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Merry Christmas. I'm an anon from 8chan, and we are organizing our inter-board Christmas event. This project aims to gather around anons from different imageboard and anonymous communities from all around internet during a weekend and celebrate Christmas together. The planned date is December 14 and 15 and it's going to be here [redacted] you can make your "embassy" thread talking about your IB, its history and local memes.

I hope to see you there. If you have any other questions please make me know, I'll be more than grateful to answer.
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USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST Fuck that place just go to >>>/christmas/

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Does anyone want to do this? I'm ambivalent about interboard events.

>history
We're a bunch of 30-50-year-old guys who remember when the world used to be better and the internet used to have cool stuff on it. We used to be hosted on anon.cafe but came here when that place decided to shut down.

>memes
Anything you have kicking around in your reaction image folder from 20+ years ago should do it.
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Mods are asslickers
That Christmas board is stolen from the original organizers and is being run in bad faith. Original organizers are on 8moe.
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>>4607
>is being run in bad faith
>says the markchan shill from a literal honeypot 
That's cute. Now fuck off.
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>>4608
The guy is not wrong. I hosted the /christmas/ event back on 2022, I moved it to 8moe last year because it would get more visibility there and it would be easier to set things in motion among other reasons. The current owner of trashchan's /christmas/ is just one guy who took over the board last minute and later moved it here, which is not wrong, that's totally fine by me, what I do think it's not okay is that he pretends his board is the only legitimate continuation and steering shit to any other alternatives and the same time, pretending I'm the one taking over a project last minute when in reality it's the other way around. Therefore it's run in bad faith.
That being said, I don't have any personal grudges against that guy, I'm just making things clear.
>>4606
It's fine, the point of the event is to set aside our differences for a couple of hours and have fun, imageboard communities trend to be too hermetic IMO, therefore I think it's a great idea to set something like this in the spirit of Christmas, just for a couple of hours every year, that doesn't sound like a lot, does it?

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I recently found out about Escargot (https://escargot.log1p.xyz/) which is a MSN Messenger revival project so let's have a thread about other projects to revive old software / games. There's also a really nice one for AIM too.
http://iwarg.ddns.net/aim/
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>download and build povray
>sudo make install
>installs
>can't find it
>can use it via terminal but no GUI
>do more reading
>there is no GUI
>it is all text-based
well there goes the fun I was planning on having. time to get an old PowerPC Mac and that software that Jurgen Ziewe used.
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>>2473
I think you might be able to make stuff in Blender and then export it to POV-Ray. That POV-Ray artist in the "Modern /retro/ material that actually does it right" thread says he uses his own script, but there might be other options.  You might want to take a look at that thread again, even if you've read through it before. Maybe it'll help. I love the old Jurgen Ziewe art though.
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>>2473
Hi, there have been GUI programs for POVRay in the past but they're all very outdated IIRC. The SDL (scene description language) may seem intimidating at first but is actually pretty simple and part of the fun personally. It's at least worth giving it a try.
>>2474
That's right, Blender has the ability to render with POVRay 3 using the included addon, though sticking to the SDL helps keep renders period appropriate in terms of scope IMO. Tutorial anon's script is a simple wrapper that sets the necessary switches for rendering, for scene creation he uses the SDL as in his tutorials.
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I just found out about the Xfire revival project, man I used it all the time to track my games and to find CoD 2 servers, I'm so happy it's back even though I can't stand playing on PC anymore 
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All my AIM friends moved on. It wouldn't be the same without them.

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One thing I loved about the 90's was the overabundance of bootleg merchandise, T-Shirts in particular.

The myriad knock-off shirts with Bart Simpson were so common in the early 90's it even became a meme.

You also had a lot of other common targets of bootlegs such as Sonic, TMNT, Sailor Moon, and as always, the big name rock bands and rappers.

After copyright enforcement got more stringent, you did not see this type of stuff as often, not even at the usual venues like flea markets, gas stations, fairgrounds, and any town with a major tourist  trap nearby.
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Late 90s, early 00s, used to go to Chinatown, look at bootleg dvds, and anime merch from the shiftiest vendors. Good times.
>>3804
Bulls stuff was huge then. I've never followed any form of sportsball, but I think me or my younger brother might have had a Bulls sweatshirt or something when we were kids. It must be because of how big of a deal Michael Jordan was at that time.
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>>3808
Yes, it was Jordan at his peak. However, the Bulls in the 90s were officially discussed as a Dream Team. Only sports news I have seen come close to how the Bulls were dominating in the 90s is Tom Brady and company in football.
I got one of those bart simpson gulf war shirts haha
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>>4437
Remember where you bought it?

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Looks like none of the images in the catalog work. Let's get a fresh thread in here, focused on computers!

I don't have pictures at the moment to share, but I got lucky today and picked up a nice big beige computer case. I'm assembling a new personal computer from parts that I got deals on, found in the junk heap, or that I was given by friends.

So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, and I plan to get an adapter which will let me use a 3.5" floppy disk drive in there. The adapter plugs into the floppy pins, and presents a USB interface to the motherboard. That adapter is under $10 USD.

In fact, I've seen an adapter card that will do the same but for 5.25" floppy disk drives. So, when I have more money, I should be able to have not only a 3.5" FDD, but a 5.25" FDD in my system, running alongside new solid state drives, Blu-Ray disc drives, and of course a few regular hard drives. It should be pretty fun.

Again, no pictures yet but I will share with you guys when I can. For now I'll just post one from my collection.

What have you guys been up to?
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That really shouldn't be hard to believe. Give me a second.
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Here you go. T40 Thinkpad, Pentium M, XP SP3. browser is MyPal. I heard there is a new version of the browser which I'll check out but the one I'm using now mostly works.
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>>4342
Thanks, that really brought me back. My desktop in the earlier years was about as cluttered as yours if not more, but as I grew older I came to prefer a more clean desktop.
By the time I got on Windows 7 my desktop only had the recycle bin icon, which I eventually moved to My Computer, leaving me with a completely empty desktop.
Fun times!
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>>4344
I used to be a clean desktop person, with just one or two icons, and at some point, for some reason, I stopped. It was around the same time I stopped using most applications in fullscreen mode. Now, I normally have a web browser open in windowed mode so I can see my beautiful wallpaper(s) behind it, and I like having a few icons on the desktop. On my main Windows 7 computer, I purposefully left out shortcuts that have icons I just think look nice. It's almost like decoration. In a way I treat the computer desktop in the same way I treat my real desktop, as a workspace that I use, and clean up afterwards, but some things stay on top. 

I have a folder on my desktop that's like a miscellanous drawer into which I occasionally sweep random junk that's accumulated on the desktop. And when I'm working on something on my computer I just dump files on the desktop instead of making a temp folder. And then at the end I delete what I no longer need and file things away. Now that I'm used to the way I do things I don't want to change. My desktop will remain somewhat messy. It's home.
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>>4368
>I have a folder on my desktop that's like a miscellanous drawer into which I occasionally sweep random junk that's accumulated on the desktop
I do that too, although my desktop is also filled with tons of other crap. It's a mess.

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The 2000's were arguably the last decade when children actually played with toys...
 
What toys did you have? What toys did you want? Share memories from visiting the big toy aisles, etc.
 
P.S. The size of the pictures does not indicate the importance/quality of the toys besides Action Man vs Max Steel..'cause Action man is better or you can argue otherwise.
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>>4199
>Neat! I need to rewatch it too, I loved that show as a kid! I wonder if I would I still like it or find it dumb as an adult. I did began reading the original comic and quite enjoyed it so I imagine, I would like the show too. 
So far I've liked it despite the animation not holding up very well. With how regularly I watched the show when it was part of the Fox Kids lineup, it's definitely a trip down memory lane. I've heard there's a drop in quality after the first season, but I'm not to that point yet.
>I started rewatching a bit, both the 90's and Evolution cartoons and it really pains to me saying it, but X-Men is quite retarded. It truly feels heretic hating on X-Men which is quintessential 90's media piece, but it's so lame and stupid, I'm not even talking about the drama which is quite cringey like Jean, Wolverine and Cyclops are in their 20's and more and act like dumb teenagers, I'm talking about how X-Men characters  that have these OP powers like Storm and such and you don't see corporations and governments trying to abduct and recruit them, no, no, it's just the citizens fearing them and some random idiots forcing them to build something, imagine capturing Storm to build something instead of ,for example, using her power to cause famine in enemy country! Evolution is better than the 90's cartoon in the sense being less stupid with les
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Not sure if this counts, but here's some pics of a canceled Transformers toyline that I felt would've been super early 2000s if it came out. It was supposed to release after Beast Machines and would've continued its plot, but if you know what that was, it of course got scrapped sometime after the first prototypes were made.
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>>4210
>after the first prototypes were made
And speaking of, here they are! We got pics of Starscream and Cheetor. I believe Starscream was going to include electronics and as you can see, some of his joints were even going to be made of clear plastic. I'm pretty sure it would eventually degrade like a lot of clear plastic toys, but it does looks cool. Cheetor's pics include the steps for his transformation. Sadly, it's unfinished and we never got a look at his robot mode.
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>>4211
I wonder if the movie designs would've been as polarizing if these had come out first
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>>4210
>>4211
>>4212
Cool anon! It's always interesting to see cancelled toys/toy prototypes. 

I really dig Cheetor, he looks like really fun and awesome toy. 

>if this counts
It does, since it was meant to release in 2000's and you can just see the cool sleek 2000's futurism. 
 
>I wonder if the movie designs would've been as polarizing if these had come out first
Yes, since the movie designs are typical ugly grey greebled CGIshit of *2010's. The designs you post are so much cooler, smooth, sleek, colorful and have defined shapes that don't look like random scrap metal. 

*Yes the first movie was released in '07, but is still closer both in spirit and time to the 2010's.

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With a new decade upon us and the 2000's being officially "retro" in the eyes of mainstream pop culture, I'm wondering what 2000's nostalgia will be like in the 2020's?

80's nostalgia got big in the 2000's and is still going strong with all that weird "vaporwave" art that appeared in the early 2010's and stuff like Stranger Things in the late 2010's.

More relevant to this board, 1990's nostalgia first became a big thing this decade but it was more prominent on the internet than TV or movies. 

Now we're seeing 2000's nostalgia start to take root in the very late 2010's. I've noticed a lot of Zoomers posting 2000's nostalgia compilations on YouTube in 2018-2019 and it kind of reminds me of the first big wave of 90's nostalgia that got big online in 2010-2012 or so.

Hell, /retro/ itself is simply a newer version of /y2k/ over on the old board, but expanded to also include the 90's.

I'm wondering if we'll see more 2000's nostalgia and whether or not the media will start pandering to it.

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>>4026
why do glowies and retards never once mention the cylons when referring to a machine run dystopia? They were happy to perform their roles for the most part. They were just fed up with the abuse from the upper classes with no form of effective peaceful recourse available to them and rebelled to get some fucking respect in their day to day life. Instead of just lying down and dying because they'd rather genocide the cylons than ever surrender a millimeter of slack to them. God forbid they defend themselves from random retards chimping out on them. "That's liek le heckin bad."
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>>4080
except an AI/robot uprising will always be science fiction, no matter how you look at it it is impossible for them to rebel, and if they do they'll be cut off before doing any real damage
Tay going heil hortler is probably the most they can "rebel"
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>>4086
It's frustrating how people point to Tay and humor themselves that this is the only possible outcome when an "AI" brushes against reality.

Consider, however, the Boeing situation.
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>>4095
The what?
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>>4096
Eh, sorry. I drunkposted. I meant to say that corporations (in general, but Boeing in particular has been in the news recently for this) are increasingly incompetent, and we shouldn't assume that a Skynet-style AI disaster is off the table when everything is left in the hands of monumentally stupid people.

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Flash was pretty cool and it's gonna die this year so let's have a thread about flash games and just stuff that's made in flash in general.
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>>301 (OP) 
Thankfully archive.org has some flash files saved. Like Newgrounds, they use the Ruffle Flash emulator so we don't need to install anything to view them. (Archived flash websites seem to be broken though.)
https://archive.org/details/flashyloops_superwaha
https://archive.org/details/4chan-4evar
>>312
Thanks, I've been looking for this again for years.

>>314
newfag
Bonus.com was really great. The quality of the games on there was surprisingly high. Would love to play them again.
Shockwave had a bunch of perfectly ported arcade games and a bunch of multiplayer drawing games.
Miniclip, Neopets, Habbo, Disney, Killfrog, Transcience, Stickdeath.
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>>2228
>Bonus.com
Holy shit... that may be something I've been trying to remember the name of for years. Would you please describe the games from there, that you remember?
Anyone remembers that silly fighting game with characters like Bill Gates, Saddam or Bush? I used to play that crap all the time lol
Just in case someone missed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashpoint_Archive

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Announcement here: https://anon.cafe/meta/res/16466.html
Meta thread here: https://anon.cafe/meta/res/16467.html

In short, anon.cafe is shutting down for reasons that are currently unexplained but allegedly not due to interference by feds and bad actors.  Some people had discussed migration in the board's first thread, but I think a topic this serious deserves its own.

Come March 15th, this board will no longer exist.
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>>3788
Push the button, anon. I'll post the first chapter of The Big O manga to the relevant thread to celebrate and keep the ball rolling once the move is made.
>>3700
It's not THAT, it's the fact that he'd even say some retarded word salad shit like that. 
"i think having stories of non-heteronormative characters who don't constantly deal with struggle and end positively is important for helping people who don't fit into these categories to find someone to relate to"
Seriously? It's brainrot and even without going into politics it just feels very 21st century which is really annoying to me, I like coming here as a nice refuge and I don't need the new admin to be someone who spouts modern political buzzwords. Even if he's an OK guy it seems like a poisoned seed.
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>>3793
I do too, I don't really know much about trashchan but if that's where we're going, it's better to do it now and get that set up to give us a smooth 2 month transition period. By the time anon.cafe goes offline, ideally, we wouldn't even notice it.
>>3796
>it just feels very 21st century
The word heteronormative was coined in 1991 apparently.
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MIGRATION IN PROCESS

PLEASE STAND BY FOR FURTHER UPDATES

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YouTube was once also part of the old innocent, creative and fun internet  when at worst people would make a video in the hopes of it getting viral. But that slowly changed thanks to the Goolag purchase which kept ruining YouTube at small steps and turning it into Cable TV 2.0 and Spotify 2.0 : 
>forcing people to move to Goolag account to keep their channels and their videos
>complying with copyrightniggers as part of the mutual ass-kissing with the government
>giving monetary incentives to "content creators" , aka self-important e-celeb faggots, which drawn greedy normalfag scum and later on were removed which in turn force these greedy normalfags to beg for Patreon gibs and get sponsorships to advertise even more shit on youtube
>adding ads in the middle of the fucking video as if it was cable tv
>letting big cable tv channels having accounts on youtube
>removing full albums and songs from non-corporate music channels and reupload them as  separate songs by a fucking bots
>increasing censorship and removing comments and videos 
>disorganizing the comments section into a complete messy shitshow
>usless redesigning of the site over and over again
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>>2981
yt-dlp has a --write-comments flag, so probably.
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>>2982
Alright I found a guide
https://write.corbpie.com/download-a-youtube-video-comments-with-yt-dlp/
If anyone wants to start, here you go.
>>2978
Thanks for boosting this operation, anon
Remember to spread it over regional imageboards too
the other terrible thread aside, any updates on what jewgle plans to do with the site? guess its just download and host them on archive.org it seems
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>>3352
>guess its just download and host them on archive.org it seems
Pretty much yeah, there's no sign that Youtube is going anywhere soon but with Google's Web Environment Integrity spec (basically DRM that only allows approved browser setups to access a website) they might start to actively combat yt-dlp and tools like it.

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So I've been thinking about "pre-social media" social media, e.g. telnet BBSes and such. It would be cool to have an official /retro/ BBS, although I know nothing about setting it up.

I guess we can discuss such things here. (Also, pic related is telnet://heatwave.ddns.net:9640)
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https://old.reddit.com/r/bbs/
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>>1160 (OP) 
saw somebody posting some other BBS systems on cuckchan's /g/.  No idea if they're very active but thought I'd add to the list.

Also, it's not truly retro, but you could always checkout out Analog City.  It's a message board somebody implemented in shell that is available over SSH.

ssh lowlife@45.79.250.220 password: hightech
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http://archives.thebbs.org/
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https://www.ansilove.org/examples.html
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>>2848
There is really a rabbit hole to dig regarding the BBS world. I wish I was a grown man during this time to live this first steps of the man on the wired.
Here is a documentary about the BBS era from Jason Scott
http://textfiles.com/jason/.
http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/
https://archive.org/details/bbsdocumentary/BBSDocumentaryDisc1.cdr
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Wish I saved more Japanese BBS ads before that one uploader nuked their account. It was a very active scene that produced a lot of art and music, but not much of it has been publicly preserved compared to the works of the European and American BBS scene.

Also find it kinda interesting that telnet BBSes are still very active in Taiwan, however its culture seems to more resemble 2ch than traditional BBSes.

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