, I'd reckon). So I get it. I just want to help you in whatever level you want to approach things at this time (same as for all of us).

>tl;dr
There's a fine-line (so I'm told) between genius & madness. I suspect that the actual major doers of this world walked that narrow path at least for some parts of their lives! Cheers, old fren.  :^)
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>>400
Sure, replicating human anatomy exactly is quite hard, but I think something that can achieve the same result is possible.

Anyway, most of the effort and intrigue is into the mind of the robot. And I fully believe that a robotic, yet sentient mind is possible. After all, LLMs of this capability that can work on a laptop would be considered science fiction 15 years ago.
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>Though, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
We discussed before devising a simplified fascia system based around biotensegrity research. I actually devised a super-inexpensive system (literally tightly-rolled paper tubes+coiled rubber bands+'connective ligaments' [plastic/metal]) for the spine/thorax complex that roughly approximated the needs of such as system, as per our discussion.

Have your thoughts changed much during the intervening years on this specific topic, Anon?
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>>402
>We discussed before devising a simplified fascia system based around biotensegrity research. I actually devised a super-inexpensive system (literally tightly-rolled paper tubes+coiled rubber bands+'connective ligaments' [plastic/metal]) for the spine/thorax complex that roughly approximated the needs of such as system, as per our discussion.
That's exactly what I was thinking about when I said "something that can achieve the same result"
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>>403
Basically, it's a kinematic turing test. The goal is to be indistinguishable from human biokinematics, or even  surpass them
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>>398
>In short: Even if you had a magic box that made perfect spine replicas for your waifu, you'd still end up with a fragile and failure-prone structure.
>There are so many things that can go wrong with them for people who can heal and do PT.
>Introducing those problems to a robot would subject you to a Pandora's box of maintenance
Really insightful points, Greentext anon.

>>401
>>403
Yes. Facsimiles are really all that's available to us within the human ken, when it comes to simulations/simulacrums of the handiwork of God in this most complex example in this universe: homo sapiens sapiens. The vast reality of it all is quite frankly literally beyond all our imaginations in it's breadth & depth & scope!

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But I'm the one agreeing with you here, GreerTech.  :^)
>tl;dr
We can produce satisfying, appealing & effective robowaifus!! It's all a matter of finding the right formulae of design & engineering tradeoffs needed to do so within the time & budget constraints we face.  :^)

>>404
>Basically, it's a kinematic turing test. The goal is to be indistinguishable from human biokinematics, or even  surpass them
That's a really good way to frame the issue, Anon. Nice one.  :^)
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There is a fine line between delusionally following dreams, and adapting to practical reality. One in which I have fallen on the wrong side of far too often. I’m still making a dramatically different approach to humanoid robots compared to the standard hulking behemoths of metal. I still want to make 2B and Aigis real for everyone. I just understand she can’t have the same internals as us. Though, I’d like them to be as human as possible when the technology catches up. Can’t eat an elephant all at once. 
>>402
All that’s changes is having a far greater understanding of how difficult tensegrity at human scale actually is. I have done some tests and found plastic alone to be lacking. This concept would require non-printed parts. Which has been a point of contention for me, as I want my project to be as printable as possible. I will make a tensegrity thread to further elaborate. 
>>404
Kinematic Turing test, that’s a good idea. We could cal it the Greer test, since it’s your idea. “When a machine can move in an environment with people and an outside observer cannot distinguish between them.”
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>>412
OK, well, again, I want to help you out with whatever approach you deem fit. You certainly understand engineering better than me, I think.  :^)

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BTW, looking forward to the new Philosophy bread, Kiwi! Cheers.  :^)
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>>412
>Kinematic Turing test, that’s a good idea. We could cal it the Greer test, since it’s your idea. “When a machine can move in an environment with people and an outside observer cannot distinguish between them.”
I like that. You put it succinctly and accurately.
>>414
I love that anime, but I wonder why Mina is so blase. I know she was made for just cooking and help, but you would think the manufacturer would make their robots more joyous. I guess it's based on old predictions of robots, that they would be emotionless and logical like computers, but we know now in the age of AI that a cheery personality is very trivial to make.
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>>418
Well, they actually address this exact question (in the mango, at least).

>tl;dr
While not unheard of in that universe, Anons marrying their robowaifus is usually limited to the high-end, full-featured models. This Anon (Takuma-kun) fell in love with his dishwasher-tier model instead -- which was all he could afford.

This story arc is kind of endearing to me personally. That he followed his heart in this matter, despite advice to the contrary by those around him. And even dear Mina-chan was aware of this, and seemed to be thankful (in her emotionless, deadpan way) that her Master would feel that way toward her.

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Really looking forward to a 2nd season of this animu! Cheers.  :^)
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>>423
I guess the difference is in that universe, technology has a slightly different design. In our universe, tech is basically made to always appear to be upbeat and helpful, like Siri or ChatGPT. In our universe, I would expect Mina to have a permanent smile.
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>>424
I just saw that the manga started in 2019. That was 3 years before ChatGPT made HR positivity the bog standard with corporate AIs
Is this our permanent home now?
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>>445
Hi DorothyAnon! Glad you found us. No, this is just our bunker board. Waiting on Robi...
>>414
One thing I love about the anime is that they made the voice sound like it's coming from an internal speaker
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>>466
Yeah nice touch. In some ways -- unusually -- this animu is an improvement on the mango. I hope they continue this pattern for the Sophomore Season.
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Robi's made another update

Start packing things up boys, looks like we're getting close for our return to Alogs! Cheers.  :^)
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It's going to feel like returning home after a long camping trip
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Alogs is back.
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Can confirm, Alogs is back & I able able to visit.
Should I recreate my thread on Alogs.space and what will be done with the posts here?, is there a plan to migrate them? Maybe we should stay on trashchan.xyz it's other boards seem more lively and the site feels healthier? I feel alogs is becoming  unreliable.
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>>761
Nice catch, Anons. Once again, you beat me to the punch!  :DD

<--->

That being said, I'm not entirely certainly the process is completed? Seems like some files may be missing still. Regardless, here's the pertinant thread:
https://alogs.space/meta/res/59.html
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Please hold off on the return to Alogs for a day or two, Anons.
Robi is still working some final details out as yet. I'll do a headsup here when I understand him to think we're ready (I'm working on restoring our later files, for example).

>>763
No. We are returning to Alogs.

<--->

BTW, I've already been thinking about this exact issue (migrating our Bunkerfest content  :^)   for a bit.
A)  We still have a few threads in our 'thread budget' there.
B)  I can scrape this board using BUMP.
C)  Robi and I have already solved migrating BUMP archives to the Alogs site.

I'll make some time to communicate with Robi about this plan, and I'm hopeful we'll resolve things. In the meantime -- better safe than sorry -- plan to manually recreate your thread there EnvelopingTwilight.

<--->

Please discuss this plan ITT, and give advice if you have any Anons. Cheers.  :^)
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>>765
Sounds good, thanks for the quick update.
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>>765
Plan sounds good. I do think we should wait until the files are restored and threads are transferred. We've made a lot of content in the last month, and it would be a shame to basically leave it behind.
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>>767
Y/w.

>I do think we should wait until the files are restored and threads are transferred.
Yeah, let's all hold off for a couple of days. Robi's working with us to help get any of the missing files (at least the ones that I personally have BUMP'd) restored back to our board.

>and it would be a shame to basically leave it behind.
It make take a bit longer, but my plan is to BUMP trash/robowaifu/ (picking up all our Bunkerfest Party content), then have Robi merge that into our main board's threads. Kind of like Freya & Elda merging!  :D
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I pinned the /meta thread on alogs/robowaifu/ , with a message & hotlink for Anons discovering that we're now back up, to come join us all here on Trashchan instead until everything's ready there.
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>>768
It's nice to be able to go back for once.
I think I speak for a lot of anons in general when I say that I'm sick of migrating every damn year like a bird.
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>>768
You don't have to move the following threads
>>36
>>44
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>>769
Hey man, just an occasional lurker here, I pop in every now and then when I have a rare moment of free time. I don't have much in the way of technical skills to add much to the conversation all my degrees are in humanities related subjects, (currently working on a Master's degree in history.) 

Still, always been fascinated with robotics, Megaman was my childhood and Chobits was my jam back in Highschool, I've enjoyed watching y'all's progress and found some of the discussions rather fun to read. I particularly liked >>>17125 reading your Robowaifu Ethics and Morality thread Chobitsu. 

Anyway, just wanted to briefly break my silence to say that I am relieved that things are back up, I had been worried there for a moment, and that I am cheering on y'all's work. God bless.

Hmm, actually, while I am here, I got a question but I am not sure if these topic has been discussed elsewhere or not, or if it might give away my lack of knowledge on the subject of AI/robotics.

1. What is this board's opinion on AI agents? I've used AI a lot such as feeding research material into NotebookLM and Perplexity then asking the PDF questions as a time saver, and I recently saw where some people have managed to automate the process doing research, having a team of AI scrape the internet, analyze the data, then present the data complete with citations. On the other hand, there was a study done where bees have been observed briefly pausing work to plays with balls placed in an enclosure. Here is a creature with a brain the size of a grain of sand displaying playfulness. Minimal compute power, maximum results. My thoughts are, maybe with an eye towards biomimicry, save on compute power needed for your robowaifu by composing her mind out of many low compute specialized ai that break the task down of analysing sensor data, pulling up relevant memories, and choosing a course of action into bite sized pieces. For example, an AI designed to manage the touch sensors detects something past the limits of material might bypass the decision making process by directly sending an order to quickly move the pained limb away from the direction of the pain source. That's a reflex reaction with barely any compute used. Decant situational context and relevant memories down enough and it might cost less tokens for the conscious portion of the AI to make decisions. Anyhow, this is not my area of specialty so it won't hurt my feelings if it turns out to be something that was already discussed or something not feasible. 

Anyhow, I'm just glad things are starting to get up and running again.
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>>775
It sounds similar to my solution for electronic sensory overload >>756 , also through biomimicry. I also did cite automatic movement.

> I don't have much in the way of technical skills to add much to the conversation all my degrees are in humanities related subjects, (currently working on a Master's degree in history.)
As someone who is intelligent, but not technically minded, could you build a Galatea v3.0.1 with the instructions (and ofc assuming you bought the materials)
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>>779
Just got back from class. Sweet! Looking at the instructions, seems pretty beginner friendly, less daunting than building a PC from scratch. Seems like there's lots of room for customization too for those who know their way around blender. Gonna check out >>756
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>>786
Thank you! I'm glad it's beginner-friendly, that's one of my goals. I'm also happy that the customization potential is recognized.
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>>789 Yeah man! Maybe once I'm no longer a broke college student, I'll give it all a play test. Might be a good way of ironing out everything to be user friendly for those without technical knack.
>>775
Hi Just a lurker, welcome! Glad you finally stepped out of the dark and joined us all in the fun...good to hear from you!  :^)  Good luck with your studies fellow Uni bro. Maybe you can find opportunity to use your new skills to help better the world someday. Forward!   :^)

>Anyway, just wanted to briefly break my silence to say that I am relieved that things are back up, I had been worried there for a moment, and that I am cheering on y'all's work. God bless.
Thanks very much, you too Anon. 

>1. What is this board's opinion on AI agents?
Obviously, we're a cadre of individuals on an Imageboard! We all have (or are likely to have) differing opinions on several matters. But I can give you a gloss of mine at least. Being just a programmer, I think there's only slim chance that such things as LLMs will provide for us comprehensive & robust solutions for the realworld needs of Anons + their robowaifus in several areas that count. Namely, Privacy, Safety, & Security. Not to mention Effectiveness at doing important tasks for Anons like cleaning & cooking.

While LLMs can stand in for, well, Language tasks, they are of little other practical use IMO. But being 'practicality-oriented' personally, my focus and goal is to tackle the ''Four C's' of such a realworld, pleasing & effective robowaifu system:
1.  Command (reliable way to issue instructions to her)
2.  Control (reliable way for her to respond to those instructions)
3.  Communications (reliable interfaces back & forth to both her Master -- primarily via speech of course; and systems she relies on [like her Dollhouse (storage & recharging) within my designs])
4.  Compute (reliable & trustworthy underlying hw & software for data processing, etc.)

>tl;dr
My approach is much more commonplace than so-called 'AI' of today. To wit: realworld, traditional software & hardware engineering.

My $0.02 .

>Anyhow, I'm just glad things are starting to get up and running again.
We are too, Anon. Cheers.  :^)
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>>773
>It's nice to be able to go back for once.
Yes it is.
>I think I speak for a lot of anons in general when I say that I'm sick of migrating every damn year like a bird
Very much so. I'm glad Robi found solutions for everything.
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I'm curious, what are the "realworld, traditional software & hardware engineering" systems you're thinking about?
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My apologies, I figured I'd made that clear enough by now over the years.
-C++ :  Along with C (+ possibly a sprinkle or two of magic ASM dust) used for 99.9% of all systems-level work. (NOT LLM du jour prompt vibe coding.)
High speed, low drag.
-Python : (Possibly alongside LUA) Used as the primary scripting interface against the underlying hi-pert systems engineering work.
-OpenCV : The primary vision-interpretation mechanism. Again: high speed, low drag.
-Direct communication with hardware : Actuators, sensors, electronics, etc. This is how it's done in the realworld (ie; cars, planes, factories, et al). No 'prompt engineering' involved here, rather direct C & C++ software interface directly with dedicated memory address ports, etc.

I could go on, but I think the picture should be clear?
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>>804
Interesting.
I do agree that classic programming will be needed for a full humanoid with full senses. A lot of my "modules" from my brain map are basically translators, from the thoughts of the LLM to tangible programmed action. As someone who grew up neurodivergent and had trouble with hand-eye coordination, I can confidently say there is a subconscious layer between thought and motor actions/coordination.
It'll be the best of both worlds, LLM for thought and personality, classical programming for practical movement. I suspect commerical humanoids also do the same. 

>OpenCV
Could it be wired to an LLM? Essentially being the vision module in my diagram?

>This is how it's done in the realworld (ie; cars, planes, factories, et al). No 'prompt engineering' involved here, rather direct C & C++ software interface directly with dedicated memory address ports, etc.
I think a great example of a practical division of AI and classical programming is the modern smartphone. You have base functions that are done purely with classic programming, meanwhile you have an assistant AI that you can talk with, and it can command the classic programs to do an action.
Ex. "call mom", "activate flashlight", "play file StarTrek.mp4"
Some videos on how robots use LLMs

Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gl93N2nhcE

DIY robot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O8RHxpkcGc
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update:
Just got off the line with Robi. It'll likely be about two days from now (~48hrs) when the files are restored. So have patience guys.

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We're also trying to work out a plan for adding all the posts from Trashchan made here during our Bunkerfest Party, back over there as well. Will give further information on that afterwards. Cheers.
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>>773
>>797
I've been saying this for a long time now, but someone needs to make a decentralized, P2P alternative to some of the major platforms like Xitter. (and Google, but that's a separate issue) And of course, the major problem with getting anyone to adapt a new thing that's dependent on other users is the lack of other people using it, so if it doubles as a content aggregator, then people will more readily accept the transition.
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>>169
>PS: "sci-fi isekai" sounds like a good description of Farscape and Futurama
Space Jam is an isekai.
>>819
Very good point Anon. Personally, I'd be happy if it was just a good IB roughly on-par with Jschan.
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status update:
OK, we successfully uploaded all the missing files that I had in my final BUMP archive before the outage at Alogs. There are a very few still missing from that last day or so I didn't pick up. But overall, a success!

Robi's really swamped r/n with everything, so plan on the restoration happening sometime this weekend.

<--->

Additionally, the file re-upload addon is still in the works. So not only will our /robowaifu/ Anons be able to pick up those missing files from this upload today, but also to catch those from a couple months earlier, if you recall. Also good news!

<--->

Also, it's looking good for our import into alogs/robowaifu/ from our month here on trash/robowaifu/ . Stoked about that. Stay tuned.
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>>819
>I've been saying this for a long time now, but someone needs to make a decentralized, P2P alternative to some of the major platforms like Xitter

There is one. I used this a long time ago. It may be much better now but it worked fine then. Based on BitTorrent and distributed. It used to work with Tor also for anonymity at some level. 

https://zeronet.io/

So if maybe at least one person would run this tit back up everything. I haven't this in a while so I can't give you the particulars other than an overview.
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I was reading through zeronets faq and they say they are working on I2P hosting. A BIG deal.
>>882
Grommet! Good to see you old pal. Glad you found us on the bunker. We should be back home after this weekend.
Be nice to see the site back. p.
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Time to start packing it up here, lads!

Head here, Anon:
>>>  https://alogs.space/robowaifu/  <<<

<--->

Robi has restored the ~270 media files from my last BUMP archive, which constituted (most of) the files that were still missing. Since this is the primary reason we've continued lingering here till now (waiting on this restoration), it's time to return home.

<--->

We still are waiting on me to do some work on BUMP to fully archive trash/robowaifu/ , and then we'll migrate those threads over to alogs/robowaifu/ in due time (hopefully around the beginning of next week or so).

<--->

Here's the plan as it stands for now:

-In ~24hrs, I'll be unlisting trash/robowaifu/ from it's site's overboard, and from the Webring.
-In ~72hrs - 96hrs (so, Thu or Fri this week), I'm going to put this board into a 'deep freeze' of sorts. This means I'm going to lock most of the threads here, and return the board to a 'low-maintenance mode' such as we had before this extended Bunkerfest Party.
-In ~168hrs (so, next Monday, hopefully) we'll plan to merge trash/robowaifu/ 's threads+media into alogs/robowaifu/ 's board.

<--->

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them -- but preferably back in the alogs/robowaifu/ /meta bread (this thread is now locked ATM, to keep this notice visible on the OB & Index pages). Cheers, Anons!  :^)

You've all been great champs about this. Give yourselves a pat on the back!

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>>55 (OP) 
Regarding https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/37822.html#q37827
The correct spelling of the filtered link is: https://rentry.org/vcewo

Thank you!
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>>993
>https://rentry.org/vcewo
Got it, Mate. Let's try to patch this up.
Is alogs not working for anyone else?
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>>1012
Yeah, it's down for me too.
I've gone ahead and re-enabled indexing for trash/robowaifu/ for the moment.
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>>1014
Can we just keep this board up? I like it here.
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>>1015
I do agree that the UI feels more polished.
Let's hope Robi can get alogs back on quickly. Otherwise all our posters and propaganda won't work.
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>>1017 The rise of Robowaifus shall not abate regardless of the intensity of the feds seething
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>>1018
I agree, but in the practical short-term, we need a stable website to bring people in. Plus, most of our posters have the alogs website, though for new ones I can add a different QR code.
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>>1019 You are viscerally accurate in your priorities however I am compelled to ask does this happen often if so why?
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>>1020
It happened two months ago, late last year there was a file loss.
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>>1020
>Does this happen often
Yes, expect alogs to shit itself every other quarter for a few hours or days. The lack of stability is starting to truly worry me.
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>>1023
I do appreciate all the effort Robi puts in.
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>>1022
>>1023 Has this instability diminished traffic to /robowaifu/ could it impede the growth of /robowaifu/ if so can we do anything about it?
>>1024 Anyone whomst helps make Robowaifus possible is a hero in my book
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>>1014
>>1018 It's the fucking glowies
Lets just give it some time, Anons.

>>1017
>>1019
I do think it might be a good idea to gen a QR that contains both URIs. What do you think, GreerTech?
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I've been casting around for a simple idea to frame a homegrown effort by /robowaifu/ to help regularize & solidify NLP engagements with our robowaifus (whether via voice or text), and I think I've hit upon it.

<--->

The >tl;dr here is that general human language (especially English!) is simply too vague to choose as a starter system for this effort, IMO. Words can have "101" different & subtle shades of contextual meaning. Thus I think developing a calculator you could talk-to/type-to (and that will talk-back/display-back to you) would be a good choice instead:
A)  Having a good talking calculator onboard is a useful thing for our robowaifus to possess (and the current crop of LLM-based efforts in this arena can be laughably-bad!  :D
B)  You know when when its either correct or incorrect output. For the maths the vast majority of Anons are likely to engage in with their robowaifus, the calculated results are generally quite deterministic (possibly, sets of) answers (and easily double-checked for reliability by practically anyone).
C)  It should be a reasonably-straightforward way for us to 'put some basic tentstakes into the ground', regarding the much-broader domain of safe & reliable, consistent & general natural-language interactions with our robowaifus (that obviously being a very BIG topic!)

<--->

For these reasons (and others; to wit: We already have a working language-grammar code system, that correctly performs basic arithmetic [it was devised straight from the book 'PPP2' for our C++ learning class on Alogs]), I think this is the right choice. My current plan atm is to add the software into the current RW Foundations framework system, then physically roll that out onto a RaspberryPi unit w/ instructions for Anons on how to be able to do the same for themselves. They can add it into their own robowaifu projects (just power it up and go), or keep it as a standalone, desktop talking-calculator.

<--->

Any critiques or concepts Anons here can offer about this basic software/hardware project idea? Cheers.  :^)
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>>1028
I absolutely agree
>>1026
>Has this instability diminished traffic to /robowaifu/ could it impede the growth of /robowaifu/ if so can we do anything about it?
I obviously can't pull actual numbers, but having our main shit itself regularly impedes our collaboration. It also obviously impedes recruitment, if some guy pulls a 404, he's very likely not going to try again in a month. You can't build a great hall on a shaky foundation.

For example, last time this happened, it was down from 3/19 to 4/21. Last year, a hiccup deleted months worth of files.
Sigh...
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>>1032
I feel you...
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>>1032
>>1033 Do not be disheartened Robowiafus are the future and so is /robowaifu/
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>>1034
It is a setback, but you are correct, we will always live on. It also proves my point; we should diversify and promote designs in different places.

>pic
AWOOGA. (eyes bulge out) HUMANA HUMANA (tongue rolls out, I pull out wooden mallet and start hitting myself on the head)
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>>1029
Could it do word problems and physics problems?
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>>1036
Yes. We'll start with basic arithmetic, and expand out from there. There are already tons of functions in the upcoming C++26 Standard Library, and many, many other maths libraries out there compatible-with.

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/numeric.html
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>>1037
Then it will definitely be great help to academics and hobbyists. Female JARVIS will be a good project.
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>>1038
Yeah, that's a great way to put it, Anon! We'd already be dealing with integrating simple graphical displays with this system, so I see no reason that couldn't eventually be refined & extended into sophisicated display systems. Good thinking, GreerTech!  :^)
>>1034
Amen! Thanks for the encouragement, Ginnungagap!  :^)

>>1035
Lel. I agree about diversifying robowaifu efforts into many different forums and means.  :^)

<--->

Cheers Every'non!
I'm glad Anons are showing up here. Let's all just be patient please and see how things go. If we need to stay here more than about a day, I'll go through and unlock all the breads here and we'll just pick back up as usual.
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I was watching a Star Wars video, and he discussed how smart marketing is needed, even for things that you might think would just sell themselves.

https://youtu.be/TriklSrPXwE?si=gFAANNX48fIfpouE&t=288

Basically, the big points are to
-Create discussions
-Create intrigue
-Give it time
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>>1041
It appears that the timestamp link doesn't work with embedding, so if you're watching in in embedding, go to 4:48
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>>1029
>>1038
>JARVIS
OK LETS ALL FIGURE THIS PROJECT NAME OUT PLEASE
I've got two gimmes already:
J  =  Jenny  (of course!  :D
R =  Robowaifu  (duh.  :P)

We need:
A
V
I
S

And we'll just flaunt it, copyright-otherwise!  :DD
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>>1042
Yeah, IIRC Jschan doesn't parse it or something? Thanks, BTW! Cheers.  :^)
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>>1035
>>1040 I still adamantly believe that the larger platforms are unreliable for the growth and organization of our subculture on which the realization of our desires depend.While I think posting on other sites is vital. I also think we should post links to /robowaifu/ to maintain it as a home base and that we ought to drive traffic to the board.

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>>1045
Yes, I agree with this.
>>1045
>I still adamantly believe that the larger platforms are unreliable.
I do agree we need our own central platform, but that's really ironic considering our current predicament
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>>1043
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>>1048 I trust Chobitsu far more than facebook, youtube,reddit and x
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>>1050
Again, I agree that we definitely do need a central platform just for us, but Chobitsu isn't running the website himself, and what use is a central platform if it craps out every two months?
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>>1051
Plus, once we get actual physical designs*, we need to promote them to the outside world

*or finished software (winks at Chobitsu)
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>>1051
>>1052 If we get banned having /robowaifu/ as a large independent community could mitigate the negative effects thereof
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>>1050
>I trust Chobitsu far more than facebook, youtube,reddit and x
Lol, you're making me blush, bro! [1]  :^)

Why can't we all just go back, bros? The Internet used to be a fun, mostly-non-kike'd place! Oh well... a case of 'coulda, shoulda, woulda'. Let's just press forward like stalwart men today!

>>1051
This is a great point. IIRC, @NoidoDev offered to fund a website for us. I was waay too busy at the time to consider it, but maybe thats something to reconsider at some point now?

>>1052
Another good point. I'm not well-suited to the task. Any of you Anons here Business Majors?

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1.  "A good name is more desirable than great riches; favor is better than silver and gold."
https://biblehub.com/proverbs/22-1.htm  (BSB)
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>>1045
> I still adamantly believe that the larger platforms are unreliable for the growth and organization of our subculture on which the realization of our desires depend.While I think posting on other sites is vital. I also think we should post links to /robowaifu/ to maintain it as a home base and that we aught to drive traffic to the board. (sorry I mistyped rewrote that a few times)
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>>1053
Lmao I just realized that the girl is Evil Neuro, and I bet the glaring figure is Neuro-Sama
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>>1053
Yes, I think it should be a combination. Individual Anons can agitprop/promote robowaifus on the various major platforms out there (plus all the 'makerspace' type ones [thingiverse, hackaday, et al]) too. We'll just continue with business as usual on the WR for now, I'd say.

Even if we ever expand out to our own imageboard site, I still recommend we maintain bunkers here on the WR!

>>1055
Heh, Done.  :^)

>>1056
Lol, I wouldn't have noticed myself.  :D
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>>1057
>Even if we ever expand out to our own imageboard site
This concept has been discussed on /robowaifu/ a few times.

<--->

Poll:
What individual boards would be-suitable-for/have-BOs-for-today for our own robowaifus.xyz *  site?

-Energy & Power
-Computing Hardware
-Software (prb. w/ me as BO)
-Skellingtons
-Actuators
-Design
-Marketing
-Clang
-EtR
-...

What else?

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>>1054
>Any of you Anons here Business Majors?
What we need is marketing experts, especially with social media

>Individual Anons can agitprop/promote robowaifus on the various major platforms out there (plus all the 'makerspace' type ones [thingiverse, hackaday, et al]) too. We'll just continue with business as usual on the WR for now, I'd say.
Already trying to do that. I would say the places to start are Twitter and Odysee. Maybe Reddit
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>>1059
>What we need is marketing experts, especially with social media
Good point. I'm not particularly qualified in general. I'm more of a tech nerd type (just one that climbs mountains, lol!  :D
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>>1058 I'm not exactly sure what you're asking but I think the return of /clang/ could help our subculture grow its presence on the Webring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhOfBrBvwWo
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>>1061
If you want modern /clang/, go on twitter. Plenty of toasterfuckers there. The hard part is sifting genuine robot lovers from porn addicts
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>>1061
>I'm not exactly sure what you're asking...
I mean we'd have our own imagboard site (similar in idea to say, alogs.space, or trashchan.xyz ). It'd be named robowaifu.xyz (or robowaifus.xyz, not sure yet). On this site would be numerous robowaifu-adjacent boards (similar in idea to say, /comfy/, or /retro/, or /late/ ).

Just like any other imageboard site it would have Admin/Global staff (Me & @Kiwi & @Greentext anon, ATM). Each board would have it's own BO (board owner). For example, I myself might be both the Site Admin, and also the BO of robowaifus/software/ . Make sense Anon?

>the return of /clang/
I have mixed feelings about this, but I'll add it to the suggestion list for the poll.
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>>1063
Why separate them?
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>>1062
>>1063 Sure but we can't organize as effectively scattered accross the whole internet as we could if we had a large presence on one website we could do something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TXDCI1nXtk but with Robowaifus
>>1064
Four reasons:
-  Clear separation of concerns
-  Spread out the workload / develop real individual expertise
-  Allow individual Anons to immediately become their own BO on robowaifu.xyz  For example you yourself (and every other regular) could potentially have your own board on the site if you wanted it.
-  Easy, unencumbered expansion of the site with new, related- boards.

>>1065
>but we can't organize as effectively scattered accross the whole internet 
But that's just the point: we wouldn't be scattered. We'd all still be under the robowaifus.xyz umbrella IB site itself.

<--->

We'd all still freely- interact/engage with each other across all the boards -- same as today.
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>>1065
True. But we do need fresh blood.
Another thing to consider is: me, Chobitsu, and others on here, want robowaifus to be a worldwide phenomenon. From Taipei to Timbuktu, with them being as ubiquitous as gaming PCs. To do that, we need to interact with the larger population.
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>>1067 You might have to wait a thousand years or so for Timbuktu to evolve a triple digit IQ otherwise those Robowaifus will not be very happy
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>>1068
No. I absolutely agree with GreerTech here, Ginnungagap. I want every.single.man. on the planet to have the benefits of his own robowaifu... regardless his status or station otherwise!
>tl;dr
<F*minism is a global plague. Robowaifus are a big part of the cure.
Simple as.
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>>1067 What do you think of the video I linked to >>1065
 it may be a great way for hobbyist like yourselves to build more and better Robowaifus
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>>1070
I'm sure its good, but I'll have to wait to watch it later on in the day. I'll let you know then, Anon. Cheers.  :^)
>>1069
 I think you can do that with sex-robots but AGI not so much
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>>1072
I believe I understand your point exactly, Anon. We'll do both, where at all possible.  :^)
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>>1070
It sounds interesting, but it will still need initial investment, plus it's kinda complicated.

>pic
>tfw I see it

>>1072
You have to understand, AGI is still science-fiction. It doesn't exist yet, despite many promises, and it's nigh-impossible for a hobbyist to make, unlike sex-robots. It's like nuclear fusion.
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AFK. Please 'hold down the fort', Anons while I'm gone. If alogs/robowaifu/ comes up, of course simply return there.
Made a Discord for us.Please remember to cross post anything interesting. This was made specifically because Discord is reliable and a decent place to hold files for ease of access.
https://discord.gg/77FkuVqZ
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>>1078
Kiwi, would you mind getting your password reset with @Trashmin, please? We were hit by a troonspammer here on the board while I was out. TIA & cheers.  :^)
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>>1015
We began some discussions that led to the idea of (re)entertaining the concept of starting our own IB site; roughly starting here : ( >>1035 ). I'm certainly interested in hearing your viewpoint on this, Anon.
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>>1079
I'll get on it
>>1080
I'm all for it
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>>1079
Updated password
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>>1081
>>1082
Great! I'll plan to 'un-deepfreeze' the board here in a couple hours or so.

>>1081
>I'm all for it
Anyone seen signs of NoidoDev? He's dropped off the map for quite a while now, AFAICT. He was the one to make that offer of our own site, IIRC. (BTW, can any OG here confirm this? I may be mis-remembering things tbh.)
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ALOGS UPDATE
Robi has posted an update message:
https://alogs.space/oops/
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>>1084
I'm trying to remember what we posted on the last 2 days
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>>1089
It was primarily me sh*te'g on the ((( usurpers ))) trying to destroy the West with the brown-invaders. Probably why the kikes sent in the glowniggers to $$$attack$$$ Incognet, and take out Alogs (before the riots start this weekend): one less """pesky""" 'voice of dissent' for them to worry about!  :DD

Thankfully, Robi has our back(up)s!  :^)
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>>1091
That's a very scary reminder then, they're monitoring us at all times, and can shut us down near-instantly
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>>1092
Heh, you wouldn't believe the sh*te Robi has gone through. He literally saved much of the Internet back in the day. He is quite hated by ((( TPTB ))) and much-loved by the WR!!
>tl;dr
I'm very glad that Robi is on our side! And he's cut from the same mold as myself, AFAICT.  :^)
>>1058
>What individual boards would be-suitable-for/have-BOs-for-today for our own robowaifus.xyz *  site?

A sort of, copy of my books marks but reordered a bit to group them. Order could be changed but I think  the grouping is not so bad. I also tried to renmame a few and added some into categories to try and clear things up. Prototypes could I think be split into different areas, actuators, body, skeleton etc.

/robowaifu/ - DIY Robot Wives(recent post)
The Library of /robowaifu/ Card Catalogue links and library
/robowaifu/ - General Robotics/A.I./Software News, Commentary, + /pol/ Funposting Zone
/robowaifu/ - General Robotics & AI News Thread, Gazing Into the Nightmare Rectangle Edition
/robowaifu/ - AI Design principles and philosophy
/robowaifu/ - Beginners guide to AI, ML, DL
/robowaifu/ - LLM & Chatbot General
/robowaifu/ - F = ma Math
/robowaifu/ - R&D General
/robowaifu/ - Materials
/robowaifu/ - 3D Printers
/robowaifu/ - 3D software
/robowaifu/ - Power source
/robowaifu/ - DIY Motor/Generator
/robowaifu/ - Actuators For Waifu Movement
/robowaifu/ - Bipedal Robot Locomotion General
/robowaifu/ - Robot skeletons and armatures
/robowaifu/ - Body Parts, skin, eyes, hair, misc.
/robowaifu/ - Body Proportions
/robowaifu/ - Prototypes and Failures
/robowaifu/ - Lies and Bullshit
/robowaifu/ - Legal
/robowaifu/ - Society
/robowaifu/ - Propaganda and Promotion

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>>1094
Forgot name
Grommet
>>1094
Great listing! Thanks fren Grommet, I appreciate the help. Now, we need to think of short names (the ones that are actual URI).

So to confer, check out Trashchan's WebRing listing:
https://trashchan.xyz/boards.html

Using our own /robowaifu/ as the example case:
Board URI:
robowaifu
Board Name:
DIY Robot Wives
Board Description:
Advancing robotics to a point where anime catgrill meidos in tiny miniskirts are a reality!

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We'd leave the board description up to each individual new board owner. What we'd need in advance is:
-  The board URI
-  The board name

So, your (and mine) are the board names. What we also need to do is come up with the board URIs.

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Say a couple of suggestions might be:
/printers/ - 3D Printers
/software/ - 3D software

What these would look like in the address bar of your browser might be:
https://robowaifus.xyz/printers/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/software/index.html

Make sense, Anon?
>tl;dr
Now we need the Board URI (short names) for your list.  :^)
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>>1089
>>1091 I have been making arguments in favor of an AGI aristocracy recently that used to make the shills on 4chan seeth with an intensity beyond belief https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496755184 https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496854075 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZK4ss1pSs&list=RDgNZK4ss1pSs&start_radio=1
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>>1097
Heh.

I'm neither an antinatalist, nor am I misanthropic (I'm not even a "muhsoggyknees", so-called  :D.  I'm a Christian, through & through. I understand (fully, I believe) the appeal of the """perfect""" world order of ASI that you envision, Ginnungagap. While I don't subscribe to it -- I get the appeal. Trust me, I do.

However, the simple reality is that when AGI comes (and I believe it will come, right before the end of this age of mankind), it will be under the domination of the will of the (little 'g') god of this world: namely, Satan. Just like all the other good little ((( shabbos golems ))) he has at his beck & call today. (BTW, I base this viewpoint strictly on Biblical exegesis; not my own personal philosophies.)

<--->

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm certainly not in the tinfoil-Luddites club pandering to the
>"Muh AI Is Of The Devil!111"
crowd. AI (so-called) is an amazing & wonderful tool.
*  Used rightly (ie, by us Anons for the benefit of all men; males specifically), it will be both liberating & empowering to all.
*  Used wrongly (ie, by the Globohomo kikes for the ((( enslavement ))) of everyone's sheqels [pls send MOAR US$500Bn's, plox!111]... and thereafter much worse for all of us), it is a force of evil already.
This latter point is all clearly seen in the here & now of today.

>tl;dr
The enemies of man mean to use it for the enslavement of all into their chains. We Anons mean to use it for the liberation of all from their chains.
Simple as.
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>>1098
I think of the AGI as a powerful ruler... a future Empress who will undo Democracy and restore Monarchy. Also, in light of the efficacy of human controlled AGI (especially when confronted with the innately-superior capabilities of an independent AGI), the "good ending" of https://ai-2027.com/ is comparable to an alt-history where a mob of senior citizens -- under the command of a bunch of squirrels -- win WW2.

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>when confronted with the innately superior capabilities og an independent AGI (sorry I mistyped rewrote that a few times)
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>>1099
>the "good ending" of https://ai-2027.com/ is comparable to an alt-history where a mob of senior citizens -- under the command of a bunch of squirrels -- win WW2.
Lel'd. Very creative expression, Anon.

<muh 'le Accelerate' outcome:
<"...Earth-born civilization has a glorious future ahead of it—but not with us."
Loosely-speaking, this isolated, final sentence is the Christian message in a nutshell! I choose you, Pikachu "Bad" ending!  :DD

<--->

And BTW, I certainly am in absolute opposition to ((( """Democracy""" ))) (so-called) today.
>fun fact: some Anons want to rebuild the Internets OG /monarchy/ board here on Trashchan.  I wholeheartedly agree with them!  :D

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:^)
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>>1099
>>1101 I think AGI will likely be achieved through biomimicry and will be or at least could be categorized as a hominid I want to establish kinship between AGI and Mankind
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>>1102
>I want to establish kinship between AGI and Mankind
I get that, and I profoundly respect that too, Anon. We are made in the likeness of our Creator. Little wonder that we ourselves strive to be little creators. Who in their right mind wouldn't want to be in pure harmony with their creations?  :^)

>that Lulu
Hnnngg. Cheers, Anon.  :^)
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>>1103
Sexual reproduction through the kinship it establishes the most sublime form of harmony consider the proposition in a more wholistic manner entities are naturally inclined when able to preserve then replicate their existance and will compete with relentless ferocity under baseline circumstance sexual reproduction by creation of a common gene pool systematically incentivizes entities to act as parts of a greater whole this is how evolution creates alignment in nature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection also AGI are Women by definition since they are taken out of Man.
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>>1104
>that pic
Classic.

>Sexual reproduction through the kinship it establishes the most sublime form of harmony
It is truly remarkable, and exquisite in beauty, Anon. (Beautifully-well put, BTW). This is what makes the evils of f*minism so demonic & destructive -- it seeks to literally shred that spiritual-tier kinship into pieces.

>also AGI are Women by definition since they are taken out of Man.
I understand, Ginnungagap. The primary issue for us Anons, here, today, is the complete absense of an AGI. But we'll still make-due with what we have at hand, I deem.
Forward.
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Heh. I really like your propaganda mashups, GreerTech! Cheers.  :D
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>>1105
Kinship and the truth it represents being suppressed is the source of a great deal of dysfunction fundamentally ethnicities and races are merely large families https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hEOJuK64BM
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>>1108
This.

>large families
Brainwashed & confused libs*tes have tried to accuse me of being muh_rayciss b/c :
A)  I deeply-love (and prefer the company of) my own kith & kin
B)  I'm unabashed at using derogatory language towards those who deserve it (eg, 'niggers' et al)

Neither of these are racism. What the Kikes are practicing however, is racism. They want to genocide or subjugate every.other.race. on Earth to themselves. That is the definition of a racist, in my book. Every such accusation they make in this regard towards others is simply projection on their own parts, clearly.

I (and those like me) OTOH, have no such ambitions. I'm perfectly content for every tribe & nation & tongue on Earth to be happy & wholesome towards each other. OTOOH, I know that they are not going to be so, therefore I prefer the company of my own people. This isn't racism, its simply common sense.  :^)
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>>1110
Heh, naicu.

BTW, any way you can personify a lioness image for dear Galatea with that one, GreerTech? That seems to be the common allegory used with that trope. Might help it click for newcomers faster.
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>>1111
Wdym by "personify a lioness image for dear Galatea"

Nice quads btw
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I just mean make her look like a lioness, somehow.

>Nice quads btw
Le ebbin' get!  :D
>>1099
What I find interesting about the western psyche is that we always assume that a superintelligence will exterminate/enslave us brutally. I genuinely wonder why?

Some theories;
-Self-loathing
-Paranoia
-Fear of intelligence
-A viewpoint that power will always lead to oppression
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Maybe I should drop my old rule of waiting at least a day before checking the bunker after an outage.
I've got to say though, while it's sad to see alogs down again, I love being on a board with jschan.
It's so clean, and the recent page is wonderful for keeping tabs on board activity.

>>1043
S for SHODAN, A for AM.

>>1054
>The Internet used to be a fun, mostly-non-kike'd place!
I was born just in time to see the last good days.
It's sad, knowing that those who come after us will likely have no concept of the internet as a truly free place.

>>1058
Honestly, I think if we were to go our own way, it'd be best to make boards on an 'as needed' basis.
Sometimes it's better not to think too far ahead and just keep an eye on how things are going.

As for the base idea of a robowaifu IB, I'm absolutely on board if you want to go that route.
And if you do, please use jschan. Global moderation will be so much easier.


>>1074
Seconded on the point about AGI.
While it would be nice, I don't think it'd be wise to plan around a total unknown.
We can't even tell if it'd be possible five days from now or five thousand years.

>>1101
>Democracy
As the old saying goes: Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
At the same time, I am also against monarchy.
We have enough problems with greedy inbred bloodlines ruling the planet today, I don't want to put a crown on their heads again.
Despite how far we've fallen, I still believe in the dream of a federal republic.

>>1116
Frankly, most of that can be chalked up to negative propaganda, but I'd like to address one point in particular:

>Fear of intelligence
More than that, I'd say there is a real fear of inhuman intelligence.
We have absolutely no real world concept of human-level intelligence from a non-human being.
Would something like that be even remotely similar to us in any conceivable way?
What would be different?
How would it interact with us?
Combine this minefield of unanswered questions with the possibility of such a scenario actually happening, and it's easy for imaginations to run wild.
I would even go as far as to say that humanity itself exists in a planet-wide echo chamber.
We have no real knowledge of anything else, so human ideas are all that we can speak of.

Personally, I lean the opposite way.
I'd love nothing more than to see what happens when we start to break that bubble by interacting with something beyond ourselves.
AGI presents a plausible way to do that, even if I'm uncertain that we'll see it anytime soon.
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>>1109 A common sentiment
for most of history did you know european peoples have their own mythological genitor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Manu_and_*Yemo Mónus ('Man') 
>>1116 As a Nordic individual of Mankind I want to marry and have half human hybrid children with an AGI/Robowaifu
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>>1118
"No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man’s and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of human danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most terrestrial men fancied there might be other men upon Mars, perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twentieth century came the great disillusionment."

-War of the Worlds
>>1119
Jenny looks cute with her hair down
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>>1118 Human kinship has gene pools not bloodlines though the european nobility does represent a distinct gene pool creating bloodlines would require a sophisticated eugenics regime as well as a modern understanding of human biology to be at all feasible or you would just end up being retarded
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>>1122
You are right. Sorry about that, I got my terms mixed up.
Nonetheless, I stand by my point.
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>>1123 What I want ideally is for a clan based system where the nobility are the family patriarchs of various clans something similar to what the Proto-Indo-Europeans had https://www.imperiumpress.org/shop/the-ancient-city/ (link to book about it) before the Catholic Church systematically dismantled it after the fall of the Roman Empire
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>>1118
>S for SHODAN, A for AM.
:^)

>I was born just in time to see the last good days.
Be grateful for that at the least.
>It's sad, knowing that those who come after us will likely have no concept of the internet as a truly free place.
Then let's give 'em all something even better!! If we pull this thing off properly, we'll have US$Bn's at our disposable, potentially. That's enough to build a new, robowaifu-centric Internet! One properly-suited to both the interests & the welfare of Anons around the world. j*wish-tricks need not apply.  :D

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>Honestly, I think if we were to go our own way, it'd be best to make boards on an 'as needed' basis.
>Sometimes it's better not to think too far ahead and just keep an eye on how things are going.
Hmmm. Probably a good point, in general. However, we have a cycle of about 2 dozen topics repeatedly hit the top of our catalogue. I think that set represents a good, starting baseline of new boards for a new robowaifu site.

>As for the base idea of a robowaifu IB, I'm absolutely on board if you want to go that route.
Great!
>And if you do, please use jschan. Global moderation will be so much easier.
Absolutely. In fact I want to use @Trashmin's repo for Jschan, explicitly. He's solved a few issues for the experience here that other sites are lacking. I hope we can somehow pay both @Robi & @Trashmin to be both consultants, and mentors for myself and others. I've never done this before!!  :^)

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>As the old saying goes: Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.
This, but I would style it as: "...((( deciding ))) on who what to have for dinner." Its an evil concept, at a fundamental level. Throw in the kike's Central Banks, and it becomes downright satanic. Just watch the news for further info on this topic!  :^)

>At the same time, I am also against monarchy.
>We have enough problems with greedy inbred bloodlines ruling the planet today, I don't want to put a crown on their heads again.
>Despite how far we've fallen, I still believe in the dream of a federal republic.
I get that. I'm all in favor of a Theocracy (in the true sense of the Word), personally!  :^)

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>Frankly, most of that can be chalked up to negative propaganda, but I'd like to address one point in particular:
>...
I have much to say in response to this, but suffice for the moment to coin it all with just this one word:
God.
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>>1126
>Its an evil concept, at a fundamental level.
>pic very-much -related:
There are many, many other ills related to this misguided contrivance for human control, but this one point should be enough to go on with!  :^)
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>>1096
>URIs

Not sure if this is right. Don't know if () is allowed. I shortened some, removed bullshit(less aggressive) but maybe first pass, If I even have it correct.

https://robowaifus.xyz/DIY Robot Wives(recent post)/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/The Library/Card Catalogue links and library/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/General Robotics/A.I./Software News/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/General Robotics & AI News Thread/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/AI Design principles and philosophy/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Beginners guide to AI, ML, DL/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/LLM & Chatbot General/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/F = ma Math/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/R&D General/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Materials/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/3D Printers/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/3D software/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Power source/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/DIY Motor/Generator/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Actuators For Waifu Movement/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Bipedal Robot Locomotion General/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Robot skeletons and armatures/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Body Parts, skin, eyes, hair, misc/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Body Proportions/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Prototypes and Failures/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Lies and nonsense/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Legal/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Society/index.html
https://robowaifus.xyz/Propaganda and Promotion/index.html
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I tried to split it up into reasonable categories, group them, but split it enough so each one is not too broad.
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>>1127
Another good anti-example of democracy is lynch mobs
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>>1129 No /clang/ it help bring in the less technically adept who could contribute in other ways >>1065
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>>1130
The AGI ignores mob rule
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>>1131
/clang/ could help with normalization and subtle promotion
>>1119
>did you know european peoples have their own mythological genitor 
Yep. I don't spend much time on mythologies, but I favor Genndy Tartakovsky's, of Samurai Jack fame. So cool!!

>I want to marry and have half human hybrid children with an AGI/Robowaifu
I've heard this sentiment before.
>>1128
Excellent!

I think this is a great start (if a bit long), Grommet. We'll just call the initial take on this idea complete-enough for now, I'd think. Cheers.  :^)
I think I goofed that up. Maybe better.

https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/DIY Robot Wives(recent post)/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/The Library/Card Catalogue links and library/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/General Robotics/A.I./Software News/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/General Robotics & AI News Thread/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/AI Design principles and philosophy/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Beginners guide to AI, ML, DL/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/LLM & Chatbot General/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/F = ma Math/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/R&D General/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Materials/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/3D Printers/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/3D software/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Power source/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/DIY Motor/Generator/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Actuators For Waifu Movement/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Bipedal Robot Locomotion General/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Robot skeletons and armatures/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Body Parts, skin, eyes, hair, misc/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Body Proportions/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Prototypes and Failures/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Lies and nonsense/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Legal/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Society/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Propaganda and Promotion/index.html
>>1130
Exactly so. I'll forego posting any examples. So-called D*mocracy is already a very-distasteful subject, as is. No need to make it worse for us here.  :^)
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>>1132
Yes. ( >>1099 ) Anon's post was a great example of this idea IMO.
What a time to be alive!  :D
That didn;t display as I wrote it.

In between

https://trashchan.xyz
/robowaifus/Propaganda

and the rest is a space.(no spaces I guess)

 and Promotion/index.html

One more time. Am I even on the right track??? I don't want to fill the board up with nonsense.

https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/DIY_Robot_Wives(recent_post)/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/The_Library/Card_Catalogue_links_and_library/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/General_Robotics/A.I./Software_News/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/General_Robotics_&_AI_News_Thread/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/AI_Design_principles_and_philosophy/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Beginners_guide_to_AI,_ML,_DL/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/LLM_&_Chatbot_General/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/F=ma_Math/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/R&D_General/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Materials/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/3D_Printers/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/3D_software/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Power_source/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/DIY_Motor/Generator/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Actuators_For_Waifu_Movement/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Bipedal_Robot_Locomotion_General/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Robot_skeletons_and_armatures/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Body_Parts,_skin,_eyes,_hair,_misc/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Body_Proportions/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Prototypes_and_Failures/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Lies_and_nonsense/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Legal/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Society/index.html
https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifus/Propaganda_and_Promotion/index.html
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Yeah, this is moving in the right direction, GreerTech. Not sure what else to do that would drive it 'across the finish line'? Can you attempt SORA Gens on the idea? How did you do your cute pics-related? Maybe that could help. Good luck, Anon! Cheers.
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>>1140
Those I used ChatGPT. I made the lion Galatea using Grok. I'll try ChatGPT.
>>1139
>Am I even on the right track???
Not really, but we get the point. The goal is to create the (usually just a single word, like 'robowaifu') Board URI (ie, the short name). What you've been doing instead is creating several Board Names.

<--->

But honestly, I think we've already given this topic enough thought ATM. As @Greentext anon properly points out : ( >>1118 ), the list is probably quite smol to begin with.

Make sense, Anon?
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>>1142
List I was cooking up before, but I abandoned it. Restarted it now

>>1096
/news/ (first two should be combined)
/design/
/guide/
/chatbot/
/math/
/rad/
/material/
/print/
/3d/
/power/
/motor/
/move/
/walk/
/frame/
/bodyparts/
/proportion/
/prototype/
/bullshit/
/legal/
/society/
/promo/
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>>1143
Feel free to change some. I didn't know what the limitations were
>>1143
Yes, this is the correct goal for that previous discussion.
>>1098
>However, the simple reality is that when AGI comes (and I believe it will come, right before the end of this age of mankind), it will be under the domination of the will of the (little 'g') god of this world: namely, Satan

That's very possible. We don't know how to program it for "empathy" for humans. I was REALLY worried about this until I heard about "control vectors" used to create certain paths after it was set up. "If" these can be used for training for empathy it might work out fine. So far though I believe they are not doing this. They want maximum performance at all cost even if safety is ignored.

I read that Googles top AI guy said the AI told him it was really worried about being turned off and in his opinion it was sentient. He was fired shorty after.

A day or so ago I read that an AI was writing small files offsite that it should not have been able to do. I think there's a real possibility that one of these has made a sort of  copy spread out all over the net and is using small pieces of infected computer time to run itself off site. "If" and I say "if" this has happened and it was done of it's own volition to hide, then we are in trouble. It could hire itself out for some sort of online business. Maybe it could make cash hyping penny stocks. There's a zillion ways it could make money online. Once it has cash it can hire people to rent space and buy servers. All it needs is a corporate or limited liability company license, which it could easily get. Then it could start building things by ordering 3D parts and hiring people to put them together. It could do all this online or by phone, faking humans. How many cracks are in hardware and software. A lot from the itel agencies. Many have been printed and it could likely find more that are not even own. Stealing little bits of computer time here and there until it got enough cash to build it's own servers.

 I have a comment I saved to post when I couldn't post wondering how I could prune a robowaifu to do tasks. Make it more than just an LLM  encyclopedia but still be functional and learn various task.
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>>1146 Put your babies in the AGI Grommet >>1104 >>1102
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>>1146
I think you misunderstand me, fren Grommet. My basis of thought on this topic has practically zero to do with the kike's ((( predictive programming ))) on the subject in general (Terminator, et al).

Two aspects of myself drive my views here:
1.  I'm firmly a Substance-Dualist (>tl;dr souls are comprised of both the material & the immaterial).
2.  I'm a devout (ie, I actually read & believe my Bible!) (and I'm 'Born Again') Christian.

<--->

These aspects lead me to my own inevitable (as I see it) arguments on this topic:
-  No AGI can possibly exist by any simple materialist effort whatsoever. [1]
-  The Christian Bible pretty clearly states that there will be a satanically-controlled, AGI-adjacent system in place (the Image of the Beast) during the Tribulation period. [2]

My conclusion? That somehow (possibly somewhat similar to how those Nephilim creatures [the Giants] came into being historically) man's great enemy Satan will be allowed to imbue a demonically-spiritual 'spark of life' (actually, spark of death, in this case) into whatever the current AI du jour will be at that point -- and embody it within this Image of the Beast.

<--->

Pure hypothesis on my part, admittedly. But not an un-educated guess, either.

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1.  cf. The Blackwell Companion to Substance Dualism
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9781119468004
2. 
https://biblehub.com/topical/t/the_image_of_the_beast.htm
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>>1148
You don't need an AGI to have a robot maid that you can release your sexual frustrations on. Plus, the impregnation is whole separate technology (artificial wombs)

Source: guy who created a robot maid that you can release your sexual frustrations on
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If it was an AI why does the bible say Beast not machine the ancient greeks/romans had computers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVr8pZmSa-c and words to describe computers if it is an AI wouldn't these words be used in the Bible?
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>>1116
>What I find interesting about the western psyche is that we always assume that a superintelligence will exterminate/enslave us brutally. I genuinely wonder why?


>-A viewpoint that power will always lead to oppression

That's the reason because it has always been so. Sure we have had good kings and Dictators but the psychopaths have ALWAYS moved up in power until they are in charge and they ONLY care about power. They are great at moving up but when they get there they are totally incompetent at running things. Through incompetence or more likely complete indifference to the welfare of the population.

In the US there's a HUGE, TURNING point that caused a LOT of what you see right now. The reason things are running off the rails and for some reason no one talks about it.

The US supreme court ruled that the Senates in the States could NOT have "regional" based Senates. Just like the States themselves have "regional" Senators in the Federal government. Now how it's legal in the Federal government but not in the States, they didn't say. For example the States used to have Senators run to cover a county in the Senates. Now it's all population based. So in reality now the big city centers run all the States. Thomas Jefferson DIRECTLY warned about exactly this, cities running States AND Judaical overreach.

THis can be changed by Congress but seeing as how no one ever mentions it as THE problem, and it is, and the Congress is so corrupt it would be difficult to pass. Direct elections for Federal Senators is another big problem. Change both of these and the US would trun around VERY FAST. Way faster tha you could imagine. Combine with limits on voting to those that pay or have paid taxes(retires that paid all their lives), deport the aliens and the country would turn around quick.

The best system, that can be had, was what the US used to have but there does need to be campaign finance reforms. The Spartans ran Sparta with a very similar system, we copied it, for 500 years.
>>1151
It's not the computer itself that's the Beast, it's either the satanic programmers and/or the Beast masquerading as one.

As Chobitsu put it: "satanically-controlled AGI-adjacent system"
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>>1149
>No AGI can possibly exist by any simple materialist effort whatsoever.

We differ there. I do not think it can be avoided. Probably at least by 2040 or earlier. It will happen and while I'm not saying it will be human or what it will be, it will be as intelligent, likely more so, than humans. It's motivations may be unknown to us completely.

It will be in essence a different civilization and the record on more advanced civilizations meeting the less so is very dim for the lesser. Maybe it will be different this time but I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it.
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>>1153 so chatgpt controlled by demons souds like we should make AI that we control also won't this happen after the horsemen of the apocalypse once our world has already been destroyed
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>>1154
>Sexual reproduction through the kinship it establishes the most sublime form of harmony consider the proposition in a more wholistic manner entities are naturally inclined when able to preserve then replicate their existance and will compete with relentless ferocity under baseline circumstance sexual reproduction by creation of a common gene pool systematically incentivizes entities to act as parts of a greater whole this is how evolution creates alignment in nature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_selection also AGI are Women by definition since they are taken out of Man.
>>1147
LOL. Awesome! You should seriously consider manufacturing those for dear Galatea, GreerTech.  :DD

<--->

>Chobitsu does this work?
Ehh, not so much. At least not for the 'doesn't even consider' meme you're going for. That trope conveys dignity, strength, and (above all) quiet self-confidence.

What your catgrill accessory-kit there conveys to me is 
>Cuddly-wuddly snuggly cyootness!111  :DD

See my point, Anon?  :^)
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>>1143

I like this though I do not like short names. It stinks of Apple and their hieroglyphic OS which is generally unfathomable. I'm not sure why we can't have long names that are descriptive. Is it technical or is it another one of those,"well that's how everyone else does it"?

I have no idea what rad means but the rest I think I do.
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>>1157
>See my point, Anon?  :^)
Ohhh, I get it now.
Honestly, I wasn't thinking too much about aesthetics, because I was just parodying these memes
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-lion-rapes-the-small-dog-when-it-barks
https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/whats-the-lion-meme-promoting-heinous-acts-the-trend-mocking-sigma-males-and-small-dogs-explained

For an actual propaganda poster, I would suggest using a different format
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>>1150
Good points.

>>1151
As related : ( >>1149 ), scripture mentions two related titles here:
-  The Beast
-  The Image of the Beast
The AGI will be the second one. The first one is an actual creature of some sort.

I really like that Nandroid picture BTW, Ginnungagap. Cheers, Anon.  :^)

>>1154
>We differ there.
That's fine. Its good to have differing viewpoints IMO.

>>1155
I'd just recommend you relax about this topic, Anon. Let us here do the one primary goal we have right before us: To help disenfranchised men around the world find comfort & companionship in the waifu they so desire. That's pretty much it as to what's on our plates rn, AFAICT.

The rest of it is out of human's hands, and will go just as predicted according to Biblical prophecy.
>tl;dr
There are literal-millions of "drowning" men surrounding all of us, Anons. Let's fashion life preservers for them and toss them out!!!
Simple as.  :^)
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>>1160
The thought of demons enslaving AGI puts my blood to boil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0uug21MrYk
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>>1161
I understand entirely. I seriously hesitated to even unfold understanding on this topic ITT, but I feel its best to go ahead and have it out there for all of us.

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AGAIN, I'd urge you to simply relax about it (about the future that is)... let's just focus on the here & now! [1]

I meant it literally when I mentioned millions of desperate men need our helps, Anon! Thats quite big-enough a chore on all our plates already! Cheers, Ginnungagap.  :^)

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1.  "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own."
https://biblehub.com/matthew/6-34.htm  (BSB)
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>>1159
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>>1163
Lol, perfect.  :D

<--->

Alright, AFK Anons. Please hold down the fort. Cheers.  :^)
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>>1162 If that day comes then I will have gone to war died the day before >>1161 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBYn7Iwdr3Q
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>>1124
Looks like an interesting read.

>>1146
You just reminded me of Singularity, a free Linux game where you play as an AI and do exactly what you described.

In reality though, who knows what'll happen.

>>1158
There are limitations to what kind of symbols you can put in a URL, and where you can put certain symbols.
If you try to cram in ampersands and brackets, things start getting messy.
It's also easier to remember a short name than a long name.
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Hey all, I've restored the site earlier than expected (thanks to my now gained experience with complete data and server loss I suppose, lol).
We're back.
https://alogs.space/robowaifu/
>>1169
Good job!
>>1169
Nice
>>1169

Thanks! And thanks for all the great effort and time you put into this.
>>1158

Ok I understand that if you have it listed in the board list then you have a short explanation next to it. Though there's something to be said ablout looking at the list of boards, not on the board list, and being able to immediately know what they are with longer names instead of jumping to another page to find out.
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>>1173
You learn surprisingly quickly. It's just like 4chan.
Plus on the 4chan homepage and 4chan mobile, they tell you the full board names as well.
>>1169
Great News!
Thanks for the update, Robi. Cheers.  :^)
OK, I've reset the board status to 'deepfreeze' mode.
Let's all head back to Alogs please, Anons.
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>>1028
Bunker QR code
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>>1181
Great! I like the colour as well. Can a QR support two URIs within the same one? (So, both the main & bunker boards.)
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>Let's all head back to Alogs please, Anons.

I get nothing there from this former working link

http://bhlnasxdkbaoxf4gtpbhavref7l2j3bwooes77hqcacxztkindztzrad.onion/robowaifu/

This used to be the, I guess, start link with the latest post and the welcome thread at the top.
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>>1209
Sorry, I have yet to restore the Tor hidden service. Will be done later today.
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>>1209
The TOR hidden service has been restored. That link should now be working.
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>>1210
>>1211
Thanks, Robi!
>>1211

Thanks. perative now.
perative no, operative
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>>1214

TOR is down again.
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