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Wanna watch some /retro/ TV? Check out https://www.my00stv.com/

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BUNKER


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My grandfather introduced me to "All in the Family" the other day, and I started binge watching it out of a sense of...how edgy it was.  Like this is something that would not come out today.
Some time ago, I was reading some old Usenet posts and thought, "Holy cow, how did this not get banned/deleted?"  Post/users like that would just immediately get scrubbed now.
I recently saw "Freddie Got Fingered" and was kind of amazed that that was in theaters.

Was the 90s more tolerant than today?  Was everything really this edgy?  Or is this some sort of weird survival bias?  The only thing today that I can think of that comes anywhere close is Southpark, but I'm not sure that counts because Southpark came out in the 90s.
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>>5186
>I guess it's been out of usage for a very long time. Maybe it's time to bring it back? 
It fell out of favour to such a degree that a bunch youtubers had to save the source code:
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=CUwR9xdEuZI
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>>5187
Wow, these are really interesting. Thanks Anons!
>>4516 (OP) 
>All in the Family
>this is something that would not come out today
There were rumors of remake, but it seems that no studio wanted to go there
>>4525
>Archie Bunker was a character who was supposed to make the people he's patterned after look bad. It ended up backfiring when audiences end up liking him and identifying with him.
This. From what I've seen of All in the Family there is an aspect to it that is even common place in many contemporary Netflix shows and that is the moralizing. Even back then, the Archie Bunker character couldn't exist on television as some neutral character study about an otherwise unremarkable funny old guy who had his opinions, but wasn't going out of his way to hurt anyone and, as an unremarkable funny old guy, didn't have the power to oppress anyone, yet that character had to serve as the foil for how not to be and his worldview was often the butt of the jokes. Other shows produced by Norman Lear are similar in this respect in that on the surface they appear as superficial comedies, but they wouldn't have been broadcast if not for the ideology that they were espousing.
>Was the 90s more tolerant than today?
In some ways, yes, but as far as mainstream me
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>>5190
>insufferable aspect of so much mainstream media having to be these stealth ideological and moral allegories rather than just telling a straight story for the sake of it.
It would have all been more "sufferable" but for one basic fact: kikes did (and do) run everything in Hollyjew.

That effectively ensures that all the 'stories' line up *  according to the ((( script ))), and that anyone who gets out of line (cf. Mel Gibson) gets blackballed permanently. Thankfully Mel had staying power out of his own pockets and the fact he was incredibly-popular with audiences.

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*  Hollywood is highly "incestuous" (their term): everybody knows everybody. This both makes it hard to break into, and easy to be punitive towards anyone going against the ((( narrative ))) code.
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>>5187
Unfortunately I get errors with yt-dlp even after upgrading all my installed packages, so I can't watch their video. In fact the OS did upgrade the yt-dlp package to a newer version, but it's still "too old" for youtube's shenanigans. The yt-dlp program recommended me to use "pip" to install an entire second set of Python stuff, but I think that's not worth the hassle. And anyway this pretty much illustrates just how aggravating the modern internet has become. I still remember when video files were simply downloaded into your web browser's cache directory, and you could just copy it to another directory in your $HOME to save it. That was simple enough! But then they had to change it, make everything super-duper complicated and require obnoxious workarounds to extract the video and audio streams, and then run ffmpeg to recombine them into a container format like .webm or .mp4 or whatnot. When everything magically works, that still sucks because ffmpeg runs like molasses on ARM hardware. Video playback with ffplay is no problem, but video editing with ffmpeg takes ages! So I'm just going to save myself the headache and simply delete this youtube downloader nonsense. From now on, if I can't just grab a video file directly, I'm not going to bother at all.
And basically this is what I was getting at earlier. We used to host files on FTP servers, Gopher servers, and so on. That's still possible today, those pro
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Let's have a new thread without a tonne of broken images.  Have there been any new forms of /retro/ media (could be movies, games, anime, websites, etc.) that wanted to look old and actually succeeded?

There's an artist called BlueTheBone who makes "retro"-styled animations, cheesecake, and porn.  Like any modern hack, he overdoses on visual clutter and uses filters that don't actually resemble the time period he's trying to emulate - but despite that, I think his style is consistently decent.  If he relied less on computers and filters, then I think he'd be a much better artist, but that goes without saying for most contemporary artists.

The really weird things happen when he tries to make modern character designs and media look old, like pic 2.  It isn't exactly wrong, but there is something perplexing about viewing characters and series that were developed specifically with modern aesthetics in mind.
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>>5162
thank you for sharing this gem
I guess I never shared it here, but Pizza Tower spawned a ton of VHS-style retro animation when it released back in 2023. The Noise update the following year helped keep it going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=7jbjeF0-kMA
>>4348
New Anna Logue dropped just in time for Christmas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtaWTzPLP4
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Happy New Year
I'm that 1 anon who's been curating animation and art that excels in imitating older aesthetics since 2022. This year I've decidied to focus on my personal animation and life, so it'll be a while till my next post

Found an animator named Skarmuse, their art/animation evokes late 90s cg renders projected onto film like those cinemark promos with the cats. 
Some of the animation has anachronistic issues but the key idea is there thanks to coloring, rendering, and bitrate compression/filters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpX9c0BIG6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms5f_vNbOyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGosrHDwd2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3uQv3p4cww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzOe4Bhc2U

I really enjoy this thread, its been super inspirational for my creative process, probably the best use of the 4chan format in my opinion
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>>5173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Ge4KQjv4Q

Would you say Planetronika counts?

>>5171
Ten minutes of Anna. That was pretty good, and I'm glad the cast is being introduced.

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I know this is gonna sound weird, but you ever feel a sense of nostalgia for hentai you enjoyed from back in the day?


The 90's and 2000's had some good titles, and I'll include a lot of the 80's titles in this as well since most of them didn't get released in the West until the 90's or early 2000's.


IIRC, Legend of the Overfiend came out in 1987 in Japan but did not get a release in the West until 1993.


I think the first three parts of the Urotsukidoji OVA was the first hentai release in America ever.


Central Park Media took the different OVA installments of Urotsukidoji and edited them into four feature-length movies, the first of which got a limited theatrical release in the 90's.

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>>5 (OP) 
In a few ways I do, I'm fond of the stuff I grew up with, at the same time I feel it was bad for me to have access to so much stuff from such a young age with the internet and all, it made my brain less sensible to this stuff, to the point where when it was time to finally do it for real, I suffered from ED for months, even now I'm still not perfect, though I'm a lot better, and when I want to make sure I'll pull it off I just use some medication, which back then barely worked because my case was so bad, now it's a treat. Anyways, besides the ED, I feel like the constant need for more stimulus made me develop unrealistic expectations, and fetishes I don't feel proud off, but can't get rid off no matter how long I stay away from all kinds of pornography, I should've used it less.

It's a double edged sword for me.
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>bring up some good old fashioned hentai
>look over the pages robotically
>no longer horny
>imagine having a gf
>instantly very horny and very angry and very sad
Could just be me getting older, but when I was younger almost everything got me fired up really easily. It takes a lot more to titillate me these days.
I focus on AI these days with very carefully curated text erotica it can be great but only when I really manage to get immersed and don't end up writing stupid shit or the AI slopped everything up. I don't think I have changed much tbh, it's just that everything that's out there is so crappy. 70s and 80s porn and 00s early internet amateur kind of stuff was often pretty good and still is if you look at it now. If I open any regular pornsite nowadays I just get disgusted. The people are ugly and what they do is gross. I don't think it's me, either.
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>>4996
genAI porn is like having a bottomless pit in your brain. It's truly going to be the distinction between people who can control themselves and people who can only be led around by surges of brain chemicals.

Getting my mind back took years after I'd spent formative years training myself on "regular" porn. Having infinite media that looks 85% close to your mental image will do horrible things to the human mind.
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>Slut Girl
>Spunky Knight
>Cool Devices
>Bondage Fairies
>50 gorillion amateur illustrations of Goku & Sailor Moon
There were good times, to be sure.

>>4996
>If I open any regular pornsite nowadays I just get disgusted. The people are ugly and what they do is gross. I don't think it's me, either.
This. I can't stand 99.8% of 3D. Once in a VERY blue moon I'll look into some OF chick who's legitimately attractive, save a few pics, and move on. Won't even fap, just "oh, this one's cute."

Everything else either streams of gross white trash jerking off between shifts at Dollar General or plastic-looking "AI SLAVE TO FUCK SHE HAS TO DO IT CLICK HERE." The fact that neither has slowed down their relentless ads means that they're actually popular, there's some malign agenda behind them, or bith.

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>ITT: Vidya of the 90's and 2000's


Keep it limited to the scope of this board, so basically Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Generation consoles only for now. 


For those who don't know what consoles are part of which generation, here's a quick rundown of the time frame we're talking about...


>Fourth Generation: SNES, Sega Genesis/Sega CD
>Fifth Generation: PS1, N64, Sega Saturn
>Sixth Generation: Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, OG Xbox


Discussion of games from the Seventh Generation consoles (PS3/Wii/Xbox 360) is allowed as well, but I'd like the thread to mainly focus on the 4th-6th console genererations since the 7th Gen era carried over into the 2010's and a lot of the games from that era onward obviously have far more in common with modern gaming than stuff from the 16-bit consoles or the PS1 and PS2 eras.
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I found concept art for Yuri's Revenge recently.
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>>5158
I just realized that it's a bit odd how heavily Yuri's Revenge seemed to be leaning into the '50s sci-fi thing when the game itself takes place in the '70s.

The Them!-like missions from Counterstrike with the giant ants feel more thematically appropriate for the time period, similar to how Tiberian Dawn had the missions with the dinosaurs that were inspired by Jurassic Park.

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The 2000's were arguably the last decade when children actually played with toys...
 
What toys did you have? What toys did you want? Share memories from visiting the big toy aisles, etc.
 
P.S. The size of the pictures does not indicate the importance/quality of the toys besides Action Man vs Max Steel..'cause Action man is better or you can argue otherwise.
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>>4210
>after the first prototypes were made
And speaking of, here they are! We got pics of Starscream and Cheetor. I believe Starscream was going to include electronics and as you can see, some of his joints were even going to be made of clear plastic. I'm pretty sure it would eventually degrade like a lot of clear plastic toys, but it does looks cool. Cheetor's pics include the steps for his transformation. Sadly, it's unfinished and we never got a look at his robot mode.
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>>4211
I wonder if the movie designs would've been as polarizing if these had come out first
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>>4210
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>>4212
Cool anon! It's always interesting to see cancelled toys/toy prototypes. 

I really dig Cheetor, he looks like really fun and awesome toy. 

>if this counts
It does, since it was meant to release in 2000's and you can just see the cool sleek 2000's futurism. 
 
>I wonder if the movie designs would've been as polarizing if these had come out first
Yes, since the movie designs are typical ugly grey greebled CGIshit of *2010's. The designs you post are so much cooler, smooth, sleek, colorful and have defined shapes that don't look like random scrap metal. 

*Yes the first movie was released in '07, but is still closer both in spirit and time to the 2010's.
I forgot about Rescue Heroes for the longest time, but they just popped into my head recently and I remembered how lame I thought they were.
>>4212
Blackarachnia looks really cool in that first pic. Reminds me of the mech suits from Bubblegum Crisis.

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I miss video rental stores
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>>831
The one where I live went out of business recently. It's sad, but I was glad it was able to hang on for so long.

Some of my fondest early childhood memories include renting Super Nintendo games from a Family Video store.
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>>475 (OP) 
It's odd... on one hand, what we have now, especially if you consider the ease of piracy aswell, is essentially my childhood dream, and yet, now that I have it, I yearn for what I once had, at a time where I longed for what I have now... is the human being just impossible to please? Is it just nostalgia? I'm not sure, but perhaps I simply overestimated how good having infinite choices was, and the limitations made something like a single choice for a weekend feel like the most special thing, anyways I do miss them.
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>>475 (OP) 
I don't. While I have fond memories of them, torrents are more convenient and free.
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>>5135
I wouldn't want to go back to rental stores, but it feels less meaningful to me to being able to get almost anything I'm after on the Internet.
>>4861
To be honest I think it's mostly nostalgia. Going to the rental store was a fun ritual and all, but I don't miss not finding my favorite movies or those rare films that never made it to home video. Plus the constant audiovisual issues that plague VHS tapes were a complete killjoy.
If you want the VHS renting experience today just go to the internet archive and browse the VHS rips collection, pick a movie at random and watch it. You'll find a lot of low quality garbage but also some nice hidden gems, at least that was my experience.
If you ever visit /vhs/ you might stumble upon some of the reviews I wrote

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There is a lot of history to 2channel, the Japanese megaBBS from 1999-2014. It now continues as 5ch and a broken copy version, neither of which capture the spirit of the old site.
Ayashii world(or strange world) preceded 2ch on the net, as a type of BBS with many instances. The original strange world lasted from about 1995-1996(maybe it was just 1996 I don't remember). They overall went out of style when 2channel came along.

That said, there is still a lifetime of threads, flash, and more from these that is worth reading and watching, as well as some instances that are still alive.


I recommend visiting the english renditions of these sites, they tend to be very easy on hardware because they are just textboards:

English 2channel, originally started by 2ch users in 2003: http://world2ch.net/

English Ayashii Warudo, started by enthusiasts of Japanese BBS: https://fukuoka.x10.bz/bbs.php
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>>5058
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fukuoka down
In general what do y’all think was the best 90’s-2000’s era site
2ch since there is so much stuff that has come from it.

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A thread for artwork and content of anthropomorphic animals characters (or "furries") from the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Sources are encouraged.

Resources:
https://yerf.metafur.org/
http://us.vclart.net/vcl/
https://confurence.com/
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>>4924
Hey, they aren't gooners, they're shortstack appreciators and men of culture.

>>4925
>blue furry avatar talking at camera
Hmm.
>from a tiny channel with 2K subs whose last video was 7 years ago
Okay, it's probably legit then.
>>4925
I think I saw that even before I even made that post, but thanks anyway for posting it. I couldn't remember what the video was called.
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The artist behind Studio Tanuki who made Bunny Maloney (AKA Pinpin Le Lapin, AKA Lupin III if he were a horny French rabbit guy) has made a new website:
https://studiotanuki.com/

There was a pretty big resurgence in Bunny Maloney interest from some viral video essays a year and a half ago, so the creator has been trying to ride that wave. He's quite active on Twitter and Bluesky, mostly Twitter, and he's been trying to contact the networks to ask if they can take the hard drives with the lost episodes out of storage, or to otherwise confirm who actually owns the series and what can be done with it.
https://x.com/studio_tanuki_
https://bsky.app/profile/bunny-maloney.bsky.social

>wtf is bunny maloney
Animated show from the late 00s with a Frutiger Metro aesthetic. It was broadcast in a bunch of different languages but its lasting impression is the dichotomy of looking like a young kids' show but having humor and characters that would fit in a show for teens. There are a lot of dick and sex jokes, bodily fluid jokes, and references to surprisingly old anime. In the original PinPin Le Lapin Flash animation there's 
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>>4976
Kinda similiar design to Groove Armada music video
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Update: the creator was contacted by Mediatoon, who have the episodes in HD and will be uploading them to this YouTube channel in the coming months. There was actually a bit of confusion about this at first since they started uploading stuff without contacting him, but he's confirmed it's the real rights/media holders. Lost media coming back from the brink.

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qnaP_7iHjkk

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Retro /tech/.
 
PDAs, pagers, old mobile phones, mp3 players.  I miss them.  They were so less intrusive to privacy.
 
It sounds really weird, but I'd love it if I could somehow still have a pager as opposed to a cell phone.
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>>5020
I guess they just book a big space and then people come in and set up tables and booths with displays.

Unfortunately, it's full of weirdos and unshowered people. They're not 100% of the attendees, but a significant portion. I guess in hindsight it's stupid to expect anything else, but somehow in my mind I expected Computer Chronicles sort of people and not smelly discord people.

Nevertheless, it was still fun. I got some magazines and a couple bits of hardware as well.
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>>801
Do you have a personal favorite tracker? I should have asked that before. I'm also curious to hear more about your thoughts on the early FL Studio versions and how they compare to the later ones. I first started using the program in the late 2000s, and FL Studio 11 is probably the version I feel most comfortable with.
>>4972
After mulling it over for a few months after I made this post, I ended up chickening out and buying a Hapax instead. After using it a little bit, I feel like it was absolutely the right decision. I'm still in the beginning stages of digging into it, but it's been really easy to learn so far. What scared me off about the Cirklon was not only the added cost, but the fact that it seemed like it would be a hassle for chord-based music and take a lot of willpower to learn. Maybe the Cirklon's aux events have more depth than what the Hapax can do, but the Hapax still makes it really easy to create evolving patterns. One of the first things I did when I got it was to create a simple line on one channel and copy it over to another channel with a slightly lower elasticity setting to create a phasing effect like in Steve Reich's music.

On the negative side, I think it's going to take some fiddling to get old MIDI files I created imported due to the pattern length limitations. I haven't been able to get USB MIDI to work and have had 
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One day it would be cool to be 100% analog. Or at best no digitech beyond the 80's, so an IBM running MS-DOS as a private BBS and usenet and IRC server would be okay. Kinda wondering if it'd be cool to get a satellite only GPS if I ever decide to go nature night walks or haunted urbex with an old camera that doesn't have any kind of wireless connection.
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>>5111
Oh yeah, for nearly 15 years now I've had hooked up to my past three computers these 80's style boombox speakers that sound mighty fine to me especially when I crank the bass. I don't care to hear any fancy new audio than this, especially since I picked these up from goodwill for maybe $20. No $600 surround sound for me, especially if it's backdoored and needs "updates" to its touchscreen OS.
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>>5112
You can have pretty much the same experience with a big, phat dumb stereo system. They are still being made. And they are still expensive as shit. Thank God for AKG clones.

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>These guys think they're bad because they walk slow...
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i heard the around the world WUBWUBWUBWUB remix at the gym again today and now i'm mad
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>>5012
I argue all remixes are terrible. I work with a guy that's too cheap to pay for a streaming service or buy albums but won't pirate, so he'll download remixes and covers as a loophole. I've heard enough butchered music to cement my opinion.
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>>4281
>>5012
>>5013
Never underestimate the power of a good remix. Ignore all the modern trash and listen to these.
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Do old internet remixes count?
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