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This thread is for general (shit)posting of Neptunia and Compile Heart-related topics, similar to /nepgen/ in 4Chan's /vg/. Discussion of Neptunia and other Compile Heart IPs such as Mary Skelter, Fairy Fencer, Death end;re Quest, Mugen Souls and Genkai Tokki is permitted. Discussion of Idea Factory's otomes is discouraged. If you wish to discuss a specific Neptunia or Compile Heart-related topic in-depth, it is encouraged for you to make a thread for it on the board. Remember, you have an entire board for yourselves. Use it.

Previous: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/520565997/

Upcoming Compile Heart games and release dates:

Hyperdevotion Noire (Switch) - Out now in Japan.
Tokyo Clanpool (Switch/PC) - Out now in Asia (Hong Kong e-shop and Playasia) and on GOG
Neptunia Riders VS Dogoos localization - Out now on PS4/PS5/Switch. Switch version is missing DLC
Touhou Spell Carnival localization - Out Now
Neptunia GameMaker R:Evolution - Out Now Xbox Series and PC (MS Store)
Todokero! Tatakae! Calamity Angels (Summer 2025) - PS4/PS5/Switch/PC
Untitled M2 Shoot'em Up (Summer 2025) - PS4/PS5/Switch
Madou Monogatari 4 - Out Now in Japan PS4/PS5/Switch, Out 2025 in the west
Death end re;Quest Code Z (PS4/PS5) - May 13 for western release
Scar-Lead Salvation (PS4/PS5/PC) - May 29 2025, PC and PS4/PS5 versions will launch worldwide same day.
Calamity Angels: Special Delivery (PS4/PS5/Switch) - Summer 2025 for both Japanese and western versions
Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1-3 (PS4) -TBA 2025 for western release

>Hyperdimension Neptunia Downloads (Skins, Artbooks, Manga, Guides, Soundtracks, etc.):
https://rentry.org/rrbfs

>Folder containing all the 4koma and Nepnokai raws:
https://mega.nz/#F!shkAGDaK!-X8nObRihU5EqP5Zx8yVMA
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I love Red Riding Hood
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I love Blanc.
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Do you think we'll be rid of the IFtard after this? I wasn't inclined to be too hostile to him at first. I thought of him like a jester or class clown of sorts, the guy who's just there so everyone can trash on and make fun of him. But I started getting much more frustrated with him when he started attacking Blanc with the "she's gay for Plutia" shtick. He even outright called her ugly at one point. But the whole "gay for Plutia" thing bugs me the most because playing through Re;Birth 3, I can see that someone putting on the goggles and setting them to maximum can possibly see something there. She joins with a Lily Rank of 4 with Plutia compared to the default 2, and the game jokes a couple times about how she seems compete with N**re for Plutia's attention. It's honestly gnawing at me a bit.
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>>7524
Honestly I don't even know if any anons will return to Nepgen after this. We were already slow as balls and I get the feeling some anons might quickly forget about 4chan.
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>>7528
If 4Chan comes back, I will return. I'm invested in Neptunia and Compile Heart now, for various reasons, and I like talking with you guys. But I was hoping we could establish ourselves here. Do you not like this arrangement? An entire board all to ourselves. Less file size and type restrictions. No retarded jannies. Doesn't it sound nice?
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>>7531
It's fun, but without the people I don't think it will work at all.
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>>7524
>Do you think we'll be rid of the IFtard after this?
No.

I don't like it, either, but you can't let it gnaw at you. That's what the IF schizo wants. He wants to ruin Blanc for us, so we'll stop admiring her and stop posting about her. His endgame is everyone must post about his headcanon version of IF and talk about how lucky he is to be with her. At least, that's what I'm convinced. He's even convent to reply to himself alone in his own general if the mods would let him get away with it.

You can always fight fire with fire like some of the other posters do. Oftentimes by posting IF being gay. Which at least has some canon basis.

Blanc never shows any signs of romantic affection towards Plutia. No blushing or nervousness or getting flustered, absolutely nothing. And she's totally capable of those emotional responses, don't you dare try and claim she's just hiding it. I think the most telling is when chapter 4 opens up and she's just as bewildered as anyone else that Plutia suddenly had kids. I think if she were romantically interested, she'd have shown some jealousy or even pain. Which tells me that she draws lines between friendship and romance and that Plutia is firmly on the "friendship" side of things. Her lily rank starts out high because Plutia was there for her at her lowest point. The mark of a true friend. I know Ploot expressed ulterior motives, but have you noticed she never went through with them?
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>>7546
Damn, you really think? He hasn't followed us here, and if he was as attached to /nepgen/ as he seemed to be, I think he would have. There's a chance he may show up again if 4Chan and /vg/ revive, but considering that and all the other things, do you REALLY want to go back there?
>And she's totally capable of those emotional responses, don't you dare try and claim she's just hiding it. 
I doubt I ever would. Blanc is not like Noire who in typical tsundere fashion dances around what she really wants to say (to the point where Plutia had to stick her boot up her ass to make her say it at one point). Blanc is very honest, direct and to the point. Which is one of the many things I like about her. I'm a firm advocate of saying what you mean and tend to get frustrated in real life when people don't.
>I know Ploot expressed ulterior motives, but have you noticed she never went through with them?
I called that she wouldn't go through with them the moment she said them. Truth be told, Iris Heart tongue-lashing Blanc at her lowest and calling her a crybaby (when SHE is partially responsible for her entire predicament) was probably the only time in the game where I actually almost got mad at her like Noirefags and Gearfags tend to do. But considering everything she did for her after that, I choose to believe her intentions were genuine. In part, I think Plutia likes to "play a role" of sorts. She likes the intimidation factor that comes from her violent sadistic tendencies as Iris Heart. But everything about Plutia and what she does otherwise tells me she's good-hearted in spite of that. So I choose to believe she really did just want to help and befriend Blanc.

This site uses asterisks for spoilers, which caused me censoring Noire's name to accidentally spoiler half of my post.
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god, the theme here is even worst than in 8chan
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>>7561
What's wrong with it?
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>>7562
op green text and url is terrible. they should have put that in a window like the normal post.

also, are you ip switching? im not sure how many we are here i can see 8 unique ip
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>>7563
I'm not bothered by that. I can see it easily enough. In terms of functionality, this site isn't shitting itself with 503 errors every 30 minutes, too.
>also, are you ip switching? im not sure how many we are here i can see 8 unique ip
I count five unique posters in this thread including you and me. Yes, I am using a VPN at the moment, although not for posting reasons, but I also think IDs here seem to just rotate periodically on their own as well.
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>>7563
I tend to phonepost a lot...
>>7561
you can just change it
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>>7566
I can't believe I didn't try this before. Why the fuck would people put up with 4Cuck when we have cool shit like this? Before you ask, just click the settings button in the corner and it'll bring up a window where you can choose from various things, and "theme" is one of them. There's options for themes mimicking 4Chan's if you feel like you need them, too.
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>>7550
I'll probably go back regardless, assuming it comes back. And I expect the schizo to return with it. As for why he hasn't followed us here, either ignorance or perhaps fear that new environs won't tolerate his shit. I think he's hinted about being booted from other Neptunia spaces before.

As for Plutia not following up on her motives, I personally think one of two things happened. Either she realized it was going way too far since Blanc isn't a bad person, or perhaps she's outright afraid of Blanc's likely reaction. She's not at rock bottom anymore, realistically if Iris Heart moved to hurt her, then she'd get the full brunt of an enraged White Heart without either Nep or Noire to help her. I will stand by my claim that chapter 3's events imply Blanc could 1v1 any of them and stomp when she's enraged.

I did not do the spoiler right.
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>>7567
Moot said "The problem with 4chan alternatives is that they're just 4chan but better." I.e, there's no culture to pull people towards it aside from a chunk of 4chan that shot off from the main branch so to speak. That's probably one of the things that makes sites like Sharty, Sturdy or KF actually have life. They have a culture that brings posters together.
You could say this place has that too (Neps) but the nep community is too small, as you no doubt already know.
also 4chan also has themes what are you on about lol
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>>7569
I'll stick with believing that Plutia was genuine with her intentions regardless of what she said. I don't think Iris Heart is the type to really think about that kind of thing. She'd probably assume that because she beat White Heart before, she could do it again. She tends to get too into thinking about how she's going to "play" with her opponents to make calculated decisions like that.
>I'll probably go back regardless, assuming it comes back
I feel like you're saying you don't like this place. There's no 15-minute timer here (and that was especially an issue for me since I use a browser that automatically deletes all cookies upon closing, so every time I closed my browser, I had to go through the 15 minute wait again). There's no annoying schizos here (at least not yet), there's no out-of-touch asshole jannies to give Ny*m*ta posters a pass while banning you for lashing out at them, or even banning you for posting a console game CG. You can post up to five files per post here, in more formats to boot, with higher file size limits, you don't have to solve a captcha every time you post, VPNs aren't blocked, etc etc. Now that you know, why go back?
>>7570
But now there IS something to pull people towards altchans, and it just happened. You could claim ignorance as an excuse before, but now you have no real excuse. Besides, I think there's a good chance 4Chan won't come back.
>also 4chan also has themes what are you on about lol
I never noticed.
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>>7571
I think the near standoff when she fought WH made her think twice. Too tired to resist arrest sounds like too tired to for any punishing. Either way I feel like Plutia had to at least come to the conclusion at one point that Blanc is just as dangerous as she is.
>I feel like you're saying you don't like this place.
As many pros as you've listed, and you can argue this is a pro in of itself, but this board is just real secluded. We've struggled with dead hours on /vg/ many times... although I suppose you might consider it moot since we're hardly in any danger of falling off the catalogue to begin with. Also, old habits die hard and I'm already missing some of 4chanx's features. Like alerts when I get replies.
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>>7572
Seclusion is indeed a good thing in many ways, especially for a niche interest like ours. I believe I've already said that one of the things I liked about /nepgen/ was its relative seclusion relative to the rest of the site and resulting comfy posterbase where I don't have to fight off normgroid assholes complaining about "weeb kusoge/shovelware" or "pedoshit" like on /v/. We're also in no danger of falling off any board here as we ARE the board, unlike on /vg/ where I did see /nepgen/ fall off the catalog at least once and have to be remade. And if we want new users, I can do "recruitment drives" sort of like what I'm doing now.
>4ChanX
Never used it. For alerts about replies, I just keep the thread open in a tab and connected for live posts. It'll show a number when the thread has new posts.
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>>7573
>Never used it.
It was a damn good convenience. Anyways I'm telling you, no one who uses "kusoge" is a normalfag. They're just the same brand of picky and vitriolic that /v/ always is. Although Neptunia is still kusoge. Especially the spinoffs.

Also it's occurred to me that one of us might exhaust our Blanc folder before these threads even approach death. Maybe. I don't know. I tend to be a bit selective on what I save, though.
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>>7574
>no one who uses "kusoge" is a normalfag
They pick up on it as it's used by the weebs they share a site with. They then inevitably dumb it down into "thing I don't like".
>spoiler
I don't think so, and I don't think you really believe that, either, or you wouldn't be here. 
>Also it's occurred to me that one of us might exhaust our Blanc folder before these threads even approach death.
Mine currently stands at 1.15 GB, but that's just from the Blanc images I've saved since making it. I still haven't moved all the images from my ~17-18 GB unorganized Nep folder.
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>>7575
>They pick up on it as it's used by the weebs they share a site with. They then inevitably dumb it down into "thing I don't like".
They really don't. The normalfag would say "speak english", or worse "speak american." Normalfags do not take easily to loanwords from Japan.
>I don't think so, and I don't think you really believe that, either, or you wouldn't be here. 
Listen, I love this franchise, but there's an undeniable lack of budget and polish in these games that make most of them kusoge. As you play through the Re;Birth trilogy you will realize just how much this franchise relies on reusing assets. A game can be shitty and still be enjoyable, to a point. I say "especially" the spinoffs because most of them are to that point. They're not very enjoyable, contain very little of what makes the franchise so magical, and are too often just cynical cashgrabs. Some of them are alright but still have problems. I like 4GO a whole lot but I would never tell anyone it's good as a pure game.
>Mine currently stands at 1.15 GB, but that's just from the Blanc images I've saved since making it. I still haven't moved all the images from my ~17-18 GB unorganized Nep folder.
I didn't mean to start a dick measuring contest with folders, sorry. My Blanc folder is currently at around 4GB. I do not have a large unorganized Nep folder. When I made the statement, I was assuming it'd be me who would run out anyways.

...There are images in my Blanc folder I would never post, too.
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>>7576
Your definition of "normalfag" seems to be different from mine. I use the term to refer to not just outsiders to otaku culture, but also ones who try to enter niche spaces and blend in without truly grasping or appreciating what they're latching onto. I'm sure you've seen this a lot on Xitter. All the arguments with and about "tourists". I consider them another breed of normalfag.
>Listen, I love this franchise, but there's an undeniable lack of budget and polish in these games that make most of them kusoge.
Maybe I just have high tolerance for jank, but I find them simple, enjoyable JRPGs with a lovable cast of characters. And characters are one of the most important aspects of gaming, especially Japanese ones. They're part of the game, too, and should be factored into its overall judgment. I suppose I part from the "gameplay over all" fags on this, but I also really don't think Neptunia's gameplay is that bad.
>As you play through the Re;Birth trilogy you will realize just how much this franchise relies on reusing assets. 
I've already realized. PS Dimension and Vida Dimension are literally the same dungeon. So is Halo Forest and Nekotouki Forest. Hell, I've even noticed little things like sound effects being reused across Compile Heart titles.
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>>7577
>Your definition of "normalfag" seems to be different from mine.
Apparently so. Mine is "a derogatory term for a normal, average person." Normalfags are bad for a hobby but for different reasons. They're passively harmful, they eat up any old shit without complaint as long as it doesn't stray too far from their comfort zones. You won't find those types on an anonymous image board. You'll find people adjacent to them, but actual normalfags steer clear of places where wrongthink and no-no words are commonplace.
>but I find them simple, enjoyable JRPGs with a lovable cast of characters.
That's what mainline Neptunia tends to be. And what do you know they're the least kusoge out of the group. There's still a lack of quality, but not enough to ruin the experience. The spinoffs, however, nearly always skimp on the characters, and the extra jank you get when they venture outside of the RPG genre just makes it worse. The most recent was just a handful of cutscenes, hardly anything substantial, attached to a really shitty driving game.
>I've already realized. PS Dimension and Vida Dimension are literally the same dungeon. So is Halo Forest and Nekotouki Forest. Hell, I've even noticed little things like sound effects being reused across Compile Heart titles.
True, I forgot for a moment how extensive the asset reuse is across their IPs.

Be warned, I'm going to sleep.
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>>7578
I haven't played any of the spinoffs yet, so I guess I'll have to find out for myself. I have Action Unleashed and will move to that eventually, probably after Re;Birth 1.
>Be warned, I'm going to sleep
So am I, soon. Good night.
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>>7579
>Action Unleashed
One of the more okay-ish spinoffs, at least. But I'm still salty that Blanc's game was just a reskin with a dumb RE parody plot.
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>>7580
Is Megatag really so bad that I won't enjoy it even as a Blancfag? If I ever get around to making a Steam account, it was going to be one of the first things I get.
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>>7581
Well, it's not bad bad. There are some cute Blanc moments in it. But the whole thing was a really low effort affair and the entire premise fits a certain Lastation goddess a lot better. Almost like they had the idea ready to go and assume she'd top the polls again. Even the promo artwork features her more than Blanc herself.

If you can forget all that, you can have a fun time, but to me it just leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Also, I don't like RE so I can't really appreciate the RE parody plot of Blanc's movie.
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>>7582
>the entire premise fits a certain Lastation goddess a lot better. Almost like they had the idea ready to go and assume she'd top the polls again.
They really can't help themselves, can they? Even when said goddess kicks them in the face for no reason other than spite. They treat her with kid gloves even in spite of everything, but will they do the same with Blanc? They already had a Nepstation segment in Re;Birth 3 where they not so subtly mocked Nintendo for their 90s policies, and that was when they weren't on the wrong end of said policies. But of course when Soyny does it, it's "rAiSiNG StaNDaRDs". It does make me wonder how they're going to handle it in the next mainline, because there's no way they don't know by now.
>Also, I don't like RE so I can't really appreciate the RE parody plot of Blanc's movie
I do, or at least did. I played almost every Resident Evil game up to 4 when I was a teen. But I was so bad at most of them that I resorted to cheating. Especially Code Veronica, where I got stuck on the Tyrant fight on the airplane. The only one I think I beat normally was 4.
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>>7583
Devil's advocate here, but I think they just genuinely did not expect Blanc to win. It was a popularity poll, they said the winner would get a spinoff game. Noire had one the last one handily and had been the fandom favorite ever since. But then the fandom largely decided it was Blanc's turn for a spinoff and some IF faggots tried to stuff the ballot so hard that she got second place and that's how "that" game came to be. Literally a consolation prize.

And I'm sure CH will be cunts about it since NoA decided to go even harder than SIE. What a fucking nightmare. They really should just shut down NoA.

Survival Horror is just a genre that does not appeal to me at all. I haven't played any of them and have no desire to.
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>>7584
> but I think they just genuinely did not expect Blanc to win.
Are they just that detached from reality?
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>>7585
Maybe, or maybe it's the fact that it was the second popularity poll ever, and in the first Noire scored 1st and Blanc scored 7th. Remember how I said her arc in V rehabilitated her image? Well, both of these polls happened to have been held before and after V.
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>>7585
By and large, yes. Just look at how they approach trends.
They made a vtuber game when vtubers were getting more popular... but completely neglected giving any of the popular ones they got to work with any meaningful place within the story and completely forgot to shill their own vtuber (who I bet you don't even know exists). 
Or look at how they decided that the future of Neptunia would be action based because it seemed like all big turn based JRPGs were becoming action... They tried it for two games and then said "nah next numbered game is turn based we swear".
Look at their other non-nep new games too, they just don't know what their fans want, I think.
Although if you're talking about Blanc only... uh idk Compa just loves Lastation exec dick too much maybe
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>>7586
That is not me you're replying to there, just so you know.
On V's Chapter 3, do you really think it was a good thing in the long run? Judging by what I've read, it marked an overall shift in her characterization across the franchise. I'm afraid I can't make a proper judgment on that yet since I haven't played HDN, but I definitely had a rather conflicted reaction to all of the events that make up her "arc" in Re;Birth 3.
>>7587
>Or look at how they decided that the future of Neptunia would be action based because it seemed like all big turn based JRPGs were becoming action
I'd like to think that they intended for that to be relegated to the spinoffs. But then again, apparently SvS's marketing was very confused as to whether it was supposed to be a spin-off or a mainline, probably because it was the first high-profile Neptunia game in a while.
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>>7588
My bad, wasn't sure if you had some VPN shenanigans going on or not.
>On V's Chapter 3, do you really think it was a good thing in the long run?
I think it's been a double edged sword. It's good that Blanc has remained relatively popular among fans, but at the same time it's attracted a lot of fans who don't appreciate her for who she is. The absolute worse is when she's put into the hands of incompetent writers who want to get the same effect as her arc in V without understanding any of the context. The two biggest offenders are in RB1 and the anime.
>RB1
So, this was one of the parts of HDN that was completely re-written in the remake. In HDN a lot of Lowee's arc, when it wasn't concentrated on Neptune's efforts to befriend and placate Blanc, was focused on relations between the Guild which was a support organization for people who didn't worship the goddess of the nation they were born in, which were referred to as heretics, and the country at large. There was an extremist faction that tried to overthrow Blanc after she or her government so graciously took those heretics in as refugees after Leanbox tried to purge them IIRC.

RB1 decided to replace all of that with a fake Blanc. Even using the fake to explain the five seconds of initial hostility shown to Neptune's party. And then when Financier takes them to Blanc's inner circle to meet the real deal, Blanc ends up crying as she petitions help in reclaiming her nation. Completely and utterly unearned, not even close to the rock bottom situation she found herself in V. Absolutely out of character. The whole point of her arc in V was that Blanc was nearly unbreakable and you had to put her at absolute rock bottom just to get her to crack. And even in tears she was still ready to fight and resist to the bitter end.

>the anime
I hate episode 2. What a dogshit story. I get that she cares about her sisters, but absolutely rolling over for mother fucking Abnes just so Neptune can have her stupid moment to swoop in and save her? Bull fucking shit. Once again, totally out of character, the writers just didn't understand her at all and just wanted to milk those tears and make the audience feel bad for her. Those are the most egregious examples of how chapter 3 negatively impacted Blanc, but thankfully it hasn't gotten quite that bad since. Her characterization in VII and SVS were both a lot more on point. I can buy Blanc showing her softer side to her sisters more, and I can buy her shedding tears after not seeing them for two whole years. And I can buy her completely giving up in the failed timeline where Arfoire possessed Rom. Although even her present day self chastised herself for being that "weak." Poor thing...

>But then again, apparently SvS's marketing was very confused as to whether it was supposed to be a spin-off or a mainline, probably because it was the first high-profile Neptunia game in a while.
It had a lot of effort put into it and the premise immediately placed it in the mainline continuity. But unfortunately the game kinda Sonic 06'd itself by the end from what I understand. And the game is just really dark for Neptunia. It gets more fucked up when you consider the possibility that UD likely hadn't experienced any time resets which is why the portal closed off to begin with. Imagine how much time has passed for UD while Future Maho repeatedly reset the timeline over the span of years.

But I digress. It seemed like CH wasn't terribly confident in the game so they branded it an "orthodox spinoff" in Japan, and even then that was kinda buried in a blog. I'm assuming "orthodox spinoff" means "it's in the main continuity, but it's still a spinoff."
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>>7587
>Or look at how they decided that the future of Neptunia would be action based because it seemed like all big turn based JRPGs were becoming action... They tried it for two games and then said "nah next numbered game is turn based we swear".
I would like to know who the fuck at Compile Heart makes these decisions and why they still have a job.
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>>7588
Maybe SvS was just meant to set up the next mainline taking the neps into the PC continent or otherwise it being important to the game and that's what they meant?
>>7590
>why they still have a job.
They've been hiring for years they're probably understaffed and don't want to let anyone go lmao.
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>RB1
And that's actually probably next on my list or close. I was aware it was likely inferior in writing to the original, which is part of why I started with Re;Birth 3 instead of it. It's clear to me I really ought to play the original HDN, but I don't have a PS3, and I'm not sure if my laptop can run RPCS3, considering the way emulators tend to work. I'm considering getting a used PS3 down the line for a few reasons (one of the games I want to play in the future doesn't work on RPCS3, and another is only uncensored on it as its PC versions are all censored.).
>the anime
I stopped at episode 4 when I got pissed at the blatant Candidate shilling subplot. Admittedly though, I also wasn't paying such close attention to the first 3 episodes either.
>SvS
It's pretty evident that her sisters are one of Blanc's few real weaknesses. They're much more vulnerable than she is, and she's ultra-protective of them because of that, so some villains that may want to get to her may target them just for that. I guess SvS turned Arfoire into the demon from Don't Kill It (if you've seen that movie), and like that movie, I assume the possession is permanent and irreversible, in which case Arfoire possessing Rom represents Blanc's ultimate failure to protect the ones she loved most. At least it wasn't Blanc herself.
On the topic of Re;Birth 3's Lowee arc, I actually posted a small essay on it in /nepgen/ a few weeks before 4Chan went down. Did you ever read it?
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>>7592
That's strange, I thought people wanted Ram and Rom for something else.
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>>7594
jobber!
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I swear to God that better not be him. I am sick already of the "Blanc is gay for Plutia" narrative. These antics aren't funny any more.
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>>7594
Cute lesbian!
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>>7592
I would definitely encourage you to get a PS3. Just don't go down the rabbit hole of backwards compatible models. It's expensive and unfortunately it's not a good all-in-one solution. PS3's PS1 support is garbage and full of audio slowdown that drives me insane. Just get a super slim and be done with it.
>I stopped at episode 4 when I got pissed at the blatant Candidate shilling subplot.
I recall the director saying he liked mk2 the most so go figure...
>spoiler
I think it's bullshit all around but apparently Arfoire's ability to possess others was vaguely hinted at during mk2's true end. It's frustrating because she was supposed to be dead for good after mk2 but then stupid bullshit happens and instead she's an unkillable existential threat and... basically very anti-Neptunia when you get right down to it. But I digress. Blanc couldn't have been possessed. You know how I said the candidates just don't have personalities? Well, this kinda lampshades that. It's stated very explicitly that Arfoire can only possess people that either haven't yet developed strong personalities or the incapacitated. The PC contintent's goddess was the latter, which is a detail many seemed to have missed as the body she inhabits for most of the game was the PC continent's goddess's... which only by coincidence looks just like VII's Arfoire. Rom is a clear example of the former. She doesn't have a very strong well so the poor thing was susceptible to possession and I can't blame Blanc for being unable to fight her sister.
>On the topic of Re;Birth 3's Lowee arc, I actually posted a small essay on it in /nepgen/ a few weeks before 4Chan went down. Did you ever read it?
I did, and I meant to reply to it, but I was going through a particularly bad spell of sleep deprivation and it got lost... and since then, I've of course forgotten the contents. I'm sorry. But I swear I did read it.
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>>7598
Ah, fuck. If I did, I was planning to get a BC model if I could. I already have a PS2, but I thought it would be nice to have another thing that can play those games in case something happens to it. But more than that, I'm worried about the CMOS battery issue, and I think that's why I opted to get a PS2 back then when I could have just gotten a BC PS3.
>spoiler
That's a relief. Yes, I'm well aware that the candidates don't have much in the way of personalities. It's part of why I don't like them very much. In the other thread, I went on a bit of a tangent about how Rom and Ram are almost non-characters with little potential for growth since they're eternally kids. You can also see this in their HDD forms, which I also brought up in the other thread. The goddesses in their HDD forms seem different compared to their human forms because they have multifaceted personalities, different aspects of which get emphasized when they transform. The candidates, by contrast, change very little in their HDD forms, which is because they don't have the multifaceted personalities their sisters have.
>I did, and I meant to reply to it, but I was going through a particularly bad spell of sleep deprivation and it got lost... and since then, I've of course forgotten the contents.
Should I repost it?
On another note, 8Chan moe's captchas are getting annoying. Sometimes they don't show when you bring up the reply box, and when you try to reply, you'll get told to fill out the captcha which isn't there, and you'll have to refresh the page. And sometimes, even when you DO fill out the captcha, the website is shitting itself so badly over the traffic influx that you'll get a connection error and have to fill out the captcha AGAIN! It's not as bad as 4Chan's 15-minute timer, but it's still annoying.
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>>7599
>I already have a PS2, but I thought it would be nice to have another thing that can play those games in case something happens to it.
You will spend more just acquiring a backwards compatible PS3 than you would ever replacing your much more reliable PS2 if anything happened to it. And that doesn't even go into preventative maintenance. I got mine recapped and delidded to replace the thermal paste, as well as a more aggressive fan curve installed, and all that still might be snake oil. The only definitive fix for a BC PS3 is to have the RSX swapped for a newer, smaller one, and that's a very expensive process. $400+ and that's not including the cost of your BC PS3. And again, all for the broken promise of an all-in-one that can't properly play PS1 games. I repeat, just get a super slim and be done with it.
>spoiler 1
I give Uni a pass, ironically enough. I think she's got potential. The fact that she's kinda lousy at playing a tsundere makes it more endearing than annoying like her dumb sister. Plus I really like her interactions with Blanc in some of the tertiary material. Honestly, just let Blanc adopt her as a third sister. She'd treat her better than Noire does.
>Should I repost it?
If you want to hear my thoughts, sure, I'll give it another read and try not to let it slip away again.
>spoiler 2
I had that happen to me, too.
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Alright, here goes.

>Perhaps expectedly, I have very mixed, but mainly negative, feelings on Re;Birth 3's Chapter 3. It's an entire chapter that's almost nothing but pain, suffering, and humiliation for Blanc. I am told that this was written to help humanize Blanc and endear her to people, and to an extent I can understand why. It's basically all about breaking down the goddess to reveal the lonely and insecure girl within. As she is normally the least approachable of the goddesses, between her insular demeanor and her extreme temper, I suppose Compile Heart felt they needed to show her at her most vulnerable to get people to like her. My main problems are threefold. For one, in a way, it's those exact qualities that make her unapproachable that are at least part of why I love her. Her qualities combine to give her an untouchable, almost otherworldly aura that is a core part of her beauty to me. For two, if they wanted to humanize her, bring her down to earth in a sense, why did they have to do it this way? Surely there was some way that didn't involve breaking her to the point of tears. For three, what kind of fan do they think this will attract? Someone who couldn't appreciate her until they saw her reduced to a sobbing mess? Should that kind of person even be allowed to say they like her? I am reminded of Plutia's given reason for helping Blanc, and I start drawing links between this chapter and the seeming glut of sexual fan art that depicts Blanc being abused or humiliated, to the point it far outnumbers more "vanilla" portrayals. It makes too much sense. Besides Plutia's comment, there's also the fact that the foremost villain is a fat, balding businessman clearly designed after the archetypal "ugly bastard" common in rape hentai. Yes, there is fan art, commissions even, of him raping her. It disgusts me! On the brighter side, I enjoy the designs of Lowee and Lowee Castle in Ultradimension.

>There's also another angle to this, and that is the clear raging hard-on Compile Heart have for Noire/PlayStation. Even though the whole mess is in large part her fault, it's never acknowledged and all the blame for escalating the situation is placed on Blanc and Lowee despite the clear signs that Blanc had no real idea why she stormed over to Lastation's border and even waited patiently at Lastation Immigration and Customs for Noire to arrive. If she actually intended to invade, she would have just crushed the guard and went straight to Lastation's Basilicom, likely with an army backing her. But she didn't, because she never really actually wanted to attack Lastation and harm innocent people. Even when three CPUs including Noire march straight into her castle chambers, she still doesn't want to actually kill them and settles for just roughing them up as a warning. Even with how much Lastation's mere existence has clearly harmed her nation, robbing her of shares and inflaming her insecurities, she never proceeds to open conflict until Noire gives her no choice. Even though Warechu and Copypaste tricked Noire into believing Lowee was responsible for the attack on her factory, they were so transparent that Noire is genuinely retarded for falling for it. The lion's share of the blame for Chapter 3's events and Blanc's fall is squarely at the feet of Black Heart and her sheer hubris and desire for conflict. But when it all goes down, it's BLANC who gets called arrogant! This despite the fact that literally two scenes ago, Noire was thinking up a scheme to throw her allies including her long-time friend Plutia under the bus to take all the glory for herself. But she is never, ever called on her sheer arrogance and her role in the conflict; it's all blamed on Blanc. It's Blanc who's forced to change. It's Blanc who has to be humbled. Never N**re, the most she ever gets is the usual "haha that's our Loner Heart". If this is considered a retelling of the 90s console wars, then Compile Heart are making it VERY clear which camp they're in.

I'll add to this that another thing the whole arc did for me was instill in me a very strong desire to protect and shield Blanc from all this. And I wonder if this same feeling was what drew people like Haru to her. Perhaps they basically just saw a sad and lonely girl who needed a hug. And this desire caused them to overlook Blanc's "rougher" edges so they could fit that fantasy of her. It makes me wonder if I'm having the "wrong" reaction, but I can't help what I feel. You'll never hear me call Blanc weak, a crybaby, or other such things, but there's no doubt even she has her limit and this shows it. Is it wrong to feel such a way, to want to be there to make sure nothing like Chapter 3 ever happens to her? Would I just come off as annoying and patronizing to such a sublime yet touchingly human goddess?
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>For two, if they wanted to humanize her, bring her down to earth in a sense, why did they have to do it this way? Surely there was some way that didn't involve breaking her to the point of tears.
Because most people couldn't see through to the vulnerability and insecurity she has without it. I could see it after playing HDN. In-between all the nastiness she showed to others, I eventually picked up on the more tender and vulnerable side beneath her shell, but you have to understand your average player doesn't look that deep into a character. They looked at her cold, often nasty exterior, and wrote her off as a bitch. Like I did when I first started to play the game, but I opened up to her after recruiting her and seeing more of what she was actually like. Unfortunately, to make it obvious enough, it had to be done this way. Any other way would have been out of character. She wouldn't magically open up to Neptune and Plutia, and she wasn't going to break until she hit the absolute rock bottom. I hate it, chapter 3 is always painful to replay for me, but I recognize the necessity for her reputation. She came out the other end better for it, better for herself, and more liked among the mouth breathers who honestly don't deserve her. But she deserves adoration.
>For three, what kind of fan do they think this will attract? Someone who couldn't appreciate her until they saw her reduced to a sobbing mess?
>I'll add to this that another thing the whole arc did for me was instill in me a very strong desire to protect and shield Blanc from all this.
This is what they intended, and it worked. A lot of the post-V Blancfags ended up too far in this direction, thinking more she was helpless and demure. See: Haru.
> and I start drawing links between this chapter and the seeming glut of sexual fan art that depicts Blanc being abused or humiliated, to the point it far outnumbers more "vanilla" portrayals.
Take it from someone who's been in the fandom for that long: That kind of material predates V entirely. From day 1 she was getting that kind of degenerate art. But then, ALL of the goddesses do. Blanc does not get it with any more frequency than any of the others. If you notice a disparity between her artwork and say, Neptune's or Noire's, well, the latter two simply have more artwork in general. But all the goddesses get degrading and degenerate lewd artwork. I think the fact that they're goddesses, women of power, naturally attracts this sort of thing. The male degenerate that wants to take them down a peg or three just for being powerful women. I don't usually play the feminism card, but there's an element of feminism to Neptunia that's inescapable. Thankfully not the manhating kind, at least. Regardless, I think you need to take a step back and realize this isn't an issue exclusive to Blanc.
>there's also the fact that the foremost villain is a fat, balding businessman clearly designed after the archetypal "ugly bastard" common in rape hentai.
The game makes it pretty clear no bad touching happened and later on the man himself states outright that he's happily married. You also need to understand the context of the Sages as V's antagonists. Most of them represent political or social entities that are critical of Japanese media. PTAs and the like. While likely intended to represent the business world's view at the time that video games were childish and wasteful, he's also just a play on the evil minister trope. That's his name in Japan, "Akudaijin" LITERALLY means "evil minister." His localized name could potentially be a reference to an anti-D&D organization, by the way.

As a side note, if you're curious at all, Abnes is a reference to Agnes Chan, an infamous UNICEF spokesperson in Japan that was, of course, outspoken against loli content.
>Yes, there is fan art, commissions even, of him raping her. It disgusts me!
Fortunately there's so little of that, a paltry amount, and a good percentage of it gated behind paywalls if I'm not mistaken. You gotta rehabilitate your brain because this was completely unintended by the devs, I'm sure of it.

>it's never acknowledged and all the blame for escalating the situation is placed on Blanc and Lowee
Pretty sure the game makes it very clear that it's all the Sages' fault. That you can even see it's their fault shows that was the intent. Noire's gonna be a petty cunt though, and Blanc has a strong sense of personal responsibility so of course she's going to own up to any wrongdoing. That said, I feel like it should be noted that Noire took her share of suffering. She had to be "serviced" by Iris Heart before she could work up the nerve to take the fight to Lowee. Honestly, Noire was pretty intelligent to want to avoid that confrontation. If even one of them were absent, Blanc would have kicked their asses. 
>But when it all goes down, it's BLANC who gets called arrogant!
Likely an attempt to commentate on Nintendo in the nineties, who at times acted like they owned the video game industry. You could also perceive her trust in the evil minister as a brand of arrogance, though I don't personally subscribe to that. What I DO have to acknowledge is that Blanc spent a very long time being the only goddess around and her reaction to competition held traces of arrogance. But it's only natural when you've ruled alone for so long. The message is supposed to be that friends keep you in check. Blanc gained friends, became a better person, and avoided becoming another Rei who didn't have any friends at all.
>Noire was thinking up a scheme to throw her allies including her long-time friend Plutia under the bus to take all the glory for herself. But she is never, ever called on her sheer arrogance and her role in the conflict
Nope, instead she's the butt monkey of the whole fucking game and it's great. Consider how until the very end people still call her a friendless loner. I'd say it's deserved, wouldn't you?
>If this is considered a retelling of the 90s console wars, then Compile Heart are making it VERY clear which camp they're in.
It's such an ungodly terrible retelling, too. As much as I like V's story, that's an inescapable fact. Yellow Heart is based off the PC Engine, or the Turbografx-16, which made a decent splash in Japan but never really bloodied Nintendo's nose. It was dead and buried long before the PS1 ever appeared. So her inclusion as Eden's puppet goddess overpowering everyone else combined was absolutely nonsensical.

>I'll add to this that another thing the whole arc did for me was instill in me a very strong desire to protect and shield Blanc from all this.
I started feeling something like that long before I ever played V. I want to shield her from everything that would hurt her. I think that's part of why I've become so much more possessive over the years. I find many Blancfags wanting. Fair weather fans. Haru is an excellent example, he dropped her the moment someone more suitable to his tastes appeared. And so I think pretty poorly of people who just ignore huge parts of Blanc's personality.
>And this desire caused them to overlook Blanc's "rougher" edges so they could fit that fantasy of her.
See, this shit really gets me. You don't NEED to overlook Blanc's personality to get that fantasy. You even have OPTIONS on how to fantasize about comforting her. You could have her at an emotional extreme, and be the one to be there for her. Or you could awaken to an insight about her, carefully nudge the issue, and have Blanc act so adorably reluctant, borderline tsundere, as she takes comfort in your arms. Goddamn it, there's nothing cuter than Blanc being herself!! And that's one of the many things that are so great about her! You can have the rough edges, the adorable grumpiness, and still have those tender moments with her, too. She WANTS to be loved!
>It makes me wonder if I'm having the "wrong" reaction, but I can't help what I feel. You'll never hear me call Blanc weak, a crybaby, or other such things, but there's no doubt even she has her limit and this shows it. Is it wrong to feel such a way, to want to be there to make sure nothing like Chapter 3 ever happens to her? Would I just come off as annoying and patronizing to such a sublime yet touchingly human goddess?
My honest opinion? I think it would hinge on being at the right place at the right time. If she didn't know you, never showed that side of herself to you, she'd probably find it to be extremely patronizing.

But I think, if it were me offering her comfort in that cell instead of Plutia, then we'd be closer to each other than we'd ever been. She'd probably tell me to avoid PDA, but otherwise we'd have bonded for life, assuming we could still spring her from prison and reclaim her nation.
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Look at all that text, though. I remember why I was so hesitant to reply originally, I really didn't want to split it into multiple posts. There goes another pro for sticking around here.
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Indeed, what a massive wall of text. Probably among the biggest I've ever seen. Some thoughts are already forming in my head, but I think I'll save replying to it all for tomorrow. This place may as well be /blancgen/ now.
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>>There's also another angle to this, and that is the clear raging hard-on Compile Heart have for Noire/PlayStation. 
On this part: I think CH and Japanese companies in general are starting to tone it down, but it took far too long and the damage the starstruck period Japan had with Sony in its current state has already been done. It would be nice if Japan's game devs as a whole would realize that none of these corpos value nationalistic identity at all and any one of them would abandon them for an American nickle, especially in this economy. Jury is still out on if Nintendo is going to be just as bad as Sony Computer Entertaiment was when it went international.
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>They looked at her cold, often nasty exterior, and wrote her off as a bitch.
I never did, but then again my introduction was VII and that was a post-V game.
>Unfortunately, to make it obvious enough, it had to be done this way. Any other way would have been out of character. She wouldn't magically open up to Neptune and Plutia
Not even gradually, like some situation where they cooperate on something? Would spending enough time around them to see they're not hostile, however such a situation might be contrived, not be enough?
>Take it from someone who's been in the fandom for that long: That kind of material predates V entirely. From day 1 she was getting that kind of degenerate art.
>Regardless, I think you need to take a step back and realize this isn't an issue exclusive to Blanc.
I can't help it when every time I open the Pixiv R18 page and see something Blanc-related, it's always something degenerate. Sure, the other goddesses get some too, but they also have a decent amount of more "vanilla" art to balance it out. I feel Blanc doesn't have that. And considering how I view Blanc and what she represents to me, it annoys me that much more. All I want is POV lovemaking, damn it!
 >The game makes it pretty clear no bad touching happened and later on the man himself states outright that he's happily married.
Yeah, I know, but he just fits the archetype a little too well for my tastes. Also, WAS happily married. He's a widower now.
>You also need to understand the context of the Sages as V's antagonists
I legitimately had no idea about this (aside from Rei) and just viewed them as a classic JRPG mini-boss squad. It makes me wonder (and hope) if Compile Heart will do something similar with the next mainline. Imagine the Seven Sages but now with Anita Sarkeesian, Jim Ryan, the GamerGate rogues gallery, Visa/Mastercard, with BlackRock/Larry Fink as its head. It could be one of the most hilarious and based games ever made.
>That said, I feel like it should be noted that Noire took her share of suffering. She had to be "serviced" by Iris Heart before she could work up the nerve to take the fight to Lowee.
Not anything close to what Blanc had to go through, and it's framed differently. N*ire was the subject of a gag. Blanc was being seriously criticized by the narrative. This trend continues throughout the game. N*ire may be ribbed on a few times, but she is never SERIOUSLY criticized and portrayed in the wrong like others are. Put another way, N*ire's "flaws" are meant to endear you to her. Blanc's are treated as serious character flaws that she needs to correct. And I'll reiterate that I don't think Iris Heart's "service" is as bad as some people seem to think it is. N*ire snapped out of whatever trance she was put in after only a few minutes and she continues with no long-term issues. Compare to Arfoire who Iris Heart DID seriously torture (and she deserved it). She was catatonic for a long-time afterwards and even after she recovered had lasting trauma to the point she couldn't even face Plutia any more. 
>What I DO have to acknowledge is that Blanc spent a very long time being the only goddess around and her reaction to competition held traces of arrogance.
I don't think so. Considering the nature of goddesses, and how she dedicated her existence to the growth and maintenance of Lowee, she was reacting to an existential threat. She did not care when Planeptune was founded. She only cared when N*ire and Lastation started leeching the lifeblood of her nation. Any real-life country's leader would likely react the same way. Even in spite of everything, she never seriously attempted to attack Lastation and only resorted to force when N*ire and her troupe broke into her castle with clear intention of conflict.
>Blanc gained friends, became a better person, and avoided becoming another Rei who didn't have any friends at all.
I don't think she was ever in any real danger of becoming like Rei. I'm collecting Rei's memories in Chapter 9 now, and the picture they paint shows that Rei's thoughts, the moment she acquired power and realized she had it, immediately turned to dominance, of imposing herself on others. She even states herself that this is her true nature. Blanc is not like that. She is not interested in dominating others. She's actually very insular. At one point, she outright states she cared little for what happened outside of Lowee until the events of Chapters 2 and 3. And at no point do I recall anyone ever calling her tyrannical or saying she was a poor ruler, they just might have found Lastation better or more "interesting". As much as I may fantasize about the idea of sweeping Gamindustri off its feet with her, Blanc is not the conquering type. Blanc is of stronger character and moral fiber than Rei was, and I think if anyone might have ever been in danger of becoming like Rei, it would have been either Plutia or N*ire.
>Consider how until the very end people still call her a friendless loner. I'd say it's deserved, wouldn't you?
Paltry compared to the rest of the game framing Lastation as the perfect nation and her as a perfect, benevolent ruler. Like I said, N*ire's flaws, if they're ever pointed out at all, are treated as a gag. They rarely, if ever have real consequences for her like Blanc and Vert.
>I started feeling something like that long before I ever played V.
Maybe I worded it poorly. It might be more accurate to say it sent those feelings into overdrive. I think part of why I had such a negative reaction to THAT scene in VII was because of said feelings. They took Blanc from me, brainwashed her, and made me fight her, all just to prop up a character I didn't like very much to begin with.
>and have Blanc act so adorably reluctant, borderline tsundere, as she takes comfort in your arms.
I assume this is related to the images you posted. To be frank, while Blanc acting in almost any way is going to be cute because it's Blanc, if it were me there, I might get just a bit frustrated at such a reaction. Remember how I said I'm a firm advocate of saying what you mean? And that one of the things I like about Blanc is that she speaks her mind? Well, even if it's just because she's flustered and inexperienced, seeing her act like that, act like N*ire, may annoy me just a bit. I want her to speak her mind. I want to hear the words. Don't give me the runaround, I've always hated that. 
>But I think, if it were me offering her comfort in that cell instead of Plutia, then we'd be closer to each other than we'd ever been
Alas, I do not think I am good at offering words of comfort. My idea was to be there when Mr. Badd summons the soldiers, saying she has no followers left. Well then, if there are none, what am I? And I would, through true faith as her only follower to not have abandoned her, gave her just enough share energy to transform and fly away to regroup while I alone deal with the army of traitors. I may win. I may get captured. I may even die, but I don't mind too much if it was for Blanc.

All this took over an hour to type out. Holy shit!
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And now that my behemoth reply is out of the way:
Happy Easter, /nepgen/! I only wish our other friends were here to enjoy and celebrate with us.
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>Jury is still out on if Nintendo is going to be just as bad as Sony Computer Entertaiment was when it went international.
There is evidence of an Assassin's Creed Shadows release on Switch 2. If that is true, it's pretty much the final nail in the coffin for Nintendo as a Japanese company. No one that cares about Japan or being Japanese would want to be involved with such a blatant middle finger to Japan and its history and culture.
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Happy Easter.
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>>7606
>I never did, but then again my introduction was VII and that was a post-V game.
Yeah, I started with HDN and things were a bit different. It was hard to warm up to her rougher edges when she was being so aggressively mean towards Neptune and the party, but that was my fault for not considering her position. There's a boatload of optional scenes that unlock once you recruit her, and they really go a long way to fleshing her out and showing off her more endearing qualities. Guess what RB1 lacks?
>Not even gradually, like some situation where they cooperate on something? Would spending enough time around them to see they're not hostile, however such a situation might be contrived, not be enough?
Noire would have killed that situation, assuming the same hostile dynamic between her and Blanc existed. Aside from that, Blanc would have never directly spoken about her insecurities or vulnerabilities in any other situation. Even if she grew to accept the other goddesses over time, okay, you've written a story where Blanc accepts the other goddesses, not a story where the fans too stupid to read between the lines accept her for who she is. And that's what I mean there, that plotline was written for people too thick headed to see what was already there without it spilling out in tears.
>I can't help it when every time I open the Pixiv R18 page and see something Blanc-related, it's always something degenerate.
You would be experiencing the same thing if you were looking up the other goddesses, too. Hell, oftentimes these degenerate artists are doing the whole set and Blanc just got caught up due to being one of the main four.
>but they also have a decent amount of more "vanilla" art to balance it out.
Your perception is skewed. Neptune and Noire each have nearly twice the amount of fanart that Blanc does, so of course they get more vanilla through sheer numbers.
>Yeah, I know, but he just fits the archetype a little too well for my tastes.
Be honest with me, do you consume a lot of hentai?
>Imagine the Seven Sages but now with Anita Sarkeesian, Jim Ryan, the GamerGate rogues gallery, Visa/Mastercard, with BlackRock/Larry Fink as its head. It could be one of the most hilarious and based games ever made.
It'd be a fun idea, but I see two problems with that. One, CH works from a Japanese lens, and while Japan is well aware of the west trying to influence their culture, they won't be familiar with the same names and faces we are. The other issue is that, as V goes on, most of the Sages experience a redemption of sorts. Even if one of them doesn't deserve it. Even Arfoire and Warechu become more humanized through their reluctant friendship with each other. Another Sages-esque organization filled with unrepentant culture warriors would only yield unfavorable comparisons to the original group.
>Not anything close to what Blanc had to go through, and it's framed differently. N*ire was the subject of a gag.
I feel like you underestimate the power of satire. For starters, the overall opinion of western fans about V's cast is that they're very mean spirited. This includes Noire. Some even joke about them being evil versions of the goddesses, although I do not agree with that interpretation. For better or worse, Noire gets dunked on constantly, and the game spells out pretty clearly that she deserves it. Contrast with Nepgear's treatment in the very same game. Everyone hated the way Nepgear got treated. Even I found myself feeling sorry for her, and I don't even like her. But that's because Nepgear is generally a very nice girl by default. Her only crime was being a boring protagonist. That didn't warrant shitting on her relentlessly, so players generally reacted a lot more negatively to her treatment than Noire's.
>And I'll reiterate that I don't think Iris Heart's "service" is as bad as some people seem to think it is. N*ire snapped out of whatever trance she was put in after only a few minutes and she continues with no long-term issues. Compare to Arfoire who Iris Heart DID seriously torture (and she deserved it). She was catatonic for a long-time afterwards and even after she recovered had lasting trauma to the point she couldn't even face Plutia any more.
I'm sure Iris Heart did hold back a bit for her friends, but I'll point out a few things. One, while the sexual nature of her torture is grossly exaggerated, Iris Heart's punishments still tend to be violent, and if not violent then something outright soul crushing. Two, Noire has been dealing with it for years since Plutia became a goddess. She was among her first victims, and clearly her most frequent, and with that comes being used to it to a degree. She's more likely to snap back faster than someone like Arfoire. There's also the perspective of being her friend and ally vs her enemy. Noire is still terrified of Iris Heart, but she knows she can count on her to fight by her side as an ally. Unlike Arfoire who knows that Iris Heart only means death for her.
>she was reacting to an existential threat
There is no existential thread to a goddess in the ultradimension. Without followers they just can't transform. They're still immortal. Even if you want to argue that her nation was under threat, Blanc herself admitted she was kind of thrust into the role of nation builder without any choice in the matter. 
>She did not care when Planeptune was founded.
Because Planeptune was no competition. Have you actually seen how dismal Sega's sales numbers were in Japan?
There's another piece of context, by the way. Lowee's decline was meant to mirror a steep decline in fortunes in Japan. While the N64 actually did solid numbers in North America, in Japan it struggled to break 5m units. Was beaten by the Saturn which only barely broke 5m units. And the PS1 blew both of them away by far. You have to understand, the 5th and 6th console generations--the N64 and Gamecube--were really rough times for Nintendo and they were the golden age for Playstation. That's the historical context.
>Any real-life country's leader would likely react the same way.
And they would be called arrogant by their critics, too.
>I don't think she was ever in any real danger of becoming like Rei.
The game makes the comparison itself, and although I don't think she'd be EXACTLY like Rei, I do see what they were getting at. All it would take is one really bad day where her people turn on her to have a repeat of Tari's fall. Blanc has the temper for it, and other titles have shown that citizens who break the law or commit treason are not under her protection.
>And at no point do I recall anyone ever calling her tyrannical
The game could do better about this, but there are a few scant references to tyrannical policies. One of the nepstation segments references content bans in Lowee, for starters. That's inherently tyrannical. I don't recall if it was explicitly referenced or not, but Nintendo also used to have a policy that publishers on their platform weren't allowed to port their games to other platforms. Enforced exclusivity sounds pretty tyrannical for Gamindustri even if I think she deserves it. Once more there's a historical context at play even if CH might've failed to communicate it.
>Blanc is not the conquering type.
No, but she takes feelings of inadequacy very poorly, and when people are flocking away from her nation to her new competition, that makes her feel VERY inadequate.
>Blanc is of stronger character and moral fiber than Rei was
Agreed, I think what they were getting at with the comparison was simply that she might've triggered Lowee's fall in a rage. I think she would have processed it differently than Rei. Taken more personal responsibility. Rei turned around and blamed her position instead of herself. The Sages were founded on the idea that the goddess system was inherently flawed.
>framing Lastation as the perfect nation and her as a perfect, benevolent ruler.
An industrial hellhole is far from perfect, and Noire herself was hinted to be kind of a distant and strict ruler. Here's a fun fact, for the first few years of the PS1's life, Sony wouldn't games with purely 2D elements to be published in the west. Everything had to have 3D elements to try and wow the gaijin.
>I think part of why I had such a negative reaction to THAT scene in VII was because of said feelings.
There's several points in VII that bother me. Hell, just the gold third arc where the goddesses are defeated and stripped of their position makes me feel sick.
>I assume this is related to the images you posted.
Somewhat. Fanart isn't perfect, but it's as close as I can get.
>Well, even if it's just because she's flustered and inexperienced, seeing her act like that, act like N*ire
I said "borderline" tsundere, not outright.
>I want her to speak her mind. I want to hear the words. Don't give me the runaround, I've always hated that. 
She will speak her mind. But it will be in-between blushing, stammering, and cursing, all of which are quite furious. It's peak Blanc. That said, there's still her official confession line.
>I... like you... I... love you...
All we have to go by is her voice but I'd bet a lot of money she'd be wearing the cutest grumpy face while forcing out those words.

Remember that she doesn't want to risk getting hurt.
>spoiler
Well, I said before I try to keep my fantasies a little more "grounded." I cannot see myself facing down an entire squadron of soldiers with any semblance of success. I also imagine my loyalty might've been picked up on beforehand and therefor I'd have been assigned elsewhere when the coup was scheduled. But on the slightly less grounded side of things, I did picture waging a guerilla war in the basilicom in an attempt to free her only to be crushed by the minister's mech. Chapter 3 otherwise happens normally, although the act would have at least caught Blanc's attention and gotten my foot in the door...
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>Noire would have killed that situation, assuming the same hostile dynamic between her and Blanc existed.
You only mentioned Neptune and Plutia, so I only considered them.
>Aside from that, Blanc would have never directly spoken about her insecurities or vulnerabilities in any other situation
Ugh, fine, I get it. This was necessary from Compile Heart's perspective. Doesn't mean I have to like it or think it was necessary. I don't know why they felt they needed to boost Blanc's popularity anyway. They already have their little pet in N*ire. If you were to ask me how I would have tried to do it, I would have had them visit Lowee and meet Blanc BEFORE N*ire became a goddess and founded Lastation. And then wrote a situation that would allow them to interact and befriend Blanc, and from there start learning more about her, including how she runs her country and how she feels about it and why she does what she does. Though I suppose this begs the question of what happens after Lastation is founded. Regardless of any prior relationship, Blanc will not take kindly to losing so much of her shares in such a short timeframe.
>Your perception is skewed
No, I'm pretty sure I'm weighing proportions and Blanc definitely seems to get a higher proportion of it than other goddesses. 
>Be honest with me, do you consume a lot of hentai?
Probably not as much as you're thinking. I have probably less than 10 Neptunia doujins saved, and probably only around 20 overall. And I rarely read them. I prefer to look at risque art and form my own scenarios in my head. And I hate ugly bastard hentai, in case you were reading me completely wrong.
>One, CH works from a Japanese lens, and while Japan is well aware of the west trying to influence their culture, they won't be familiar with the same names and faces we are.
Yeah, I figured as much. I wonder what the rogues gallery over there looks like nowadays.
>Another Sages-esque organization filled with unrepentant culture warriors would only yield unfavorable comparisons to the original group.
Would it really? The whole point is to give a cathartic asskicking to all the enemies of gaming and otakudom. Would ANYONE who plays these games who isn't a faggy tourist subverter object to that? No one seriously wants to redeem Anita Sarkeesian, Jim Ryan or Larry Fink, they just want to bash their faces in.
>For starters, the overall opinion of western fans about V's cast is that they're very mean spirited. This includes Noire.
They forget that they're playing a game about console wars. And Victory/Re;Birth 3 just reemphasized that aspect after it was pushed to the background for Mk2.
>For better or worse, Noire gets dunked on constantly, and the game spells out pretty clearly that she deserves it.
She gets some jokes and ribs tossed her way and that's it. She never goes through the same sort of humiliation that Blanc and Vert get. 
>Everyone hated the way Nepgear got treated
I didn't. Nepgear has no business being a lead, and it's nice to see the writers agree with me for once. Now if only they could have followed their own advice. 
>Iris Heart
I simply state that I do not believe she is as cruel and unhinged as you and others seem to think, for the simple reason that if she actually did harm her friends in any way with her "service", well, they wouldn't be her friends.
>Blanc herself admitted she was kind of thrust into the role of nation builder without any choice in the matter. 
I don't think it's said that anyone who becomes a goddess HAS to found a nation. Histoire says it's just one of the perks of being a goddess. I believe Blanc pored over the history books and decided that founding a nation was what newly born CPUs should do. Either that, or it happened naturally as people looked to her as a symbol of order and stability in the chaos of Tari's fall.
>And they would be called arrogant by their critics, too.
Critics can be wrong.
>All it would take is one really bad day where her people turn on her to have a repeat of Tari's fall. 
Again, I find this hard to believe. From the very start of her reign as goddess, Rei viewed her subjects as nothing more than extensions of herself. They OWED her, they lived to serve her. So when they turned on her, it was only a given her reaction would be to destroy them as they no longer served what she viewed as their purpose. Blanc is not like that. From the start, she worked her ass off for the sake of building Lowee for its people. She did not have such a selfish mindset like Rei. She did not build Lowee purely as an extension of herself to feed her ego. She is not a tyrant. Rei was, objectively, from the start.
>One of the nepstation segments references content bans in Lowee, for starters.
That was after, and implied to be in reaction to, Yellow Heart.
>No, but she takes feelings of inadequacy very poorly, and when people are flocking away from her nation to her new competition, that makes her feel VERY inadequate.
And yet she still didn't actually invade Lastation and only fought when its goddess literally kicked her door down demanding a fight. Rei would likely have immediately proceeded to open warfare because everyone exists to serve her, and if not, they must die.
>An industrial hellhole is far from perfect
At no point is Lastation ever implied to be a hell hole. "Industrialized" does not inherently mean "hellhole". It's how it's portrayed, and nothing in the story says Lastation has any cyberpunk-esque problems.
>Here's a fun fact
Nothing like that is mentioned in the story. My friend, Compile Heart still dickrides S*ny even after they got raped by them personally without lube. I don't think any criticisms of Playstation apply here even if valid.
>Hell, just the gold third arc where the goddesses are defeated and stripped of their position makes me feel sick.
It's cushioned a lot by being able to play from Blanc's perspective and help her reclaim what she lost. Versus V/Re;Birth 3 where I feel like an unwilling participant in her downfall.
>She will speak her mind. But it will be in-between blushing, stammering, and cursing, all of which are quite furious.
It may confuse and frustrate me still. But I think I can accept it if it's Blanc. And maybe find it just as cute as you do.
>Remember that she doesn't want to risk getting hurt.
If anyone would be likely to get hurt, it'd be me. Particularly if I end up (mis)interpreting her when she tries to express her feelings.
>I cannot see myself facing down an entire squadron of soldiers with any semblance of success. I also imagine my loyalty might've been picked up on beforehand and therefor I'd have been assigned elsewhere when the coup was scheduled.
You seem to be imagining yourself as a normal, powerless human. I like to believe I'd at least be on the level of an average Maker (And not part of the army, but more of an independent third-party). Which obviously wouldn't be enough to take on Mr. Badd's mech suit which could face four CPUs at once. But there's the possibility of sabotaging it before it can be deployed or simply incapacitating Mr. Badd before he can board it.
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>>7611
>You only mentioned Neptune and Plutia, so I only considered them.
V would be a very different story without Noire.
>spoiler
Would have been closer to the real life history. Sony and Nintendo had a working relationship that started with the Super Famicom's sound chip. Allegedly it was Ken Kutaragi who approached both his bosses and Nintendo with the idea after looking at the Famicom's sound chip and saying "I can do way better than this." And then you know about the whole Playstation/SFC disc system. I'm glad CH didn't go this route because they'd have just parroted the false narrative that Nintendo betrayed Sony, while the reality was that Sony was going straight for Nintendo's throat on royalties.
>No
I still say your perception is skewed, the other goddesses get it just as bad. Hell, I may not like his work, but Haru really skewed Blanc's doujins in favor of vanilla while certain other girls have a lot of degenerate shit skewing their doujins.
>Probably not as much as you're thinking.
That sounds like you consume more than I do, which is kinda what I was getting at. I dunno, not everything is supposed to resemble degenerate porn. I really don't think that was the intention at all.
>Would it really?
As a well written group of characters, yes. The Sages are some of the most multi-faceted antagonists in the franchise and it's a wonder they managed to make seven of them work. If you ever finish the anime you might actually get frustrated how they turned Rei into a mustache twirling pure evil villain instead of an otherwise nice person grappling with some deep seated personal demons.
>She gets some jokes and ribs tossed her way and that's it. She never goes through the same sort of humiliation that Blanc and Vert get. 
Anonydeath, for starters. Or how about being the designated landing pad for falling goddesses? Look, I know it never gets as serious as it did for Blanc, but Noire is still the game's butt monkey and that's a humiliation in of itself. And I still argue against Blanc being humiliated because anyone with a brain can tell the whole situation wasn't her fault. Again, that's why chapter 3 changed a lot of minds on her character.
>I didn't. Nepgear has no business being a lead
I agree she's a terrible lead, but I don't think that means she deserves the butt monkey treatment. She's too nice for that. Unfortunately "nice girl" is a rather poor personality for a lead in this franchise. Nepgear is a manifestation of CH's desire to take Neptunia beyond the silliness and fun that made it a success to begin with.
>I simply state that I do not believe she is as cruel and unhinged as you and others seem to think, for the simple reason that if she actually did harm her friends in any way with her "service", well, they wouldn't be her friends.
I never said she's unhinged, just that she has a violent streak. The whole cast fears her and it's not just a gag. The sexual aspect is absolutely just a gag, but clearly Iris Heart knows how to bring some kind of punishment. I wonder how many times she's deleted Nep's saves.
>I don't think it's said that anyone who becomes a goddess HAS to found a nation.
I think people just tend to flock to goddesses for protection. I could be wrong here, but I could swear one of the things that remained consistent is that a goddess's land had protection from monsters so living under a goddess is generally desirable. Like barrier blastia if you've ever played Tales of Vesperia. All that aside, there's still the fact that Blanc herself said in no uncertain terms that she didn't choose the goddess life, that she found herself in the nation building business very suddenly and without much of a clue to go on. Likely why she chose to delegate to begin with.
>They OWED her
It's not a very far leap in mindset from "I never asked for this position" to "they owe me their worship." On a very, very bad alternate path, Blanc could easily decide that she's owed loyalty after giving up a normal life to build a nation for those people. She could see Lastation defectors as traitors abandoning her, and let's say she decides to legislate in that direction, then she gets rioters and her own people turning on her, and then... you know the rest. It's a worst case scenario and it would have taken time to boil up to that point, but it's a path that could easily have happened to her if she continued to walk alone.

To put it another way, you don't need to share Rei's megalomania in order to share her fate. There are many ways to reach the same unfortunate conclusion.
>That was after
Poorly placed, but still a reference to Nintendo's real life policies. Either way, content bans generally lean towards the side of tyranny, anyways. It's good that you've made peace with Blanc's unfortunate decision, too, but I'm still going to call it as I see it.
>And yet she still didn't actually invade Lastation and only fought when its goddess literally kicked her door down demanding a fight.
She went over to Lastation herself and nearly picked a fight. Thankfully she realized it was a poor idea at the time and backed away, but that still happened. Even if the entire situation reeked of Sages fuckery.
>At no point is Lastation ever implied to be a hell hole. "Industrialized" does not inherently mean "hellhole". It's how it's portrayed, and nothing in the story says Lastation has any cyberpunk-esque problems.
Why does it have to be "cyberpunk-esque" to be a hellhole? Overindustrialized cities are terrible places to live in general. The air is filthy, pollution is everywhere, everyone below upper-middle class is huddled into close quarters dwellings where disease spreads like wildfire, wages are dogshit, inflation is 1000x worse because you have masses upon masses of other people in your immediate vicinity competing for literally every resource, and your pay and hours are shit because there's no regulation stopping your bosses from bending you over the table and taking you for everything you've got. Does the game ever go into any of these details? No, of course not, but Lastation is the industrialized hell of Gamindustri, where profit and progress come at the expense of everything else. Their shitty goddess overworks herself and expects her followers to do the same. Which I guess breaks the narrative even more, who the fuck would want to live in Lastation over Lowee?
>Nothing like that is mentioned in the story.
Well yeah it was a strictly western policy that Japan never had to deal with save those like Capcom who were already making plans to bring their games westward.
>It's cushioned a lot
I hate it all, man. I hate watching Blanc put low under any circumstance. It's heartbreaking. I know I've defended chapter 3, and I still do, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. The gold third arc is on the low end of the spectrum of this shit, and I only brought it up to say this shit really gets to me, too.
>It may confuse and frustrate me still.
I don't see how if it's just Blanc being Blanc, if I'm honest. I'm sorry.
>If anyone would be likely to get hurt, it'd be me. Particularly if I end up (mis)interpreting her when she tries to express her feelings.
I was just giving you her perspective on why she'd behave that way. You should really play HDN one of these days. Yes, Blanc is often direct, but still she'll hide her true feelings behind a facade if she's embarrassed about them. Histoire worded it as she would say the opposite of what she means, although that isn't strictly the case. Blanc's recruitment in HDN was a mess.
>You seem to be imagining yourself as a normal, powerless human.
True. But my fantasies also have a policy of minimal canon interference, because that's my brand of autism.
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I just want another Nep game that isn't bad and is a bit ecchi. Why is this so hard?
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>>7612
>I think people just tend to flock to goddesses for protection. I could be wrong here, but I could swear one of the things that remained consistent is that a goddess's land had protection from monsters so living under a goddess is generally desirable. 
I think that the concept of an unwilling goddess who has followers despite herself could be really funny.
Also IIRC the only truly horrible Lastation incarnation is Superdimension, where it is almost all industry and smoke. UD and HD Lastations seem a bit more livable, like comparing New Delhi to merely Shenzen.
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>>7616
I wonder if anyone has drawn Easter Histy or bunnysuit Histy.
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>>7612
>Anonydeath, for starters
Actually helps my point. N*ire's designated Seven Sages antagonist literally simps for her.
>And I still argue against Blanc being humiliated
She was humiliated so badly she lost all of her followers and thrown into a cell to rot. She looks back on the entire incident with guilt and shame. That sounds like humiliation to me.
>Nepgear is a manifestation of CH's desire to take Neptunia beyond the silliness and fun that made it a success to begin with.
There is no reason Neptune can't do that too, especially if she stops compartmentalizing her "business side" in Purple Heart. And do it better than Nepgear, while still whipping out the comedy when appropriate. Nepgear needs to stay as a side character.
>I wonder how many times she's deleted Nep's saves.
See, that's the kind of thing that's probably happening here. It's then played up for a gag. If she were actually mean and cruel, no one would be her friend. But N*ire is, her best friend even.
>Like Barrier Blastia
I have played Tales of Vesperia, although it was a while ago. I'm pretty sure that physically keeps monsters out. Versus a goddess likely using her newfound powers to exterminate monsters in an area to create a "safe zone" which then becomes a country over time. I don't think they literally project an anti-monster barrier constantly.
>All that aside, there's still the fact that Blanc herself said in no uncertain terms that she didn't choose the goddess life
Like I said, people likely gathered around her over time for protection and stability in the wake of Tari's fall.
>On a very, very bad alternate path, Blanc could easily decide that she's owed loyalty after giving up a normal life to build a nation for those people. She could see Lastation defectors as traitors abandoning her, and let's say she decides to legislate in that direction, then she gets rioters and her own people turning on her
I think Blanc is generally too humble for that. And the reason for the riots and rebellion in Tari was pretty clearly (to me) that it was a terrible place to live since Rei likely didn't bother to try and raise the QOL as she was convinced that everyone there should be grateful just for her existence. In other words, she neglected Tari until it went to hell. By contrast, Blanc is active in the building and maintenance of her nation, and Lowee is by all evidence considered a good place to live. And if she was going to legislate against Lastation emigres, she likely would have done so by the time she lost half of her population to Lastation. 
>It's good that you've made peace with Blanc's unfortunate decision, too, but I'm still going to call it as I see it.
If you're referring to what I think you are, not really. I think there's a strong distinction between Nintendo's policies in the 90s and what they're doing now. The former was a set of clear guidelines meant to maintain a specific, family-friendly image. Nintendo of the 90s would not just have rejected these niche weeb games, but also stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3 and all the AI Hentai slop without hesitation. On-brand for them (even if they stopped eventually and became actually better than S*ny for most of their existence), and in-character for Blanc who reacts poorly to lascivious conduct and is a friend to children. Banning niche weeb games with even mild ecchi and bust sliders while also allowing shit like Cyberpunk with dick sliders, AI furshit, and other assorted, far worse degeneracy? Something fishy is going on there. That shit is far more harmful to children than a bit of mild anime ecchi.**
>Does the game ever go into any of these details? No, of course not, but Lastation is the industrialized hell of Gamindustri, where profit and progress come at the expense of everything else
And I'm telling you it's never portrayed like this in the games. That's just your view of it (and mine too), but we're talking about how the game portrays it, not our own interpretations.
>I don't see how if it's just Blanc being Blanc, if I'm honest. I'm sorry.
I was simply saying how I might react if I were personally there. I know she's simply guarded and doesn't want to risk getting heartbroken. I'm the same way. If anything, I'd be worse. I can hardly even imagine how I could possibly approach someone like Blanc. But it'd still be inherently a bit frustrating to see someone stammer while trying to say something important.
>>7616
Good to see you here finally. Behold our new home, an entire board for ourselves. No annoying captchas (most of the time at least), no powertripping jannies, 50 MB filesize limit, up to 5 files in total, support for more file types including with sound, and isn't shitting itself constantly like 8chan moe. Welcome to paradise.
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>>7612
Oh wait, I forgot this.
>She went over to Lastation herself and nearly picked a fight. Thankfully she realized it was a poor idea at the time and backed away, but that still happened
She flew over to Lastation's border and patiently waited as the guard processed her through Immigration and Customs. That doesn't seem like the actions of a serious invader if you ask me. If she was actually serious, she would have just crushed the guard and showed up at Lastation's basilicom like N*ire did with her. It seems more like she just got flustered and stormed over to Lastation's border in a fit before realizing what she's doing and turning around to go home before N*ire showed up. If she actually wanted to pick a fight, she would have done so right then and there. Like I said, even with how upset she was at losing so much shares, I don't think Blanc wanted war with Lastation. N*ire was more of a war monger than her considering she literally invaded her castle.
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>>7620
Ah, fuck. I forgot the spoiler asterisks at the end there in that one paragraph. Oh well, a bit late to fix it now.
>>7613
Well, the former is probably because they wanted to work on something else as well as VII being a fitting sendoff and the latter is because a lot of console manufacturers/PC storefronts are growing increasingly hostile towards ecchi content.
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>>7619
Cute.
>>7620
While /nepgen/ was never fast or shitposted enough to really attract any janny attention (nowadays). Other threads really do benefit from less trigger happy jannies and being small enough that anyone there cares enough to contribute meaningfully rather than shitpost for quick (You)s.
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>>7620
>Actually helps my point.
Counterpoint: Simping Noire is canonically a negative and she's known to attract weirdos and trannies.
>That sounds like humiliation to me.
If you want to keep it strictly in universe, sure. But everyone with an objective view of the situation knows it's not her fault. And thank goodness she didn't have to suffer repeated humiliation. Noire gets hers spread out through the whole game.
>There is no reason Neptune can't do that too
I agree, it's CH who wants to discard humor entirely to make super serious and dark stories.
>See, that's the kind of thing that's probably happening here.
I mean deleting your saves is a pretty cruel and soul crushing punishment. Especially since Nep likes to play JRPGs.
>But N*ire is, her best friend even.
Noire is also depicted as desperate and friendless. Repeatedly. To this day. Unless you have a good idea of what would make her go catatonic without something genuinely traumatizing, I'd say there's an argument she might be tolerating some abuse just to keep the one friendship going.
>spoiler 1
It was established in HDN that goddesses provide passive protection to their nations by simply existing. Which is why Blanc was the only one actively hunting monsters since she cared more than the others. That's the Barrier Blastia comparison. It probably didn't carry over to mk2 or V, but I thought it was worth mentioning since monsters generally seem to stay away from population centers in the games. Unless of course there's a crisis.
>Like I said, people likely gathered around her over time for protection and stability in the wake of Tari's fall.
That doesn't change the objective fact that Blanc was thrust into the role without a choice. Again, she said so herself. There's no getting around that.
>I think Blanc is generally too humble for that.
Being the only goddess in town will breed a degree of arrogance in anyone. You know what they say about absolute power.
>By contrast, Blanc is active in the building and maintenance of her nation, and Lowee is by all evidence considered a good place to live.
With strict rules and a vision that much of the population didn't agree with. I never said she was exactly like Rei, only that the game made it clear she was set for the same fate if she continued on alone. People were unhappy with her rule and that's an unfortunate fact. Ingrates.
>Nintendo of the 90s would not just have rejected these niche weeb games, but also stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3 and all the AI Hentai slop without hesitation.
Even back then Nintendo was making exceptions for big IPs. There's several Mortal Kombat games on the SNES. First was censored to hell but the others kept the blood and gore. Fucking Doom had a SNES port and that game was gory as hell for its day. And mind you Nintendo didn't truly lift content restrictions until sometime in the N64's life.

It really sucks but so much shit can get passed the censors if there's enough people interested in it. Which makes these content policies more tantamount to bullying, I guess.
>Something fishy is going on there.
The promise of large sales.
>And I'm telling you it's never portrayed like this in the games.
HDN and RB1 both feature Lastation in crisis because a giant megacorp is swallowing up the whole nation and putting everyone else in destitute conditions.
>I can hardly even imagine how I could possibly approach someone like Blanc.
Lucky for me I'm rather impulsive and opportunistic which has helped me get into my share of relationships with women. All before Blanc stole my heart, of course.
>>7621
>She flew over to Lastation's border and patiently waited as the guard processed her through Immigration and Customs. That doesn't seem like the actions of a serious invader if you ask me.
Well no, she had time to reconsider between the flight and waiting. I think her intent was to knock Noire down as a figurehead, not wage war on the people. One thing about Gamindustri's politics that seem clear is that full scale war isn't really necessary. Knock down the figurehead and their followers will convert. Blanc got enraged, intended to kick Noire's ass, and she lost steam and confidence through all the time it took to get anywhere. A shame, since chapter 3 makes it pretty clear a 1v1 would have ended with Noire getting curb stomped.
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>>7624
I got janny'd once for rebuking a Nyamotaposter. He was clearly doing it just to provoke me or the other Blancbro, too. Yet I was banned while he was untouched. It was like some fucking elementary/middle school bullshit. Another time for posting second pic related like I posted loli hentai even though it's a console game CG, on the Nintendo Switch at that (although that was in /v/). Yeah, I don't have much reason to bat for the jannies. They got what they deserved.
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>>7627
I told many Nyamota posters to kill themselves, yeah. What I usually got banned for was making the waifu threads, or going "off topic". And when the 3 days passed, suddenly my IP would be hit with stuff like "proxy or VPN" or "spamming" even when its a notorious spammer somehow using my ISP's IP range somehow.
By the end posting on 4chan was absolutely painful, the only threads I kept visiting were Nepgen and waifu due to my passion for Neptune. I spent more time cleaning out cookies, using fake emails and resetting IPs than I did browsing or posting. Who even moderates this place? Are they still even around?
My only regret is that I wasn't able to post about me finishing Mary Skelter 2 on /nepgen/. Because I haven't finished it yet.
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if so small and cute, why so mean to nepnep?
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>>7627
In all fairness, I think those Mugen Souls CGs were always a ban risk. At a glance many of them look explicit and you can't count on 4chan mods to do their jobs properly.
>>7629
You will never catch me saying my wife deserves it! Nep just needs a little kick on the right direction to remind her how much she cares about Planeptune.
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>>7628
I contemplated ban-evading a couple times just because I was incensed at what they banned me for. But I decided both times that eating the 3 days was better because it's just 3 days and if I ban evade, I'll probably be obvious because I was a pretty prominent poster in /nepgen/. I found this site and the other during one of my vacations. Thankfully, they did not hound me like they did you. I assume you are enjoying your waifu threads not being persecuted by jannies?
>Who even moderates this place? Are they still even around?
I asked something like this on the /meta/ board. The admin told me to just let the global mods handle any spam issues by global reporting it.
>>7631
Me neither. In fact, it's why I don't like Histoire. I really feel like she doesn't give Neptune any credit for what she does, just what she doesn't do (that Histoire is arguably supposed to be there to do anyway).
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>>7632
8 moe is better, even if the threads for some other games I like haven't showed up or are rather slow. But better than having them fall off the board because we need 5 million AC Shadows threads or whatever, not sure what the latest controversy is.
>I really feel like she doesn't give Neptune any credit for what she does, just what she doesn't do (that Histoire is arguably supposed to be there to do anyway).
I guess we hardly get a glimps into the "normal" times, since they aren't really fun to write about in the manga or games. At least in the Nep-nep festival OVA she does support Neptune when she does work a lot, and in general she seems to have an overall positive appreciation of of Neptune. She did ultimately choose to (VII spoilers here) [spoiler]grab Neptune first over the more hard working Nepgear from the Zerodimension in VII.[/spoiler] A lot of it is just the writers not giving Nep her due rather than just Histy being a hardass 100% of the time. She has it within her to be sweet to the Nep sisters too.
Haven't played it in a while but she's also supportive of Nepgear while her big sis isn't there in mk2 and SVS
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>>7633
>8 moe is better, even if the threads for some other games I like haven't showed up or are rather slow
The site has been slow and prone to network errors the last few days, the captchas are getting extremely annoying, and Mark literally won't let me talk about certain things in /v/, not even the GamerGate thread. All it has really going for it is that most of the 4Chan exodus ended up there, so their activity is higher. Which is both good and bad depending on your perspective.
>But better than having them fall off the board because we need 5 million AC Shadows threads or whatever, not sure what the latest controversy is.
I heard a thread has to go all the way to page 50 to be archived, and there aren't even enough threads for that yet. There should be very little danger of anything you like falling off the board. As another plus, it means you don't have to make empty "bump" posts just to keep the thread from dying. But this site and its webring have those perks as well.
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>>7635
Well we've somehow raised /nep/ all the way back to 7 PPH, praise be the goddesses. Well, nobody has posted Noire or Vert yet but praise nonetheless.

Ultimately, yeah, there won't ever be such a thing as a perfect site, At least this has shown us what could be improved at halfchan, should it ever come back online (I'm giving it 50/50 chances that too much staff pulled out at this point). I can understand why they''d turn the captcha on but I can't understand why it has to be the worst possible on (on 8ch).
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>Counterpoint: Simping Noire is canonically a negative 
Please take a look at how Lastation is portrayed in-game and reassess. Yes, Anonydeath is a creep and they were probably ribbing on the "average N*irefag" with him, but said average N*irefags are/were many and I doubt they'd alienate such a large base of people. It's like thinking CH hates otakus because of the Super Otaku enemy.
>And thank goodness she didn't have to suffer repeated humiliation.
Agreed, but Chapter 3 was so devastating as a Blancfag that it still burns even a while after.
>Noire gets hers spread out through the whole game.
All gags. Add it all up and it won't equal a fraction of what Blanc had to go through in Chapter 3.
>I mean deleting your saves is a pretty cruel and soul crushing punishment.
As a kid, I did it to my mom's Animal Crossing save on Gamecube. She gives me shit for it even now.
>Noire is also depicted as desperate and friendless. Repeatedly. To this day. 
I don't know why I have to keep stressing this. It's a gag. Her "loner" shtick is meant to endear you to her. While Blanc had to have hers violently broken out of her. Regarding Iris Heart, if she had done anything that N*ire took as a serious offense, then the moment N*ire became a goddess and could face her as an equal, she could have cut her off. She didn't and kept viewing her as a friend and even let her crash in Lastation. She could have easily told her no if she didn't want to, and she had far more shares than Planeptune by that point, so don't say she couldn't fight Iris Heart if she wanted to.
>It was established in HDN
Small wonder it was forgotten, then. Just like CH forgot that game the moment they could.
>That doesn't change the objective fact that Blanc was thrust into the role without a choice. Again, she said so herself.
My point was that she went into it with an entirely different mindset than Rei's.
>Being the only goddess in town will breed a degree of arrogance in anyone.
Sorry, but I just can't see the arrogance in Blanc's actions. Most real-life leaders in a similar situation would have reacted similarly. If anything, she was fairly restrained during the whole ordeal.
>With strict rules and a vision that much of the population didn't agree with. 
The game doesn't even allude to this until later. The sticking criticism of Lowee until then is that they are "outdated" compared to Lastation. And yet when Vert goes there, she calls it the technological capital of Gamindustri. Which is it, Compa?
>I never said she was exactly like Rei, only that the game made it clear she was set for the same fate if she continued on alone
Blanc is not a selfish despot like Rei was and that's that. The Rei comparisons are making me a bit uncomfortable thinking about them.
>Ingrates
Honestly, really. That somehow 100% of her remaining population turned on her the moment she lost is absurd. Like they were just waiting for the opportunity to kick her while she was down. They then all chose to follow a fat, greedy bastard instead.
>Fucking Doom had a SNES port and that game was gory as hell for its day
And yet they censored the later Game Boy Advance ports.
>It really sucks but so much shit can get passed the censors if there's enough people interested in it
>The promise of large sales
Why is all this AIshit getting through then? Even journiggers are complaining about it. 
>HDN and RB1 both feature Lastation in crisis because a giant megacorp is swallowing up the whole nation
But is N*ire blamed for it?
>she lost steam and confidence through all the time it took to get anywhere
I don't think this is the case since she was confident facing all three goddesses later. I think she just rashly rushed out to the border after hearing about her loss of shares without thinking and only after a while realized what she was doing.
>>7636
>Well we've somehow raised /nep/ all the way back to 7 PPH
And I'm pretty sure half of that is just me and Blancbro going back and forth. Well, I enjoy talking about Blanc and Neptunia with him anyway. Speaking of N*ire and Vert, I'm pretty sure that one N*irefag would have interjected by now if he were here, considering both me and Blancbro are dragging her. Honestly, I didn't mind him that much. If anything, he was kind of like a comedic sitcom rival.
>At least this has shown us what could be improved at halfchan, should it ever come back online
There were many, many things that could have been improved at halfchan. Doesn't mean they will. They'll probably just leave almost everything as it was and bank on Stockholm Syndrome drawing everyone back. And so I'm honestly kinda hoping it stays dead. I'd rather you guys stay here than go back there.
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I don't wish death upon Noirefag(s).
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>Please take a look at how Lastation is portrayed in-game and reassess.
The only other representatives are portrayed as greedy, self serving, and shrewd. Totally overtaken by the business side of things. Very telling when the old bastard is working for Lastation at the end of the V's story. Yeah these devs love Noire and Playstation but somehow they don't depict Lastation as a perfect place... or perhaps they do, and the actual values of the devs are just that fucked up. And I mean, when your industry commentary very frequently equates to "the industry should collude to subvert consumer rights in order to stop software piracy", that's some uncomfortable shit to think about.
>Agreed, but Chapter 3 was so devastating as a Blancfag that it still burns even a while after.
Chapter 3 hurt but I've given my stance on the whole thing already. Blanc is going to be okay.
>All gags.
>I don't know why I have to keep stressing this. It's a gag.
Because being a gag doesn't suddenly make it a non-criticism. The audience is meant to laugh AT Noire for those things, not with her. Played off as a joke or not they're still serious character flaws. Again, it seems you fail to understand the concept of satire.
>spoiler 1
She should have hit you for that, I'm sorry. Animal Crossing is a commitment of autism, you don't mess with that shit.
>While Blanc had to have hers violently broken out of her.
Blanc unfortunately didn't have the position of most popular character in the franchise. The purpose of breaking her down wasn't even to criticize her, the purpose was to get a critical audience to feel bad for her and open up. That's why the Rei comparisons don't even appear until later in the game. You're not meant to think about what Blanc could be doing wrong in chapter 3, you're meant to think about how she's being unfairly set up for a fall by a bunch of evil cunts. You keep talking a bout the in-universe humiliation, and yeah it hurts to watch, but the meta purpose is anything but insulting. It's to show your average player the shit we'd already seen in her.
>the moment N*ire became a goddess and could face her as an equal, she could have cut her off
And there was a moment where Noire was willing to stand up to Iris Heart by transforming. Didn't last long. They're not equals.
>she had far more shares than Planeptune by that point, so don't say she couldn't fight Iris Heart if she wanted to
Blanc had less shares than either of them yet still left them utterly exhausted in a 3-on-1 match. The entire Yellow Heart fiasco should tell you there's a bit more to scaling goddess powers than just shares.
>Just like CH forgot that game the moment they could.
They actually included the game's script in ReVerse IIRC.
>My point was that she went into it with an entirely different mindset than Rei's.
Sure but you're fucking blind if you don't think being thrust into a situation against your will would breed a sense of entitlement after a while.
>Most real-life leaders in a similar situation would have reacted similarly.
Invoking this isn't helping your case, most real-life leaders are pretty fucking arrogant compared to your average person. Almost by necessity otherwise they wouldn't seek leadership.
>The Rei comparisons are making me a bit uncomfortable thinking about them.
Blame the game for making them, all I did was connect the dots. Might be best to drop this particular subject.
>spoiler 2
Unfortunately she has a history of ungrateful followers and refugees. It's a plot point in HDN. Hell, you can say the same about RL Nintendo. There's a whole lot of nasty misinformation going around about the Switch 2 and pricing, from people all too eager to take Nintendo down a peg or five.
>And yet they censored the later Game Boy Advance ports.
By that time Doom was considered old and moldy. Except by the diehards, obviously. Not even sure if that was Nintendo's doing, there are Mortal Kombat games on the GBA with blood and gore intact.
>Why is all this AIshit getting through then? Even journiggers are complaining about it.
Sheer numbers? No loli? I was talking about the prospect of making money off cyberpunk.
>But is N*ire blamed for it?
Partly, yes. She let her nation go to hell, kind of a failing these goddesses shared. They were too busy fighting each other during the console war to do much, and now that it's cooled down they've largely been caught up in their own interests. Except, oddly enough, Blanc. Blanc is the only one actively hunting monsters in her nation. Anonymously. And still the heretical ingrates decide to try and stage a coup. And it was all the fault of a Noirefag ,and Arfoire.
>I don't think this is the case since she was confident facing all three goddesses later.
She was extra mad later. What she wasn't confident in was whether or not she was doing teh right thing.
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>or perhaps they do, and the actual values of the devs are just that fucked up
Pretty sure that's more or less what I've been saying. Every other nation gets some sharp criticisms thrown at them, particularly Vert and Leanbox (but she deserves it, all of it). Lastation is consistently portrayed as cutting edge and the model for other nations to follow. Part of what made Blanc so worried was the prospect that Planeptune could share Lastation's methods and hardware since they were on friendly terms and replicate the meteoric rise.
>And I mean, when your industry commentary very frequently equates to "the industry should collude to subvert consumer rights in order to stop software piracy"
I believe I've said before that I don't like it when Compile Heart soapboxes about piracy. They've shown they do not understand why pirates exist and their motives nor are they interested in it.
>Played off as a joke or not they're still serious character flaws
Serious character flaws lead to serious consequences. When has N*ire suffered serious consequences for hers? Getting a bit of fun poked at you by your allies and a few villains is not serious consequences.
>And there was a moment where Noire was willing to stand up to Iris Heart by transforming
If there was, I've must have missed it or forgotten. 
>The entire Yellow Heart fiasco
She was being empowered by an artificial share generation machine that Anonydeath stated made her "a dozen times" stronger than an ordinary goddess. When she wasn't being empowered by said machine, she was defeated easily.
>Blame the game for making them, all I did was connect the dots. Might be best to drop this particular subject.
I was basically conceding to you, anyway. I guess I'm predisposed to believing in Blanc's inherent goodness as a person, and as a goddess, that it's hard for me to accept she could be capable of such a thing. I do suppose given a specific set of circumstances, and a very bad day, she might do something terrible. And thinking about all the guilt she would bear, and being forced to wander the earth in hiding like Rei...
>There's a whole lot of nasty misinformation going around about the Switch 2 and pricing
Is it the price hike on the first-party games?
>What she wasn't confident in was whether or not she was doing teh right thing.
Basically what I've been saying.
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>Every other nation gets some sharp criticisms thrown at them, particularly Vert and Leanbox
Is that actually true, though, by your definition? I mean, "real" flaws need to lead to "real" consequences. Leanbox and Planeptune are both safe and sound and never experience any hardship through any fault of their own. I actually do agree that each of those lands get their criticism, but it's always pretty lighthearted. Planeptune being the quirky and low effort country is played off as a joke, which by your standards is pretty egregious since there was A LOT of stupid bullshit going on at Sega during the mid to late nineties and early 00's. And on Xbox's end, hell, they tried to buy Nintendo as they were entering the console market, and got laughed out of Nintendo HQ for it.
>I don't like it when Compile Heart soapboxes about piracy
I don't like it when they soapbox about the industry at all. They don't know what they're talking about, they stumbled onto mild success by sheer accident and then fucked it up by milking it too much and too lazily. It's apparent that they don't understand how anything in this industry works. It all rings hollow when they try to make industry commentary while their own house is perpetually on fire.
>When has N*ire suffered serious consequences for hers?
Only relatively recently in a couple spinoffs that you'll probably never touch. In SVS Uni rightfully gets pretty pissed off when Noire virtually ignores her to be her usual workaholic self. This was after the candidates had disappeared for two years, mind you. Of course they tried to play it off as sacrificial, with Noire using shares from her own body to support Lastation, mirroring what the PC continent's goddess did which put her in a comatose state and made her susceptible to Arfoire's possession. The other was in GMRE afterwards, ironically getting into a spat with Blanc. They're actually good friends in that dimension, and it's painful to even type out. Otherwise, well, no they're not gonna get too serious when they're walking a line. But satire is still criticism. It's been a powerful political tool for millennia.
>She was being empowered by an artificial share generation machine
Which run on completely different mechanics to actual shares, which does not invalidate my point. Also, while YH gets curbstomped 6 to 1 without her share machine helping she's STILL among the stronger end of goddesses despite having almost no public presence after Eden's fall.
>spoiler
It's nothing against Blanc at all. You know how much I love her, I'm not saying any of this from a place of malice. She's simply human like the rest of us and subject to human failings. Of course she falls on the more resistant side, which is a good thing. But everyone has their limits. That said, CH's narrative is still flawed. In real life Nintendo never had any friends to pick them back up. They did it themselves. Their fall from grace during the nineties caused them to identify an over reliance on third parties as a flaw. Look at them now, flourishing as they focus on first party development while their competition loses relevance by the day thanks no exclusives. Just something to think about.
>Is it the price hike on the first-party games?
Pretty much. I've seen people still parrot the $90 price tag that doesn't exist anywhere, or the claim that physical copies will cost extra, or that everything will be priced like MKW. DKB is $70 MSRP. And while $70 for a new game ain't great, it's a hell of a lot better than $80 or $90.

I know it SOUNDS like corporate speak, but I believe Doug Bowser when he says they're doing variable pricing. I believe it because we've already seen it with the Switch, and because that's what they've been doing with Japan for decades. They don't price all big releases at 6k yen and be done with it. No, games are priced according to the scope of development. RPGs tend to be on the more expensive side, so you can expect the next Xenoblade to be in the $80 range since they're usually priced at around 8k yen in Japan.

Also people losing their shit over a $5 increase in accessory prices, that's pretty dumb IMO. Yeah they're not great, but neither are the stiff 45% tariffs they're likely to face once it all finally goes into effect for Vietnam produced goods.
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In DERQ news, Code Z is getting a beta test for the Steam version. You do it for free, but at least you get to keep the game I think?
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>Is that actually true, though, by your definition? I mean, "real" flaws need to lead to "real" consequences
Vert arrogantly assumed she could conquer Gamindustri with just her hardware releasing. She instead gets dragged for releasing an oversized piece of shit. She then challenges the other goddesses to a fight in Halo Forest. She gets her ass handed to her and reduced to angry gamer tears. It's like a less extreme version of what Blanc went through, and it's mostly played as a gag, but nonetheless Vert got humiliated pretty badly in Chapter 4. As for Planeptune, unless you count Peashy, nothing really bad happens to it or its goddesses, but then again it's the main character's nation as well as the hub where all the rest of the characters gather, so that's probably enforced. And I'd argue with it's position and the way its portrayed across the series that Compile Heart has a soft spot for Planeptune/SEGA. From what I can tell, they assisted in publishing the first Neptunia game, so I guess there's an element of gratitude there.
>I don't like it when they soapbox about the industry at all
I still wish they'd at least address all the issues plaguing weeb games lately, but I unfortunately don't have confidence that they can commit to truly criticizing those who deserve it. Not when they couldn't even bring themselves to villainize N*ire/Lastation after everything S*ny has done.
>But satire is still criticism. It's been a powerful political tool for millennia.
I'm pretty sure most of the political satire you're referring to had actual venom behind them. There is no bite behind the "haha N*ire is a loner" gag, because it's just meant to endear you to her.
>Which run on completely different mechanics to actual shares, which does not invalidate my point. 
I still think if N*ire wanted to get out from under Plutia, she could have done so after becoming a goddess. That she didn't shows she's very attached in spite of whatever Plutia may have done to her as Iris Heart, which implies it wasn't that bad or N*ire would be looking for any out she can find.
> Look at them now, flourishing as they focus on first party development
To give credit some credit to the other side here, the Switch has easily the greatest third-party support Nintendo has ever had since the NES. The Wii U prior to it had very little third-party support and was probably Nintendo's worst performing console ever. There is little doubt that Nintendo sells their consoles largely on their first-party offerings, but there's a definite "come for the bing bing wahoo, stay for the massive portable third-party library" effect. I'm not so sure the Switch 2 will have the same amount and variety of support, especially as Nintendo are making themselves hard to work with again.
>Pretty much. I've seen people still parrot the $90 price tag that doesn't exist anywhere, or the claim that physical copies will cost extra, or that everything will be priced like MKW. DKB is $70 MSRP. And while $70 for a new game ain't great, it's a hell of a lot better than $80 or $90.
I've seen some third-parties still selling their games in the $40 or $50 range, which is basically what I'm used to by now. Like the Bravely Default remaster (which you know SE will not lift a finger to uncensor). I'd be more concerned about the whole "game key cart" thing. It was arguably already being done with certain Switch games, but now that they've formalized it, it makes me think it's going to happen a lot more often now. Oh, and $20 for Switch 2 upgrades is also very annoying. To their credit, though, they're basically trying to turn them into DLC by adding content along with the graphical upgrades, but will that hold true for all of them? Of course, as you know me, none of this is my primary issue with the Switch 2.
>Also people losing their shit over a $5 increase in accessory prices
I remember when controllers and memory cards costed $20 max.
>>7644
Be honest, did you really think it wasn't going to come to PC? I think every CH game past 2019 or 20 has had a PC port. The only exceptions being the Eastasiasoft-published Switch exclusives Moero Crystal, Seven Pirates, and the uncensored Mugen Souls games.
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>Be honest, did you really think it wasn't going to come to PC? 
Times being what they are... I'm just the messenger, anyhow, I have DeRQ 1 waiting warmly on my library but it's going to be a while until I get the urge to play some Compa slop.
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>>7629
Flying onahole.
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It's funny feeling this (over)protective of someone like Blanc, who is herself both leader and protector, durable both physically and mentally, and would more likely protect me than the other way around. It may even seem stupid. But it's those small things, those little chinks in her armor, that I wish I could cover for.
>>7646
I've already basically completed DeRQ 1 on Switch. Even the bonus dungeon and boss (which abuses one of the most stupid mechanics ever put in a CH game. He has a completely fitting name, too. You will probably be saying it a lot when fighting him). I just haven't seen all the endings. DeRQ 2 is on the backlog.
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>it's mostly played as a gag
So it counts for Vert when it's played as a gag, but not for Noire? Yes, yes, I know you said she doesn't get it on the same level as Blanc or Vert, but her humiliation is still a constant. She's the butt monkey of the group.
>As for Planeptune, unless you count Peashy, nothing really bad happens to it or its goddesses
They are consistently depicted as Gamindustri's also-ran primarily due to Neptune's and Plutia's lazy natures. Sure it's played off for laughs like many other things, but being so far behind in the race that you canonically no longer produce hardware as of SVS is a pretty sad state to be in.
>I still wish they'd at least address all the issues plaguing weeb games lately, but I unfortunately don't have confidence that they can commit to truly criticizing those who deserve it. Not when they couldn't even bring themselves to villainize N*ire/Lastation after everything S*ny has done.
Yeah that ship has set sail after they played apologetics for censoring otaku media. And that's the real betrayal right there.
>There is no bite behind the "haha N*ire is a loner" gag, because it's just meant to endear you to her.
That's your perception. You're not supposed to endear yourself to a loner. A loner is one of the worst things you can be in Japan, a society with a strong emphasis on community, the family unit, and harmony with society as a whole. Listen, CH may historically pander to otaku tastes, but being an otaku, an ACTUAL otaku, is still socially frowned upon. And you need to understand that it's one thing having the tastes of an otaku and another to actually be hardcore otaku.
>I still think if N*ire wanted to get out from under Plutia, she could have done so after becoming a goddess.
I think you need to stop assuming that a group of very emotional characters would behave logically in every situation. Getting away from an abuser is a relatively simple affair mechanically, but abuse is just as much physical as it is mental. Not that I want to paint Noire of all people as some poor abuse victim, but if there's something going on then it's not beyond reason to say she'd do some mental gymnastics to make it acceptable.
>spoiler
"Over-reliance" is the key term here. Third party support is important for any platform and Nintendo has historically struggled there ever since Playstation entered the market, but on the flipside Playstation relied on third party support too much. Astro Boy has so much nostalgia pandering and 90% of it is through invoking third parties. Who you cannot count on to bring exclusives to your platform, as shown during the 7th and 8th generations when third party exclusives began to die. Nintendo predicted this would happen eventually, and continually invested in robust first party potential and it's keeping them ahead of the pack.
>I'd be more concerned about the whole "game key cart" thing. It was arguably already being done with certain Switch games, but now that they've formalized it, it makes me think it's going to happen a lot more often now. 
I'm not buying any key card releases, miss me with that shit.
>Oh, and $20 for Switch 2 upgrades is also very annoying. 
I'm still waiting for release to make a judgement on that. If games like Xenoblade 2 with dynamic resolution and unlocked framerates decide to gate performance behind DLC, then I'll get mad.
>I remember when controllers and memory cards costed $20 max.
And those controllers lacked things like wireless connectivity, rechargeable batteries, NFC readers, etc. Things we could probably do without, but are still nice to have standard. Memory cards also held a paltry amount of data. It was enough, because game saves were designed around such limitations, but $20 for 8mb of storage is still pretty dogshit by today's standards. Times were better in those days but it was little to do with the price of peripherals.
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>>7647
she is a not an onahole! she is a cute fairy who i want to show loads of affection to!!
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>>7649
>but her humiliation is still a constant
Your definition of "humiliation" is clearly different from mine. The most N*ire ever gets is ribbing from her friends and sometimes from villains. The "loner" shtick doesn't even work because she's objectively not a loner, she's surrounded by a whole group of friends whether she acknowledges them as such or not. Blanc was a loner, a true one, and we all know what happened to her, and it wasn't a fucking joke!
>They are consistently depicted as Gamindustri's also-ran
Planeptune's entire theme is futuristic techopolis. I was also alluding to how Planeptune is "special" in the context of the series. Perhaps not in V/RB3 because of the era, but in SD and HD Planeptune is something that should not exist because SEGA fell out of the console wars after the Dreamcast.
>That's your perception. You're not supposed to endear yourself to a loner.
Where did all the N*irefags come from, then? 
>Getting away from an abuser
So we're going back to painting Plutia as an abusive sociopath now? What I've seen of Plutia suggests she is not ill-natured at heart and that the game plays up her "service" for gags (except when she gets extremely angry like she did at Arfoire and Mr. Badd). I genuinely do not think she did anything really bad to N*ire.

Do you have the version of that image with her hat on? The artist deleted it from his Pixiv.
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>>7651
>Your definition of "humiliation" is clearly different from mine. 
Well, let's look at it objectively. In addition to the constant shots she gets from her inner circle, always about how she's friendless, there's her frequent role as a landing pad, being treated like a part of the scenery every time it happens to boot, her most loyal followers being creeps, having her personal life broadcast to her entire inner circle... oh, and have you recruited Broccoli, yet? Because everything about Broccoli. She's actively hostile towards Noire, it's pretty based.
>The "loner" shtick doesn't even work because she's objectively not a loner, she's surrounded by a whole group of friends whether she acknowledges them as such or not.
Perspective. I think it makes it more damning than anything else. Blanc was a loner by necessity, thrust into a situation she never asked for and found herself among people she could no longer relate to. Think about that, for the longest time she was the one goddess among a whole world of mortals, everyone of her generation quickly died off and all shed had was her work to fall back on.  No, of course her situation wasn't a joke. It was a tragedy. It treated with the gravitas that was due, which endeared her to the player after a horrid first impression in HDN.

Noire in contrast is a loner by nature. You can be surrounded by people and still be a loner. She's that meme of the dude in the corner at a party.
>Planeptune's entire theme is futuristic techopolis.
A reference to their better days. Doesn't change the fact that they're consistently last place in the setting. And SVS actually made it pretty clear that Planeptune was in a state of decay even without the crisis featured in the game. Again, they stopped producing hardware long ago and they even trashed their arcade division in reference to Sega closing their arcades in Japan. Yeah, I know Planeptune enjoys a favored status and everything will totally be alright in the end, but the actual objective fact in Gamindustri is that it's still the loser country. Nep is just too damn charismatic for the whole thing to fall apart entirely.
>Where did all the N*irefags come from, then? 
From being otaku bait.
>tsundere
>twintails
>playstation rep
>cosplay
She's a fucking checklist of appealing to Neptunia's target audience. The fact that she gets dunked on so hard in V is actually a reaction to her topping the franchise's very first popularity poll. Noirefags have V for how much shit she eats in the game by the way. You know full well, too, I saw your Iris Heart posts on 8chan.
>So we're going back to painting Plutia as an abusive sociopath now?
She's displayed sadistic tendencies for better or worse. I'm not gonna say she's abusive by nature, rather a sweet girl that can do some very abusive things if you get on her bad side.
>I genuinely do not think she did anything really bad to N*ire.
Can you offer me an explanation as to why she went catatonic in chapter 3, then?

>spoiler
I didn't think I had it, but here you go. Was buried in a backup of PS3 files from 2014.
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>>7652
We're getting bogged down in details. Whatever little gags they may make Noire the subject of does not change that she is allowed to get away with things that Blanc and Vert are punished for. The story is narratively biased in favor of her. Nothing truly bad happens to her. Lastation is portrayed as THE model nation that everyone else has to struggle to keep up with. CH have already shown in later entries that they are completely incapable of rendering due criticism unto her. She's their little pet. This is my point. You keep seriously trying to argue that fucking gags are equivalent to what Blanc and Vert are subjected to. Blanc has to be punished by the narrative if she starts showing signs of arrogance, but Noire gets a pass because they love her and because it's endearing to her fans. Her HDD form is literally the manifestation of her hubris. You've already mentioned several things they could have criticized Playstation for via her, but as I said, absolutely none of it gets brought up, ever. But they are quick to drag Nintendo and Xbox for their mistakes. This is what I'm talking about. Narrative bias, that a few recurring toothless gags does not change. Honestly, while I admit I did go into the game expecting at least a bit of this, I did not think it would be THIS bad.
>Noirefags have V for how much shit she eats in the game by the way
Noirefags are never going to admit V being narratively biased in favor of them. But I'm more than happy to dunk on them if they're going to pull out tired criticisms of one of my favorite characters. I still blame them (and Gearfags) for getting Plutia evicted from the series.
>Can you offer me an explanation as to why she went catatonic in chapter 3, then?
Something silly that the game played up as a gag. It's a recurring thing with Plutia/Iris Heart. She demanded both Noire and Neptune "give her their bodies" as a condition of giving them the CPU Memories. It turns out all that meant was taking a bath with her.

Thank you for the cute Blanc, by the way. It's always nice to find one I don't have, especially one that would have been lost to the void otherwise. And UD Blanc doesn't get enough art for how great her design is.
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>>7653
>Whatever little gags they may make Noire the subject of does not change that she is allowed to get away with things that Blanc and Vert are punished for.
Is she actually getting away with it if she's the cast's butt monkey, though?
>Lastation is portrayed as THE model nation that everyone else has to struggle to keep up with.
I give this a pass in V and V only and the reason is because it's pure historical fact. Playstation absolutely dominated during the 5th and 6th console generations. Make no mistake, N64 and Gamecube had their gems but they were paltry compared to the sheer amount of exclusives PS1 and PS2 had, and the sales reflected that. Also thinking about it, V did kinda go light on Xbox not even bringing up the warchest or the housefires. Or the slapdash design of the original Xbox. Can probably chalk it up to sheer ignorance, though.
>Plutia evicted from the series
She appeared as recently as 4GO and she still polls in the top 10--above fucking Uni of all characters by the way. The characters that poll higher than her are the main four + Nepgear and Worst Nep. It's more likely her seiyuu just isn't accessible. She does a lot of work, she's still doing a lot of work, likely not available to a small studio like Compile Heart, at least not what they're willing to pay a character designated tertiary. Yeah, the only people who don't like Ploot are retarded westerners who actually think her punishments are sexual in nature.
>Something silly that the game played up as a gag. It's a recurring thing with Plutia/Iris Heart. She demanded both Noire and Neptune "give her their bodies" as a condition of giving them the CPU Memories. It turns out all that meant was taking a bath with her.
No, see, the running gag is that her tortures are sexual, but violence is something she's employed genuinely on several occasions. Bathing with Plutia didn't make Noire go catatonic, and you can't tell me what sort of innocent little thing would have made her catatonic. Or instill sheer terror in Neptune to the point that she's begging the player to stop it somehow. Honestly I'm of the opinion it either involved spankings or yanking those awful twin tails of hers.

>spoiler
No problem. Led me to finding another image I'd been hoping would turn up anyways. Also, I feel that way especially about UD White Heart.
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>>7654
Yes, she is. I keep telling you, those gags are utterly toothless. She never experiences a fall like both Blanc and Vert had to go through, even though she has the things they're criticized for in spades. 
>I give this a pass in V and V only
I would to if not for the fact they've shown they won't criticize Noire/S*ny even when it's truly warranted and justified, like after the 2018 Sonypocalypse. So it leads me to believe something else is at play there.
I'm tired of arguing about this.You've already made me have to (reluctantly) concede about Chapter 3 and the whole Lowee Arc and its necessity for Blanc's character. And my grievances with Noire's favoritism in V/RB3 in large part stemmed from that and more recent events in games that make me feel she's karmically due for a fall like what happened to Blanc, and yet it never happens to her because she's Compa's favored little pet. But they'll go all in on criticizing Blanc/Nintendo. They may even repeat it with the next mainline if they're feeling spiteful enough. It makes me feel like they're unfairly singling Blanc out for criticism. I will never believe those basic, toothless gags are karmically equivalent to what Noire is due and you can't convince me of that.

>She appeared as recently as 4GO
That's not "recent", that was 8 years ago. How many games have there been since then? A dozen? You can't tell me they're not neglecting her, a character who as you said, consistently polls top 10, above Uni who has had regular appearances, and above Uzume who just had her return, albeit in a spectacularly shitty spinoff, that nonetheless likely exists specifically to pander to her fans. So why do Plutiafags get nothing? Not even merch or plushies despite the latter being one of her most prominent traits.
>Honestly I'm of the opinion it either involved spankings or yanking those awful twin tails of hers.
Neither of those would reasonably make someone catatonic either. Once again, whether it was violent or sexual, I assert that whatever happened was exaggerated for the gag. She didn't even show any signs of lasting trauma like Arfoire did.
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>I'm not buying any key card releases, miss me with that shit.
It's looking like you're going to have slim pickings, then. 
https://xcancel.com/gematsu/status/1915117805499777329#m
I did say that it becoming formalized likely means it's going to become more common. Almost all the third-parties seem to be jumping on the digital-only future bandwagon. The only exception I've heard so far is Rune Factory Guardians of Azuma, where Marvelous specifically said the whole game is on the card. This basically means that piracy will soon be the only way to actually own anything, so CH can seethe all they want, pirates are going to become the good guys here if they aren't already.
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>>7654
>Honestly I'm of the opinion it either involved spankings
RIP spankfag 2
In any case, I wonder if the time shenanigans in SVS explicitly cutting the portal to the Ultradimension (which also kept the time between the two stable) was pretty much Compa's way of telling us to shut up about Plutia.
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Today is the 10th anniversary of Megadimension Neptunia VII's release. I owe that game (via its Switch port) for getting me into Neptunia and introducing me to Blanc. And Uzume remains one of my favorite characters in the series (and I don't say that lightly, because there are quite a few I'm not keen on).
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Uzume's green stink lines
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>>7655
>I keep telling you, those gags are utterly toothless.
And I keep telling you that gags aren't toothless just because you personally aren't satisfied with them. Noirefags hate them and I have a good time laughing at them.
>she's karmically due for a fall like what happened to Blanc, and yet it never happens to her because she's Compa's favored little pet
I agree she's karmically way overdue. Problem is, that opportunity was... before the first game even released. Playstation just has no experienced the same lows as it did on PS3's launch. Even now with the platform basically dying in Japan, you know what SIE's profits look like? Better than ever. Even if the margins aren't great to begin with. It's pure fucking bullshit that PS has kept its head above the water with a machine that's nearly five years old and still barely has a single worthwhile exclusive to its name.
>I will never believe those basic, toothless gags are karmically equivalent to what Noire is due and you can't convince me of that.
Well no, of course it's not equivalent to what she is due right now, after nearly 15 years of favoritism. But it's what she WAS due when the game released. I don't think anyone in their right mind would argue that Blanc as a character was in need of another rock bottom moment after V. The playerbase opened up to her and she's been top 5 in the rankings ever since. Context, context, context. Probably a bit of a mistake to play RB3 so late if you're looking at the grand picture like this.
>They may even repeat it with the next mainline if they're feeling spiteful enough.
That would be extremely out of touch considering Japan is loving the Switch 2 so far. That Japan only discount SKU really won a lot of favor from the Japanese.
>above Uni who has had regular appearances
Actually the candidates hadn't properly appeared in a Neptunia game before SVS since 4GO. Nepgear a top 3 character going 5 years without seeing the light of day in any Neptunia game, that really happened.
>So why do Plutiafags get nothing?
I just said her seiyuu is one of the most unavailable in the industry. How can she appear if Compa can't book her seiyuu?
>Not even merch or plushies despite the latter being one of her most prominent traits.
She actually did get a tapestry piece to coincide with the ebten plushies. Otherwise if you're curious why she gets such paltry merch, consider that it took over a decade for Vert to get one(1) figure to her name and that's as a mainstay character who is more popular than Plutia. At least Plutia had the chibi figure with V's LE in Japan. Uni got to skip ahead in merch because being Noire's sister makes her shill club.

As for Uzume, this is purely speculation, but she was teased in the last OVA so she might be getting special treatment in preparation for following through with that... although it's been years and the franchise continues its decline so that may have been cancelled outright.

In general, though, I feel like I need to point out this franchise just has too many fucking characters for Compile Heart's scope. Someone is ALWAYS getting unjustly neglected. Look at every single maker character, hell look at how long it took for the gold third to appear again. You're gonna attribute Plutia's disappearance to fandom malice when these devs struggle to juggle anyone else, too?
>She didn't even show any signs of lasting trauma like Arfoire did.
Dealing it with it for years versus dealing it with it for once, and obviously the latter being much more harsh. I'll preface this by saying Plutia isn't necessarily an abusive person, but if there has been abusive behavior going on then Noire would likely have normalized it by the time we see her in game. It's an actual thing that happens.

>>7656
I woke up to this stupid bullshit. In all fairness, third party launch selection was pretty bad for the original Switch as well. But fuck, I was interested in Daemon X Machina, Raidou, and BD... although I already knew BD was a game key card.

Man, fuck these third parties and their half hearted support.

>>7657
I think it was their attempt to foreshadow the timeline resets, since the portal kept the flow of time stable between dimensions.
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New Compaslop just dropped.
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>that opportunity was...
When Soyny (I can say it here, cheers for no retarded word filters that should have been removed years ago) censored their games while having on-screen mocapped roid butch sex in their pet shill game.
>That would be extremely out of touch considering Japan is loving the Switch 2 so far
But do Compile Heart's audience love it?
>Actually the candidates hadn't properly appeared in a Neptunia game before SVS
And then they got a whole game just for them in SvS, thus making up for the time they were absent. Which was shorter than the amount of time Plutia has been gone.
>How can she appear if Compa can't book her seiyuu?
She's been in the recent games, just not playable. What, are they reusing her voice lines?
>Look at every single maker character
Didn't you already say once that this was a licensing problem? The lack of Maker characters has been notable in recent games. Shame, they breathe a bit of life into the setting. I like MAGES. and Nitroplus personally.
>You're gonna attribute Plutia's disappearance to fandom malice
It's just hard not to suspect when you had two of the most popular and annoying character fanbases going hard against her despite her general popularity and then after being prominent in games for half a decade, she just disappears off the face of the earth and every opportunity to bring her back is ignored or outright shut down.
>and BD
Even if I was getting a Switch 2, I would not touch that one simply because you just know SE won't undo the censorship and will likely make it global, much like with Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Xenoblade X.
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>>7662
Not impressed. Looks like a C-tier Square Enix game. Compile Heart seems to have forgotten that people look to them for turbo weeb games, not this shit. If I wanted a third-rate generic fantasy indie RPG, I would go to some other weird-sounding company or maybe even SE themselves these days, not Compile Heart.
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>>7664
My first thought was "man why isn't this a Neptunia/DeRQ/Mary Skelter/Fairy Fencer/etc spinoff?"
They want to capture lightning in a bottle again with these new IPs but the only problem with the ones they have is how they treat them.
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>>7662
>Go to site to get some info
>Front page has no news

>Go to info page

>Compatibility 
>Nintendo Switch™/PlayStation®5/PlayStation®4 
>PlayStation®4 version only for DL and Digital Deluxe versions 

>Genre 
>2D Action RPG 

>Release date 
>Scheduled for Summer 2025

So are they just fucking stupid? I'm an anonymous weeb posting on an imageboard and I'm pretty sure I could handle a launch better than shadow-dropping it on a twitter page with zero info on how it plays on two platforms that aren't going to give it the time of day even if it IS allowed to release on their stores.
Oh yeah and cool beans making a 2D Action RPG in 2025 and not putting it on Steam.
I just checked a second time because I thought I misread something and it's also not on the Switch 2.
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>>7663
>censored their games
I was under the impression here that we were talking about financial shortfalls.
>But do Compile Heart's audience love it?
Probably, I don't think they heard much about Clanpool's port over in Japan. Not to mention regulations seem more lax over there.
>And then they got a whole game just for them in SvS, thus making up for the time they were absent.
Anyone who's played it will tell you SVS was more the Nepgear and Maho show. They haven't had a reason to bring Plutia back since, I'm sorry you're unhappy about her absence but holy shit gold third had less of a presence in this franchise than she did.
>She's been in the recent games, just not playable. What, are they reusing her voice lines?
You're the one who said 4GO wasn't recent, now you're changing your mind? She wasn't as overworked in 2017, plain and simple.
>Didn't you already say once that this was a licensing problem?
Yup, explicitly for makers and makers only. But that does not explain why characters like Linda, Warechu, the gold third, etc. hardly ever show up. There's so much character bloat that someone's gonna get shafted. And hell, speaking of character bloat, you should see how bad it gets in Virtual Stars. They just keep dumping more and more into the story, all of which are nobodies that'll never be relevant again. Maybe they should focus on building and developing the characters they'll keep using instead of introducing new ones as disposables.

Still salty that Rei didn't return as a party member in VII. I wanted it.
>being prominent in games for half a decade
She appeared in one mainline game, its remake, and two spinoffs. Not that prominent. Notable for someone who isn't one of the main four or their sisters, at least.
>Even if I was getting a Switch 2
Speaking of, I just got my preorder in. After forty minutes of waiting through jank virtual queues. Now I spent the next month and change worrying about a sudden cancellation.

>>7662
I'm interested to see how it turns out if it's metroidvania. And then I'll bitch and moan that it wasn't a Neptunia flavored metroidvania.
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>>7670
>Probably, I don't think they heard much about Clanpool's port over in Japan. Not to mention regulations seem more lax over there.
They're probably going to be confused when the next Neptunia games don't release on Switch 2 then.
>Anyone who's played it will tell you SVS was more the Nepgear and Maho show
I think you're nitpicking there. They're still main characters in it. More than what anyone outside of the main four gets. Uzume was almost completely absent from the series after VII until Neptunia Riders.
>You're the one who said 4GO wasn't recent
Compa was in SvS at least. Not sure about Game;Maker.
>Maybe they should focus on building and developing the characters they'll keep using instead of introducing new ones as disposables.
So maybe they should bring older characters back to give them another go. They're arguably already doing it with Uzume and Gold Third.
>Still salty that Rei didn't return as a party member in VII
Imagine how ridiculously powerful she would be.
>Speaking of, I just got my preorder in. After forty minutes of waiting through jank virtual queues
Were you around for the absolute shitshow that was the Xenoblade 3 CE preorders?
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>>7670
By the way, you already posted that image here.
>>7572
It seems this site doesn't restrict you from posting the same image twice. Not something I'm inherently opposed to, but it would probably be nice to have a reminder
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>>7671
>They're probably going to be confused when the next Neptunia games don't release on Switch 2 then.
We'll see. They were never gonna go gory like DERQ and I'm pretty sure the fanservice will still be neutered. I've got alternatives just in case but I feel pretty confident the next Neptunia will make it to Switch.
>I think you're nitpicking there.
Pot, meet kettle.
>Compa was in SvS at least.
Cameo tier appearance just like her girlfriend.
>So maybe they should bring older characters back to give them another go. They're arguably already doing it with Uzume and Gold Third.
You'll get no argument from me, as long as Blanc's screentime doesn't suffer for it anyways.
>Imagine how ridiculously powerful she would be.
There's a pretty long standing trope about villains getting weaker after joining the party, just sayin'.
>Were you around for the absolute shitshow that was the Xenoblade 3 CE preorders?
I was there to hear about it, but not experience it. I haven't been able to finish a single Xenoblade title and I'm not buying any more until I do. I keep waiting for that offline MMO shit to click but it just doesn't.
>>7672
I posted it because I'm tired. My sleep schedule is hell and the preorder business made it worse today.
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I just realized the @CompieHeartWeb page doesn't have a single acknowledgement of Nep VII's anniversary. No teaser for the next Nep game they're supposedly working on, no illustration, not even a half hearted "thanks for sticking with us!".  I know I shouldn't, but Neptune and by extension Neptunia is that important to me to the point I feel a little hurt.
Well, shouldn't read too much into it. Unlike the 15th anniversary of HDN it doesn't seem like anyone else in Japan acknowledged it either.
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>>7675
Because CH was completely unprepared. Our Neptunia release for the year in Japan is a shitty port of Noire's shitty game. Somehow even worse than Neptunia: Vtumor Edition and Neptunia Re;Brith1 Plus Plus: Now featuring Ray Tracing.

Maybe we'll see something in August on the anniversary of the first game's release date.
>>7517 (OP) 
this board was hell to get back to, had to figure out the password to my old laptop and look through my bookmarks and shit cuz anon.cafe is kill and i forgot the names of the other sites
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>>7576
i can kinda agree with the kusoge part, i actually started with the spinoffs (ninja wars specifically), and what actually got me into these games was trying to break them, because every spinoff has some character with some ridiculous bullshit that will just blow through the game, from goh's shurikens, rom's spammable orbital bombardments, rom (again) soloing in GMS by spamming sawblades, and probably more i can't think about or never found out yet. gotta wonder if there's something for 4GO, too, though, all i can tell is that green heart is just better because she has more meter generation than everyone else(still need to beat that game, actually, somehow i barely deal damage to the final boss and honestly i dont wanna fight them for half an hour straight. seriously, what gives?)
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>>7581
it is one of the two multiplayer neps, so if you start grinding multiplayer, hit us up, i'd love to have anons to play with
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>>7679
Does it work? I tried playing 4GO online with my friends and nobody even got in.
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>>7680
it actually works pretty well, one time the game took like 30 seconds to start after it loaded us in but otherwise it's p good
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>>7681
Huh. Maybe I'll have to buy BvZ next sale. Love Nep's uniform.
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>>7673
>We'll see.
E10 swimsuits.
E!
10!
SWIMSUITS!
>and I'm pretty sure the fanservice will still be neutered
It better not be. Playing through Re;Birth 3, aside from some outfits and Plutia and Peashy pandering hard to certain fetishes, the fanservice is pretty baseline. I can see why it got a T-rating. It's far from unreasonable to expect at least that much from them, and if they don't deliver, it's on them. 
>Cameo tier appearance just like her girlfriend.
They still would have had to book her seiyuu unless they just reused voice lines. I do not think Compa is a lesbian, nor do I want to think of her as one. It's why you didn't see me join in with the others in using her to bash the IFtard.
>There's a pretty long standing trope about villains getting weaker after joining the party, just sayin'.
They would have to come up with a pretty good excuse for it, because Rei's power is in an entirely different league compared to the other goddesses, even in their NEXT forms. A mere fragment of her power is used by Kurome in VII to move and merge entire dimensions, and NEXT Purple at full power couldn't cancel it out or purify Heartdimension.
>I was there to hear about it, but not experience it
I actually tried. I failed. After a while of thinking, I decided I didn't want Xenoblade 3 anyway. Just made me wonder, how many times did you get Wario'd? Enough times to get sick of his face?
>>7650
I neglected to reply to this when I meant to. Anyway, VII actually implies she's some sort of artificial being made by past Planeptune CPUs, so not really a fairy.
>>7677
Did you post on this board in its heyday?
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>7683
Oh, look, our first drive-by shitposter. Clearly alive enough for you to come over just to seethe at us.
>>7685
nah, i came long after it was dead as dirt. tried to make a SVS thread, to no avail. it's nice seeing it get used, even if it's probably just temporary. wonder if the mods or whoever even check this place anymore.
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>>7687
This thread?
https://trashchan.xyz/nep/thread/7373.html
>even if it's probably just temporary
I seriously hope not. I'll restate that I really hope you guys don't run back to shitty 4Cuck if by some chance it does come back. This place is much better and comfier.
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>>7687
>wonder if the mods or whoever even check this place anymore.
Yes, same as all the other boards. Just submit a global report if you see something that violates the site's rules.
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>>7661
Just an update on this, Marvelous USA claims the Switch and Switch 2 game cards for all their upcoming games including Daemon X Machina Titanic Scion will include the full game on the card, including the upgrade for Switch 2 for the Switch versions. Since the Japanese version appears to be a game key card according to Gematsu, it seems awfully strange that the Japs are getting a digital-only version while the west gets full physical versions when it is usually the other way around. Unless Gematsu is wrong or are just jumping the gun.
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>>7690
It's also possible that Marvelous USA are full of shit.
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It's times like these where I wish I had a Xitter account to burn, because I want to rip this fucking cunt parasite's throat out! NEPTUNIA IS A LOLI AND LOLICON-FRIENDLY SERIES! YOU ARE SQUATTING ON STOLEN LAND!!
This better not be the kind of fucking retard Compile Heart thinks they need to pander to, I swear to God!
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>>7685
>E10 swimsuits.
And if you recall, it was NoA that forbade them, they were just fine in Japan.
>It's far from unreasonable to expect at least that much from them, and if they don't deliver, it's on them.
I don't know how they're getting any of it past PS censors. Yeah, the fanservice in the Re;Births are pretty baseline... and we couldn't even get that in any new Neptunia since SNRPG's release. That got hit pretty hard even though the fanservice was about what you'd expect, and then after that it just straight up disappeared. Those are my expectations. If I'm wrong, thankfully I'm prepared to go to whichever platform the next mainline Neptunia is on.
>They still would have had to book her seiyuu unless they just reused voice lines.
Not comaprable to Plutia's, at one point she was the most well paid seiyuu in Japan.
>spoiler
She and IF are living together well into their thirties as of SVS. They act like a married couple that's well settled in, with Compa even nagging IF about bad habits and IF stubbornly refusing to listen. The IF x Compa ship is one of the most consistently teased across multiple continuities. If you really don't w ant to buy into it, okay, but I'm just saying that's a ship that has actual evidence unlike any of the garbage the schizo likes to post.
>They would have to come up with a pretty good excuse for it
>A mere fragment of her power is used by Kurome
There's your excuse, Rei lost that nasty power and that's how Croire was able to get a hold of some of it. Although Rei would likely be mechanically OP anyways since IIRC she appears to be a magic user and magic is generally OP in these games.
>Just made me wonder, how many times did you get Wario'd? Enough times to get sick of his face?
Didn't get Wario'd at all. Nintendo's store hasn't opened preorders yet, and they're doing it in a lotto based on people with a history of activity and online subs on their account. Really trying to discourage scalpers. I did my preorder through Walmart. The queue system was jank as hell but somehow made the stock last more than forty minutes so I could get a preorder in.

>>7690
Nothing to do but wait for release and see what happens.
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>>7693
>it was NoA that forbade them, they were just fine in Japan.
Even if they do decide to port it to Switch (2) just for Japan, it probably won't have English. 
>I don't know how they're getting any of it past PS censors
The Re;Births are already on PS4 in Japan, and I don't know of any cases of Soyny censoring specifically outside of Asia since Omega Labyrinth Z and Senran Kagura Burst Re;Newal.
>spoiler 1
Yeah, I know. Compa is just objectively wife and mother material (just not mine), and I'd feel a bit sad if she became a spinster with IF. Plus there's the fact that on a meta level, she wrote Genkai Tokki. I don't know how you can argue that anyone who wrote a series with a vaguely penis-shaped otter who you jerk off in a minigame to make him coom a giant instadeath laser has lesbian tendencies.
>spoiler 2
Yes, it is. MAGES. has probably the most kills in my party simply because she can wipe out entire enemy parties in one go with her AOE regular attacks.
>Really trying to discourage scalpers.
Speaking of, I remember they said they were going to do this simply by producing lots of stock so there was enough for everyone anyway. Yet now here we are and preorders are already selling out in some places and having large queues in others.
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>>7688
ayup. granted, it was SVS, so it's not like there was much to discuss there. Only thing I can say if i wish they used that planeptune hub in GMS, it's ridiculous that they made an entire replica of planeptune and planeptower or whatever it's basillicon is called and used it for one game only. ironically enough, they need to learn how to reuse stuff better now.
>>7694
im sorry she wrote WHAT
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>>7696
Never heard of Seven Pirates? Or Genkai Tokki in general?
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>>7697
no, i very much know about it, but did the games actually imply that she wrote it? i'd NEED to see that
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>>7698
No, unfortunately, but since she's a Maker and other Makers are known to reference the games made by their inspirations, it's easy to imagine she could have wrote something like it in-universe.
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>>7694
>Even if they do decide to port it to Switch (2) just for Japan, it probably won't have English. 
It'll come over just fine if it's to the same standards as everything after SNRPG.
>The Re;Births are already on PS4 in Japan, and I don't know of any cases of Soyny censoring specifically outside of Asia since Omega Labyrinth Z and Senran Kagura Burst Re;Newal.
I know, and I'm saying I don't know how those Re;Births got past the censors in Japan. My current theory is they were grandfathered in since they're already being sold as Vita titles. The Vita store is somehow still kicking.
>spoiler 1
Neptunia just isn't meta in that way. Much to my disappointment with characters like CC2. Instead, IF and Compa are some flavor of life partners in reference to one company owning the other. That's how CH chose to write it. If it were me I'd have kept IF. x Vert. That was not new to RB1, that was in there day 1 with HDN.
>Speaking of, I remember they said they were going to do this simply by producing lots of stock so there was enough for everyone anyway. Yet now here we are and preorders are already selling out in some places and having large queues in others.
No matter how hard they try they can never anticipate demand at launch. I imagine demand is greatly fueled by tariffs, too,. everyone wanting to get theirs before surprise price hikes happen. That said Nintendo's store has yet to open up preorders, maybe that'll be a game changer for ensuring everyone who wants one gets one.
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>>7700
>If it were me I'd have kept IF. x Vert.
dear lord i would too, it was super funny watching IF react to both her perfect princess persona and secret degenerate gamer side, plus her extremely heavy-handed flirting. IF and compa wouldn't be bad but IF and vert is where it's at
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>>7700
>It'll come over just fine if it's to the same standards as everything after SNRPG.
I'm saying that Neptunia Riders was even lower than the usual post-2020 standards and still didn't come over fine. Both SVS and Game:Maker got T despite being neutered, but Neptunia Riders was so tame it was the first Neptunia game ever that got E10 and somehow STILL got fucked.
>My current theory is they were grandfathered in since they're already being sold as Vita titles
Why isn't Tokyo Clanpool on PS4, then? Or the rest of the Vita catalog like it?
>Neptunia just isn't meta in that way.
Other Makers are pretty unsubtle with the references, you know. Falcom references almost every modern Falcom game having some sort of fishing minigame. I think Tekken fights a reference to an enemy in her game in one of her scenes, though I'm not that familiar with Tekken to be sure. Unfortunately, most of the other Makers in Re;Birth 3 are primarily VN devs which I am definitely not familiar with.
>I imagine demand is greatly fueled by tariffs, too,. everyone wanting to get theirs before surprise price hikes happen
In that case, it should slow down now that they've confirmed tariffs won't affect the price.
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>>7702
>I'm saying that Neptunia Riders was even lower than the usual post-2020 standards and still didn't come over fine.
"Come over fine" in my case means coming over at all. I never cared that much about the swimsuit DLC to begin with. Still asinine that it was censored by NoA, but I swimsuits just don't do much for me.
>Why isn't Tokyo Clanpool on PS4, then? Or the rest of the Vita catalog like it?
Those were EAS endeavors, largely. Ask them. As usual with censorship, there's nothing consistent and nothing makes a lick of sense.
>Other Makers are pretty unsubtle with the references, you know.
None of them make fucking games is what I'm getting at. That is the level of meta that Neptunia falls short of. I know, it's fucking weird, they're called makers, they represent video game devs, but they never talk about making games. Compa is a nurse in-universe.

Also now that I think about it, Compile Heart really didn't have much of an identity before Neptunia. Look at their output before Neptunia:
>puzzle shit
>licensed shit
>supporting IF's shit
Compa's character was codified long before all the really lewd shit started rolling out.
>In that case, it should slow down now that they've confirmed tariffs won't affect the price.
"For now", people are still wary especially since Playstation has raised their hardware prices in response to just plain inflation.
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>>7703
>spoiler
Swimsuits are a case-by-case thing on whether I like them or not, but generally I prefer actual outfits over generic swimsuits, risque or not. And I definitely want this next mainline to have outfit options after SvS and Game;Maker were so lacking. There's also just the fact that if fucking swimsuits get censored now, anything is fair game.
>Compile Heart really didn't have much of an identity before Neptunia
They had the Agarest games, at least, and those were pretty weeb-y. Enough that Ghostlight got pissy and censored Agarest 2 on EU PS3 and Steam and blamed PEGI for it, just like how NISA later blamed the ESRB for their censoring Mugen Souls.
>Compa's character was codified long before all the really lewd shit started rolling out.
Still, with everything they've put out since, you'd think it's due for at least a reference. Imagine Iffy discovering Compa's scripts and sketches for lewd shit.
>Playstation has raised their hardware prices in response to just plain inflation
They'll do that regardless. The PS5 Pro they're waving around is a $700 piece of shit with no built-in disc drive, all just so it can run normal PS5 games with an utterly negligible graphical upgrade that is hardly noticeable. No exclusives, either. At least the New 3DS's improvements gave it just enough of a boost that it could run things the normal 3DS could not, such as some Wii games like Xenoblade Chronicles. No such thing with the PS5 Pro. Is there even a point to a PS6 by now?
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>>7704
>spoiler
I'm sure burkas won't get censored. :^)
>They had the Agarest games, at least
I consider those Idea Factory's thing. Hence, supporting IF's shit.
>spoiler 2
You know I think this would just imply Compa is into women with all the lewd shit surrounding women. Or at least bi.
>No exclusives, either.
Putting aside the obvious remark about the base model lacking exclusives, of course the pro wouldn't. Even the N3DS got what? 3 games? All published by Nintendo? Even when in the days they did exclusives, no third party publisher in their right mind was gonna lock out huge swaths of their install base unless that shit were absolutely necessary like with FFXI's hard drive or gun controllers for the entire rail shooter genre. This is why mid-gen peripheral upgrades flop hard. It gets no third party software support because only a fraction of the install base bought it. I will even play devil's advocate and say at least with a pro model you're getting SOMETHING, because everything will be made to run on the base model and the pro model will just run it better. But then it's still not worth it because your games will run fine on the base model. Basically what you're already saying.
>Is there even a point to a PS6 by now?
We're reaching a serious point of diminishing returns, so not really. Not at this time. And definitely not in these economic conditions. What the industry needs to do is focus on making good software.
I really wish RB2 and RB3 were updated with higher resolution sprites like the Japanese PS4 & PC version of RB1 (yeah, you get the PS4 remaster assets if you select Japanese for this game in Steam). Such a good opportunity with the PS4/NSW re-release, but they just dumped the same Steam build with original Vita assets there again.
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Well it's back online.
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Candidates can do it
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>>7708
nepugiaa could run a better imageboard than rapeape
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Let's just not go back. It's cozy here.
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>>7710
I should have taken the heat and posted the link to here.
>>7710
Well I, for one, welcome our new Nep overlords enjoy your presense here. It was a rather-enjoyable surprise seeing the board pick up in activity. Please stay here. Cheers.  :)
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>>7712
There is no way they actually fixed anything in this little time. And judging by what people are saying elsewhere, the jannies are just as much abusive shitheads as ever. I do not want to go back and leave this quaint little board just for us behind just to deal with retarded captchas and 15 minute timers again, all just so I can get banned for snapping at a Nyamotaposter or posting a console game CG. I just checked /nepgen/ there and of course the IFtard showed up right on schedule, too. I want to be rid of him, and I think you guys do too. Please, I'm begging you guys, stay here.
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>>7714
I mean it's still having fits, I'll at least check every day.
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>>7714
I intend to keep checking this thread for the time being. But it's up to everyone to post here. If all the activity is centered on the other site, whose fault is that?

Like I said, I intend to keep checking this thread for activity, but I will also probably post in the other site as well.
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>>7716
I know I said up there that I'd go back, but we were just getting a good chunk of the regulars. Even Histyfag eventually made his way over here. I think all we were missing was that one Noirefag, the Gretelfag and the Unifag (the Uni Monday poster). Damn it, we had a good thing going. I don't want it to be abandoned again for the same old shit we put up with from 4Cuck.
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Hello
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>>7718
Is this your way of saying you were the Unifag all along?
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>>7719
I've only been here a few hours.
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>>7720
Oh, I forgot to check the date on your posts. Nonetheless, you made it here before 4Cuck went back up.
About the fangame Dimension Tripper, has anyone read news of the English version for the full game? I played the demo in English and had no problem selecting that language. Chinese version of the full game is out. English is in the menu but not delectable.
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>>7722
I didn't have much interest on it since it's just Nepgear and Uni, plus the artstyle is a bit too lewd for me.
Have you tried tweeting at the devs?
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>>7717
People are creatures of habit, unfortunately. And bad habits are especially hard to break.

>>7718
I'll say hello to you, too.
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>>7722
I assume you're referring to that game called Dimension Breaker by this guy on Xitter?
https://xcancel.com/Fignya7
Last he seems to have said was "few more months" at the end of January.
https://xcancel.com/Fignya7/status/1885221485851361572#m
Since he initially promised it by the end of last year, I assume something's holding it up or he just got lazy as fan game devs tend to do. I personally, have zero interest in it since it's a Nepgear and Uni game (two characters I don't care for) and because his artstyle is uncomfortably reminiscent of Nyamota's, just thankfully without the disgusting racial humiliation fetish.
>>7724
I'm looking at the new thread, and IFtard is already warping the thread around him again. Do people seriously enjoy putting up with him or something? Not having to use empty posts to bump the thread also means posts here are usually to contribute something, too (and since /nepgen/ is a slow general, it's an unfortunately high portion of the posts). I cannot fathom why anyone would want to go back there
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I was looking forward to it, so I hope the game is completed. There aren't many nep fan games in general. The demo gameplay was just as okay as any official nep action game. And I like Uni after all.
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>>7726
>There aren't many nep fan games in general
True, I'm glad anyone is trying at all.
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>>7725
>Do people seriously enjoy putting up with him or something?
No, but seeing as he technically isn't breaking any rules the mods won't ban him. And he's unfortunately content to shit up the thread whether or not people respond to him. In fact, historically he's expressed annoyance over his shitposters so they know he's not just getting off on the attention.
>I cannot fathom why anyone would want to go back there
Well it's that, reddit, twitter, or sources even more dead. I agree we should take up shop here, but getting people to move with us is an uphill battle. I'm almost certain a few posters just went without their image board fix when the other site was down.
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>>7728
>And he's unfortunately content to shit up the thread whether or not people respond to him. In fact, historically he's expressed annoyance over his shitposters so they know he's not just getting off on the attention.
I don't really believe this. The proof is back when Mary Skelter Finale released and Skelterposters became prominent in the general. He was relatively benign before (possibly because no one replied to him), but that was when he started going out of his way to antagonize specific posters and poster types, starting with the "all Skelters are dykes because Otsuu and Little Mermaid exist" shtick. From then on, he became much more obnoxious and would frequently attempt to antagonize other posters when they started talking at length about other topics. Particularly non-Neptunia Compile Heart games, but as you likely saw, when I started posting at length in the general, especially about Blanc, he started attacking Blanc with the "she's gay for Plutia" shtick (and just outright calling her ugly). I do not believe for one second that he's content posting alone. He clearly wants an audience and gets annoyed when that audience is focused on something other than him. This is why I believe he's just a particularly dedicated troll that likely doesn't even believe half the things he says to get attention.
>I agree we should take up shop here, but getting people to move with us is an uphill battle.
Truth be told, when I first saw this site a few months back, I immediately thought "I wish /nepgen/ was here and not there". That was the ulterior motive for me mentioning/linking this site back then. Unfortunately, almost no one cared back then, probably not helped by the fact that 4Cuck's word filters made it almost impossible to link directly (and I definitely think they do that on purpose). But when Neptunefag mentioned he made his way here through me mentioning it in the archives, I felt vindicated.
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>>7729
>but as you likely saw, when I started posting at length in the general, especially about Blanc, he started attacking Blanc with the "she's gay for Plutia" shtick (and just outright calling her ugly).
That predates your appearance in the general. He started that with me anytime I would gush over Blanc, just to try and make me feel bad.

What you haven't seen is the few times he's tried to start his own OPs and bump them by making conversation with himself. It's an unwritten rule at this point that no one will migrate to IF OPs just so the schizo will never have his way and he's still bitter about it. I'm telling you, it's genuine autism. He's genuinely upset that no one will give him his way. Why do you think he sticks so doggedly to the other site? No other platform would tolerate his shit.
>gets annoyed when that audience is focused on something other than him.
What he wants is everyone talking about IF and validating his headcanons.
>Truth be told, when I first saw this site a few months back, I immediately thought "I wish /nepgen/ was here and not there".
My bad for not taking the hint, I guess. But it hardly matters where /nepgen/ goes if the shitposters follow, although it seems like this place is outside of the schizo's comfort zone. Wonder if the mods would ban him if he tried his shit here.
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>>7730
>That predates your appearance in the general. He started that with me anytime I would gush over Blanc, just to try and make me feel bad.
Hearing things like this make me feel that in some ways I'm retracing your steps.
>What he wants is everyone talking about IF
Too bad for him, that won't happen bar a miracle because IF is too minor a character. It would be easier to make everyone talk about Blanc simply because by way of being a major character there's much more to talk about with her. Which may be why he clings to Neptunia vs Sega Hard Girls so much because apparently it's the only game where IF has a starring role.
>Wonder if the mods would ban him if he tried his shit here
Unfortunately, I doubt it. As you said, he doesn't do anything that's really actionable by global rules (like what just got posted), he's just a community-specific nuisance. That is something meant to be dealt with by local moderation aimed at "curating" a local community against pests like him, but that's something /nep/ currently lacks.
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Oh, and apparently the new 4Cuck mods are going all in on banning anyone that even mentions the hack or criticizes them or the site under global rule 8. Which means it will probably be even more difficult to encourage people to move from there now without some newbie jannigger banning you using said rule. Damn it, why didn't it fucking stay dead!? It deserved to after everything that's come to light both from the hack and past events.
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>>7732
>Hearing things like this make me feel that in some ways I'm retracing your steps.
I'll be honest, at first I thought you were one of my trolls from /v/ trying to pretend to be me.
>Which may be why he clings to Neptunia vs Sega Hard Girls so much because apparently it's the only game where IF has a starring role.
That's precisely why. Also he claims IF was the real lead in mk2/RB2 lol
>That is something meant to be dealt with by local moderation aimed at "curating" a local community against pests like him, but that's something /nep/ currently lacks.
Might be a good idea to think ahead and figure out how to get that position then, if you really want to commit to this site.

>>7733
I guess it was unrealistic to expect these people to own up to their own fuckups.
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>>7734
>I'll be honest, at first I thought you were one of my trolls from /v/ trying to pretend to be me.
I see you have at least a couple. They probably do it because you are easy to pick out from a crowd and because you are easy to rile up. But in any case, I never had any intention of imitating you or aggravating you in any way. I got here on my own. 
>Might be a good idea to think ahead and figure out how to get that position then, if you really want to commit to this site.
I actually intended to ask the global mods about this, but they just said to let them handle any issues. There's also the issue that I don't actually have an e-mail, which I assume I'll need to register as a board moderator. And it's been hard deciding which service to use. I was leaning towards ProtonMail, but people in the tech board threads say bad things about it. Tutanota has been outright compromised by the German government. And the ones that don't have many bad rumors are all invite-only.
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oh wow, this place is interesting! what a time capsule!
i honestly didn't really like any of the other altchans, but i wouldn't mind staying here
>>7717
>gretelfag
y-you couldn't possibly mean...me...? was there another gretelposter?
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>>7735
I can't pretend to speak for the site Admin on this, but the board probably actually needs a new BO at this point. Since you already have your own thread in >>>/meta/ , I think it would probably be suitable to simply broach the topic of transferring the board-ownership to one of you Anons with him there.

So, figure this out amongst yourselves, then ask for the board. Simple as.
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>>7735
>They probably do it because you are easy to pick out from a crowd and because you are easy to rile up.
Pot, meet kettle. I've done my best not to feed them in months. I think I've been well behaved.
>But in any case, I never had any intention of imitating you or aggravating you in any way. I got here on my own. 
If I still suspected otherwise, I wouldn't be talking to you like this.
>spoiler
I use plain old gmail. I dunno, I just don't care that much if google knows I'm in love with a fictional goddess from a silly video game parody.
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Email is inherently not secure. The main thing you should do to protect yourself is de correlation. Don't use the same email for aspects of your life that you don't want to touch. It will also be easier to avoid mistakes if you use different services for work, personal, hobbies, etc. If you used, say, gmail for everything you could think you were on one gmail while actually being on another.
All that said, there's no particular reason to pay for protonmail or any of those other services. You can rent a web server and have your own domain for the same price. If you don't want to do that, free services are fine.
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>>7736
Welcome. Here you can post from a VPN, can post up to 5 images per post in several different file types including with sound (up to 50MB total), don't have to deal with captchas most of the time, don't have to worry about whether or not what you post will trigger a janny (but if it's NSFW, preferably spoiler it), don't have to deal with the retard, and you have an entire board to post about Nep or CH-related topics you're interested in. Have fun.
>y-you couldn't possibly mean...me...?
Depends, was this you that talked to me back then when I first started posting in /nepgen/?
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/498364182/#499597049
>>7738
I'm pretty sure I still have to get the e-mail issue sorted out before I broach that topic.
>>7739
>I've done my best not to feed them in months. I think I've been well behaved
Indeed, but just so you know, there are things it's fine to get pissed about. Getting hounded by people clearly following you just to imitate you and get on your nerves is something I would almost certainly be pissed about as well. And I don't think you were wrong to demand that people not post about Blanc like she's some easy-use fuckdoll back then, either. I think these people missed the appeal of not just Blanc, but Neptunia as a whole, on top of my personal grievances.
>spoiler
I used to have a Gmail, but it's been so long that I imagine Google has deleted it by now. Not that I wanted to reuse it. As little Google reliance as possible.
>>7740
>You can rent a web server and have your own domain for the same price.
Alas, I don't think that's an option for me. Doesn't ProtonMail have a free service? How bad is it?
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You get 1 address and 1GB storage with proton mail free. Might be adequate.
I'm going to nep. 

>>7735
I use Runbox. Fantastic little email service that lets you register dozens of alternate names. Protonmail would be #2 for me if runbox didn't exist.
>>7741
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/498364182/#499597049
oh wow, that totally is my post. i didn't think i posted often enough or had a recognizable enough typing style to become a recognizable character here lol, that's really cool!
i'm happy i found this place and that i was apparently distinguishable enough to where you noticed i was missing lol
now i wish there was as much fanart of the skelters as there is of the neps...i'd post gretel more often, but most of what i have of her are all game screenshots, and i feel like i'd come across as obnoxious if i just posted those all the time
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>>7744
I do it all the time, who cares what other people think.
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Ah, today is Hameln's birthday. She's in my top four Skelters along with Gretel, Cinderella and Otsuu. I've always been fond of the chuuni characters, and she had a genuinely heartwarming (and wrenching) story in Mary Skelter 2.
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>>7746
happy birthday nopan gremlin
i figure here would be a decent enough place to mention this, but a while back, i think it might've been more than a year ago by now, someone straight up linked downloads to the full artbooks for derq 1 and 2, but i've since lost them and i can't find them anywhere. if anyone else has them, i'd be grateful if you linked them here.
i realize now i can just look through all the archives, so i'll just keep trying that, but that'll take a while. if i find them that way, i'll just post them.
someone should also probably update the links in the pastebin, since those are dead.
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>>7749
Is this what you're looking for?
https://e-hentai.org/g/1445803/4639954cb3/
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>>7750
unfortunately no, they were the full artbooks. they had every CG and background in the game, concept and beta designs, even the uncensored glitch designs in derq 2's case
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>>7751
oh my god, i finally found them!
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kqfx9qqvin9stju - DERQ Elements Collection
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9p743m4e25ijrwf - DERQ2 Bonus CD-Rom
https://www.mediafire.com/file/vp9x08t9e14jmpw/END_QUEST_CD-ROM.7z/file - er...self explanatory, but End Quest, a bonus RPG maker game
they were posted...last january, wow.
Great find, thanks
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>>7741
>spoiler
Those free email accounts can linger forever, just sayin'. Gmail has actually been pretty good to me as far as an email service goes. I started my internet life using yahoo and I've had to change my credentials several times through no fault of my own. Google isn't perfect, no security is perfect, but they've been miles better than yahoo and great about telling me when my passwords are compromised. Just my two cents.
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>>7746
I like Gretel, I think she'd get along with Neptune and that's good. Sadly you posted all the Gretel art I've seen today.
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>>7755
there was this one really cute fanart i had saved where Gretel and Neptune were both eating pudding on a bench together.
i might be misremembering, but i think Gretel looked jealous or something lol
i don't have it saved anymore, unfortunately
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>>7738
Makes sense since the original BO was some discordnigger retard who didnt care about keeping the board alive.
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>>7761
that's the one! thank you!
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To make sure we're clear ahead of time, is everyone here fine with me taking the reins as board owner?
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>>7766
Just don't make any weird rules about Blanc and you'll get no complaints from me.
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>>7766
no complaints here!
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>>7767
What are you suspecting me of here?
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>>7770
Don't think about it too much. Just rambling from someone prone to paranoia. Enjoy this kitten Blanc, instead.

I saw the image you posted in the meta thread. Just wanted to say the fanfic attached to it looked horrible, but was I wrong? I blocked the user posting it so I didn't see the image when it was posted on twitter...
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>>7766
I don't think anyone cares nearly as much as you. In favor.
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>>7771
If I were going to make any "weird rules" about Blanc. it would probably be something like "you will not insult, besmirch, or blaspheme against Lady White Heart", or "you will not post images that insult, degrade or defile Blanc". But that would be heavy-handed and I intend to be relatively light with the rules and moderation save against obvious nuisances like the IFtard. I'll try to minimize my bias for Blanc in decision-making. This is a Neptunia board, not a Blanc board after all. But a Blanc/Lowee-themed board would be nice, even if just for the novelty.
>spoiler
That pic had a fanfic attached? Come to think of it, I vaguely remember a fanfic being brought up in the Xitter thread I found it in, but I didn't pay it much heed. I just saw a cute Blanc and instinctively right-clicked and saved.
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>>7773
>If I were going to make any "weird rules" about Blanc. it would probably be something like "you will not insult, besmirch, or blaspheme against Lady White Heart", or "you will not post images that insult, degrade or defile Blanc".
That'd be pretty based actually but obviously I share your biases. Speaking of, however...
>spoiler
Yeah so what I remember of the fic is that it's about the rise of Plutia as a goddess or something like that, and I checked the first chapter and it featured Blanc being very cruel and brutal in a war of conquest against Planeptune. That Plutia wasn't goddess yet and Blanc was being so grossly out of character, I saw the writing on the wall and immediately blocked this slop off my feed.
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>>7774
>spoiler
Oh, I've seen that fic floated around a bit on the Neptunia-centric Xitter accounts I "follow". I already wrote it off because it's basically jerking off Nepgear as someone Plutia (of all people) needs to "live up to", but I just skimmed some chapters including the first one and it seems he really wants to vilify Blanc. The same Blanc, supposedly, that couldn't bring herself to actually wage war on Lastation even after they robbed her of nearly half her shares. A shame such a cute pic was wasted on such a thing.
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>>7775
Neptunia fics in general are just absolute dumpster fires and hardly anyone actually "gets" Blanc... although I've been guilty of writing alternate interpretations of her myself, but I usually write in something to explain it. Anyways, I agree, that pic is too good to be tied to such a shitty fic.
>>7770
typically discordniggers misinterpret blanc as a "loli" and go on some random moralfag crusade around it. ignoring the reality that adult women can be short too.
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>>7778
Blanc is loli though. She's been "the loli" of the four goddesses since day 1.

Example: Some artwork from way back during Neptunia's early years, predating mk2 even IIRC.
>Nep wears the sailor style middle school uniform
>Noire wears blazered highschool uniform
>Vert wears a college sweater
>Blanc is wearing an elementary school uniform albeit on the fancier side, complete with mary janes and a randoseru backpack

Of course, Blanc is mentally an adult, but physically she is loli and she's frequently associated with loli tropes. Wearing her sleeves over her hands in her everyday attire is another loli trope.
I always felt Blanc wasn't loli but instead JK compared to the sisters who absolutely were loli.
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>>7781
>JK
That's highschooler. While she was grouped as one in her game, JK is physically too old for her. She's still well within loli range. The twins skew a lot of perceptions because they're also loli but even younger.

Think of it like a spectrum. Blanc would be on the older end of loli, the twins would be mid-range, and Peashy would be closer to the younger side. Only two or three years beyond toddler age.
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>>7781
In my opinion it's kinda like
>Rom and Ram, Peashy: JS
>Blanc: middle-late JC
>Neptune and Plutia: Either late JC or very petite early JK
UD Nep mentions being a high schooler (in the VR scenes) so we know how Nep would look as a high schooler if she grew normally thus Purple Heart is probably college aged.
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>>7778
At this point, probably the best thing you can do when these retards start their handwringing over anime character's ages or body types or how you interact with them in-game is ask them how such a thing benefits anyone in real life. Produce proof that these expressions in the form of animated characters can be tied to real-life sex crimes and how banning/persecuting them will lead to anything but more red tape and chilling effects on freedom of expression (ala Steam banning games like Order Us! because a character that is explicitly stated to be 19 years old looks vaguely underaged). Basically the argument against people decrying "murder simulators", because this is just a libtard roastie-driven retread.
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Happy Monday everyone.
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>>7787
You're the one that commissioned all those pregnant Uni images on Pixiv, aren't you?
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>>7788
Yes. To marry and reproduce with Uni is a wonderful fantasy.
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>>7789
I'm just a bit jealous. I want something like that with Blanc, but instead all I get is ugly bastard/tentacle rape or other degrading fetish shit with some occasional cute SFW interspersed between. Closest I've found so far is last pic related made by a guy on Xitter in Blender. Which is very cute, to be fair, but that this is all I could find for this particular fantasy with Blanc is a bit depressing.
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>>7790
There are some cute Blanc pregnant pictures from Weresdrim (panda archive of his pixiv) and MaiKatz (on pixiv, 3d made in koikatsu) but you might have to ignore the captions.
I'm lucky that Uni already has some nice pregnant pictures besides the ones I commissioned.
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>>7791
I have Maikatz and Weresdrim's pictures saved (thankfully), but I feel Weresdrim draws Blanc just a bit off-model. Specifically, her breasts and thighs are too big. You could possibly handwave it as being caused by her pregnancy, but I feel her breasts, especially in that second image, are just a bit too big for that excuse to be feasible.
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>>7792
Also, it's etiquette on boards like these to spoiler NSFW images unless the rules explicitly say you don't have to.
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>>7793
Sorry, I am not used to this site. I forgot to put a password in too so I can't edit that post. I'll try to remember in the future. BTW where are the rules specific for this board?
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>>7794
I think the old board owner forgot to write any, so I'm just going by common rules on other boards.
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>>7790
I've got a small collection of romantic themed Blanc art that I commissioned for myself. Nothing pregnant "yet", but still. It's nice to have something that's for me and me only.
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>>7796
I figured you would. But the price and process of commissioning just completely deters me from wanting to commission something for myself. And of course, all the stories about disgruntled commfags and lazy scamming artists.
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>>7797
I've lived that. In fact, I'm on like month 4 waiting for a PM styled Blanc commission. I complained so much about the wait that a friend went and made their own interpretation of a PM styled Blanc as a birthday gift for me. It was an incredibly thoughtful gesture.

Still, good artwork is worth the wait. What's important is you get an expectation of a wait before exchanging money. If you really want to feel safe with your money, you could use a service like artistsnclients which holds your money until the artist finishes your piece. They also give you an idea of how long turnaround will be. Skeb is also an option but now only are you not allowed to exchange messages with artists, but you can't request privacy. Learned that the hard way with a lewd skeb commission... worth it, somehow no one's found it yet, and the only place to find it is paywalled. But I'm expecting it to pop up on a booru "someday."
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>>7797
That's why I use the pixiv request system. When you pay, the money is held in escrow until the deadline.The artist gets paid when they post the work, and if they don't complete it, you get refunded automatically. They do take a percentage from the artist but I think the protections of the system are worth it for both parties. Artists won't get stiffed, and clients mostly won't get scammed. Skeb and (I think?) vgen are similar systems.
It is still possible the artist could deliver something disappoints you, that complies with pixiv rules but isn't really what you wanted, or simply delivers low quality work. But the results for me have been overall quite good. Also, most of the artists I've worked with on pixiv were friendly and polite. The system prevented us from getting into a situation where there might be conflict in the first place.

My few business interactions with artists outside of the request systems have all been bad. Mostly "forgetting" deadlines and trying to get me to wait longer than chargeback or refund periods on the transaction. Of course I didn't fall for that.
I've also had a few with clients (believe it or not, some people actually liked """my art style""" and wanted me to draw something for them. But they never managed to send me my 20 bucks in escrow. I realize it can be hard getting foreign payments processed sometimes but that's part of being a weeb).

Another thing I should mention is a lot of the artists on pixiv charge very reasonable prices, some of them are even unbelievably cheap. I wish price weren't a factor, but it just is.  Many of these artists aren't really trying to make money, but charging something means they get sincere requests. I tried to charge 20 bucks. Not that my skill is worth that much or that my time is worth that little, but it's a token of appreciation. The customer wants your picture more than another artist's, or they want the same amount or food or video games. I'm really grateful to the ones who have helped me out like this.
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>>7798
>a PM styled Blanc commission
Funnily enough, I've fantasized a bit about a Paper Mario-style Neptunia (fan)game. Something like a curse or other phenomenon afflicting Gamindustri and Neptune heading out to solve it. You get the other CPUs as partners throughout the story. Paper Mario's type of humor would also likely mesh very well with Neptunia's as well. God, I loved the Paper Mario games up to Super Paper Mario as a kid. It pissed me off badly to see TTYD's remake subjected to troonshit and current year oversanitization and was when my faith in Nintendo really started getting shaken.
>>7799
The issue of trust is one of the biggest plaguing online art commissions and it's good to see some services trying to solve that. Alas, even if I wanted to, my Pixiv account is extremely old and I'm pretty sure I've forgotten the password. And Skeb requires a Xitter account last I checked.
By the way, what's the typical asking price for a "good" artist? Somewhere in the >$100 range, I imagine?
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>>7800
>It pissed me off badly to see TTYD's remake subjected to troonshit and current year oversanitization and was when my faith in Nintendo really started getting shaken.
Once again that was all NoA's doing. Most things wrong with Nintendo can be traced back to NoA. Or Pokemon.

I didn't let it ruin the remake for me, but I really think they should have gone all the way with the troon shit. It's one throwaway line and then never referenced again... or before, for that matter. Vivian says it made Beldam's insults hurt more but the connection just isn't there. Beldam should have come out swinging with YWNBAW memes and other shit trannies hate to hear. Because she's supposed to disparage Vivian over being a boy.
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>>7800
It varies by the artist's interest in commissions as much as it does by their skill level. The minimum price on pixiv is 3,000 yen and I've got some decent pictures for that much. Third pic was 3,000 yen.
5,000 to 10,000, 15,000, up to 300,000 are commonly listed. I rarely pay more than 15,000, but I don't regret the times I did so. You can buy more quality or more detail up to a point. That said some of the favorite commissions I look at the most were on the cheaper side.

It can be hard to say what is meant by a good artist because someone might have a style that is quicker and easier to draw but still looks good. Japanese artists often phrase certain things as being "expensive," meaning it takes more effort for them to draw, and that contributes to the pricing. What you'd pay depends on your own expectations and requirements as well as artist selection.

If you want an idea of what you can expect, look at the artist's other commissions. But keep in mind the price the client actually paid is not listed after the work is posted. The price for works in progress are often publicly viewable. That's where you get good and current information, but it also means the artist is busy.

Iwasi-r charges 22,000 yen on pixiv ($154 today). It used to be 180,000 yen, which paid for Uni+Black Sister. You can also look at his skeb and see he has some more elaborate ones. I should say his's price is very agreeable for someone who has his skill and is selling full length full color doujins. Most people with that kind of productivity/professionalism don't seem to take commissions, at least not easily affordable ones.

KATADE is another nep artist who charges around 15,000, which I paid for a pregnant Uni fan art.  I don't know if you would be interested in his service for Blanc images because he tends to make the neps much more voluptuous or chubby, but I thought that was OK for Uni's body changing during pregnancy. Both artists are very well priced in this category, and both familiar with Neptunia. You'll find a lot of less skilled artists charging the same or more. Skill really varies a lot at any price brackets, and there are very good artists in low prices sometimes but it can take a lot of searching to find them. Many people may not want to spend that much time searching, understandably.

(If you look around, especially if you look outside of Neptunia fandom, you can get lucky. One time I found Pero had pixiv requests for 5,000 yen. He set the price low just to quickly try out the system, but he did a good job, and then raised his price to like 30,000. (5th pic drawn by Pero).

What you actually get for the plan's listed price varies. You might pay more than what's listed if you want extra characters or background. You might pay less if you just want a face picture for an avatar. It is also possible for artists to post different services with different prices (animation, multiple page manga, monochrome, color, and so on).

The really great thing about pixiv requests is the deadline. It's 60 days from when you submitted with no exceptions. Artists have 7 days to accept a request, but that's included in the 60. Other services have longer wait times. No waiting two months for approval and four months for completion like on skeb. Unless you're requesting a huge project, 60 days is more than enough.

Pixiv has similar rules to skeb regarding communication, but they're not enforced. I have messaged artists many times with reference images, they have messaged me with clarifications and even sent me links to uncensored versions sometimes. Each artist is different regarding this, but only one person asked me not to communicate. Communication can be avoided but doesn't have to be.

Similarly, loli pictures are against the rules, but in practice they are paid for with Visa/Mastercard and delivered every day. Just list your reference, perhaps say "Please make the proportions accurate to the original work," the artist will understand what you mean.

I ended up getting a variety of mostly unrelated pictures instead of illustrating a storyline, but I think that's fun too. Seeing all the different interpretations of Uni is fun.
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>>7799
>My few business interactions with artists outside of the request systems have all been bad. Mostly "forgetting" deadlines and trying to get me to wait longer than chargeback or refund periods on the transaction. Of course I didn't fall for that.
I've also had a few with clients (believe it or not, some people actually liked """my art style""" and wanted me to draw something for them. But they never managed to send me my 20 bucks in escrow. I realize it can be hard getting foreign payments processed sometimes but that's part of being a weeb).



Its also hilarious how many of them have no idea what a character reference sheet is even when you spell it out and provide examples.....

Never got any commissions for my 3D models but it really sucks to hear retards bragging about commissions when its the same generic twitter slop that can easily be replicated and done faster by AI. They do not have unique artstyles most of the time and just see it as unspoken heresy to even try to do your own thing with the story that isnt some retarded niggercattle shitpost or porn.
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>>7804
>to even try to do your own thing with the story that isnt some retarded niggercattle shitpost or porn.
What do you mean exactly?
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>>7805
You know exactly what I meant. There's a whole crowd that treats originality or sincerity like it's cringe unless it's wrapped in ironic layers of coomer bait or meme garbage. Acting confused about that just proves the point.
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>>7806
I just imagined you had an specific story or something. But yeah I agree, the wider nep fan base is lacking in creativity.
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>>7801
>Beldam should have come out swinging with YWNBAW memes and other shit trannies hate to hear
They probably thought if they did that, chuds would appropriate her as a weapon. Which they almost did anyway. You might have seen the Beldam/Shadow Sirens wojak edits already. Imagine if they made Beldam a full-blown femchud.
>>7802
I'd be kinda wary of commissioning someone who isn't familiar with Neptunia because of the potential for misportrayals or errors that can't be fixed once the comm is done. Alas, I don't like Iwasi's NSFW very much, and the idea of paying $100+ for comms is just something I can't wrap my head around. The Pixiv request system seems alright, but the rules about communication and loli make me wary, even if they're generally unenforced, because I don't want to be one of the unlucky few it does get enforced on.
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>>7809
Yes, commissioning art is always a risk. It's an easier risk to take if it's just 3000 to 6000 yen ($21 to $42). Taking the time to draw for yourself is a risk too, you might not be happy with the result. No matter which route you take there's a cost to creating something.
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>>7809
>They probably thought if they did that, chuds would appropriate her as a weapon. Which they almost did anyway.
On the other side of things, twitter trannies were already using Beldam posts to try and shut down critics of the localization change. Really goes to show the changes were made for all the wrong reasons. Rather than being a faithful adaptation to the Japanese script, it was done purely for culture war reasons.

It hurts Vivian's character arc. The original localization worked because it maintained the core message of the arc: Vivian is constantly alienated by her sisters, and when her enemy shows her the kindness denied to her by her own family, she becomes a turncoat. But now there's a "why" attached to that abuse, without ever showing that "why" through the abuse itself. Beldam never disparages Vivian over being a boy. Instead she projects incompetence onto Vivian, and on one occasion expresses borderline misogyny by saying the group name "Shadow Sirens" sounded stupid(They're called the "Three Shadows" in the new translation.) It's a horrible shame be cause it's the one single mark against what was otherwise a stellar remake.
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>>7810
>Yes, commissioning art is always a risk. It's an easier risk to take if it's just 3000 to 6000 yen (21 to 42 dollars). Taking the time to draw for yourself is a risk too, you might not be happy with the result. No matter which route you take there's a cost to creating something.

Honestly it was less of a pain in the ass to just learn how to make my own assets and come up with my own fanfiction. Than dealing with other artists who pretend they have no clue what you're talking about even while writing "DM with collab requests" all over their bios. You show them your portfolio, your past work, try to start something, and you either get ghosted or hit with passive aggressive attempts to demoralize you. Complete waste of time.

>>7807
>I just imagined you had a specific story or something. But yeah I agree, the wider nep fan base is lacking in creativity.

My experience with the broader Nep fanbase, got into it around 2021, was that they were mostly ban happy, brain fried coomers who didn’t actually give a damn about the series itself. Mods would nuke any decent discussion just to keep a tiny clique going. Then they’d turn around and complain about lack of engagement while spending their time circlejerking about erotic Uni fanfics in sfw platforms with their petty cliques or derailing everything with dumb arguments like whether Blanc counts as a loli and therefore can't be talked about at all for any reason.

It’s absurd when the series itself is about goofy lighthearted adventures with some fanservice. Not serious, not grimdark. I even wrote some fanfiction fleshing out the Loweean Special Forces and what life under Blanc’s rule might be like with a lighthearted spin on it coming back to a snowy cabin and things being like some of the snowy levels in SM64 with cute penguin creatures and stuff. Just wanted to contribute something fun. Apparently that was too much.
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I hate dealing with that fucking IFtard! Why aren't any of you guys here more proactive in pushing people to migrate? The sooner it happens, the sooner we can have a final solution to the IFtard problem. If/when I do get board ownership, I intend to be absolutely RUTHLESS with him if he pops up.
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>>7815
Wdym?
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The cat's already out of the bag but the more you post about this place on 4chan, the more likely you are to attract "unwanted attention." There's no way to differentiate good posters from bad ones.
Once you have moderation, I would feel better about posting on 4chan. Time will tell if you're a good mod, but I'm certainly willing  to give you a fair shake.
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>>7815
i don't really know who else to invite, it seems like everyone from the /vg/ thread who would've jumped ship already has.
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>>7815
All I can really do is keep posting here. Also, I wouldn't bitch about him so openly here, he could very well be lurking.
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>>7817
There is an extremely annoying poster on 4Cuck /nepgen/ who is known as IFtard, IFshcizo, TLOUfag, etc. He has absurd headcanons about IF and is an extreme attention whore who goes out of his way to antagonize other posters. He's been targeting me recently. See here for a bit of a rundown.
>>7729

>>7818
I'm aware, and that's part of why I've been holding off on really shilling it and keeping talk of it mostly on /meta/ boards on the archives and on other altchans likely to have good posters. The site admin has tried to contact the old BO, but from the sound of things, it may be a while before he responds, if at all.
>>7820
In fact, I'm almost certain he's lurking here. It's probably why he's doubling down on the "Blanc is a dyke for Plutia" shit on /vg/.
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>>7821
>In fact, I'm almost certain he's lurking here. It's probably why he's doubling down on the "Blanc is a dyke for Plutia" shit on /vg/.
Then why are you still talking about it? This is a schizo with aspirations of bullying, it's like blood in the water.

I understand why it makes you mad, I really do. I've had my share of outbursts. But you gotta learn to pick and choose. The IF schizo will absolutely keep preying on you if you keep showing him your anger. I'd have so much more to say but even this hidden little alcove is too public. Consider picking up some avenue of private correspondence.
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>>7821
Remember trying to use that thread and just got banned every time i used it. Some posters were nice but glad i never shared any of my fan art there.

Pathetic they are still doing that shit 4 years later.
I can talk about Ram and Rom here without bikini schizo invading.
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>>7825
You can Ram Rom to your heart's content.
>>7822
I remember people hating my LSF fanfiction too there. People were supportive but there were definitely one or two schizos who were mass reporting every post.
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what does /nepgen/ think of Omega Quintet?
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>>7822
>spoiler
I seriously hope you're not suggesting Dicksword. I hate that website and its effects on internet communities and information sharing. It almost singlehandedly made search engines useless.
>>7827
I was never aware of it. I only relatively recently started posting there (and on 4Cuck in general), but I had lurked for years and never saw such a fic posted. Personally, I prefer to imagine myself as something akin to a Maker, with the abilities and autonomy that implies.
>>7828
Haven't played it, but I'd like to get it eventually. It was released during the period when Compile Heart hit their stride (2015/16-2018, mid-late Vita era to early pre-Snoypocalypse PS4 era), so I'm expecting something at least decent.
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>>7829
i might pick it up myself eventually while on sale, good to know it might be potentially decent
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>>7827
Forgive my ignorance, but what is LSF supposed to be short for?

>>7829
I was not explicitly suggesting discord, no. But any means of private correspondence would be preferable if you want to speak at length about problems potentially lurking this thread.
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>>7831
I'm not sure what would be suitable. Do you have any suggestions? Preferably ones that don't require an account/sign-in?
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>>7829
>I was never aware of it. I only relatively recently started posting there (and on 4Cuck in general), but I had lurked for years and never saw such a fic posted. Personally, I prefer to imagine myself as something akin to a Maker, with the abilities and autonomy that implies.

It was fairly obscure and jannies quickly banned it for no reason. Don't need to tell you how trigger happy most 4cuck jannies are anyway with the random 3 day bans.

>>7831
>Forgive my ignorance, but what is LSF supposed to be short for?

Loweean Special Forces... 

>I was not explicitly suggesting discord, no. But any means of private correspondence would be preferable if you want to speak at length about problems potentially lurking this thread.

Having actually jannied on the webring before, it would be better to use a separate email you keep track of for that. Though YMMV if the other person responds in a timely manner within a week. Would obviously advise against discord as they really hate blanc for no reason
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>>7832
Email is all that really comes to mind. Can't think of anything that wouldn't require an account of some sort.
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>>7835
Since I figured I would eventually need an e-mail anyway, I went ahead and made a new one. It's on a bit of a funny site, but it's a site that's fairly well-known in imageboards, so it should work, at least for things like this.

loweeanperspective@waifu.club
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>>7837
I sent you an email. Should be obvious enough that it's me.
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I see im just going to be ignored. Fuck you too
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>>7839
I didn't mean it like that, sorry. Just didn't have anything else to say once you told me what LSF stood for.
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The Neptunia soldiers are really cute, both their battle/patrol clothes and their dress uniforms. Would have been nice to get one with a little screen time.
I was surprised when I was first fighting these in the games. It wasn't a monster, just a regular person. I did my best not to fight any. Shouldn't the goddesses be reluctant to kill them? Really weird.
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>>7841
>Shouldn't the goddesses be reluctant to kill them?
If you turn your weapon or your business AGAINST the goddess, you lose her protection and potentially become her mark. This is relatively consistent.
>>7842
I was looking for the Planeptune BDU a couple of days ago but I did not remember what episode they showed up, so thanks for posting these.
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>>7841
I guess if they're soldiers of Lowee, they have anti-goddess training? Which probably accounts to "run away because you can't do shit to her anyways". But on the other hand I see Neptune taking care to just knock them out rather than outright destroying them like monsters might.
Also worth noting (in my opinion) is this Vert skin... F4 Phantom? I wonder if Gamindustri airforces are mostly just ground attack since they'd probably need to fight more monsters than they do other nations.
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>>7846
I am not sure what it is or if it is even anything real but I can say with certainty that it is not an F-4 Phantom variant. The tail is too tall and the wings are too thin. The horizontal stabilisers at the rear are also straight as opposed to angled on the F-4. Not sure what they are called but it does have those things that allow planes to carry suspended armament or drop tanks on it so I guess it could be a ground attack craft. No visible gun from this angle though, so it could just be a civilian or non combat plane.
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>>7847
I think the tail and engine shape is what made me think of it. Also AC6 is 360 exclusive and has idolmaster skins, so it makes lots of sense to reference it. It's also the one I haven't played (and the 3DS/PSP ones but I mean the numbered ones) so I don't know if the F4 is playable there. 
Speaking of Leanbox, they have ODSTs according to the manga so yeah what the hell does the Leanbox military do? Do they have the biggest budget? That'd be funny.
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>>7848
Yeah the engines would trick people at a glance. I am surprised Bandai were shoving Idolm@ster into everything as early as Ace Combat 6, I thought that was something they started doing within the last decade. I recently got into the series, played the PS1 games and finished 7 since that was what my dad bought, fun games 3 is currently my favourite.
>ODSTs
Did they actually show them? This also means Leanbox, in the manga at least, has space capable transport and a space station.
I really wish the military got more than just brief mentions in the games and the very short scenes they had in the anime. Would love to see what they are actually like, their weapons, equipment and vehicles.
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>>7849
My favorite is Zero, there's a reason why they call it the holy PS2 trilogy and in my opinion it's a perfect cap.
>Did they actually show them?
Yeah, pic related. Although they don't reference a drop, they do say that there's a Leanbox satellite in space so they can do at least that.
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>>7838
I replied. If it doesn't show up, check your spam folder. I've heard Gmail has a tendency to flag mail from this service as spam.
>>7839
Sorry, but I'm just not an avid fanfic reader. We're not trying to shun you.
>>7841
At least some of the soldier-type enemies in the games might be androids/gynoids. They tend to show up in factories and other industrial settings and drop lumps of metal when defeated.
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>>7852
I find it weird how in SvS a lot of the enemies are robotic versions of the CPUs. I understand part of it is just Compa laziness but at least if they were only Purple Heart and Sister bots I could understand they were, like, security bots gone berserk but there's also Roms and Verts so what the hell?
>>7850
I already downloaded everything besides 6 so I can play them whenever. Kind of been putting it off the past few days.
>Mister Chief
I wonder what his name was in the original, unfortunately my mind immediately goes to 5s Requisition packs seeing that. That aside though it is cool to see an explicit Halo reference  even if I am not really into the games anymore. I hope that gun is a bullpup. I have no idea what SMD or OB is though.
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>>7855
HDN also gives Hoop: Reach and I swear there was a Halo chirper in RB3 and VII too.
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>>7856
I should have specified in the JP script, sorry. Originally that blog entry is just about a new game releasing, nothing specific. Pretty sure the entry is also just called "Release Date", not played 2010 for a bit. I do not know when the script was done but since the game released before Reach it is possible it could have been that.
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>>7855
Does that mean Mister is a rank in the Leanbox military?
>>7834
I would give this story a try.
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>>7857
Ah. Yeah no idea.
>>7858
I haven't actually played any of the Halo games but I believe "Master chief petty officer" is both John 117's rank in Halo and a real thing in some IRL militaries.
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>>7858
Would be worth a chuckle, especially if loads of chicks get to that rank.
>>7859
Do you know what chapter this is in? I assume I can find it on one of those manga sites.
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>>7860
I know it's Megami Tsuushin Vol. 3 but I don't know the chapter itself. I'm sure you can find it in mangadex or even this site.
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>>7861
That is enough, cheers. If it is here that will be a pleasant surprise, saves me having to go to mangadex too.
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>>7852
Yup, it was flagged as spam. Gonna have to figure out a permanent solution to that. I'll reply shortly.
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>>7863
I replied again. If you found a solution to Google flagging my mail as spam, I'd like to stop announcing my replies here. It feels a bit awkward.
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>>7517 (OP) 
>Dungeon crawling RPG MADO MONOGATARI: Fia and the Wondrous Academy will launch for PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, and Switch on July 29 in the west, publisher Idea Factory International announced. It will feature English and French subtitles with Japanese voice-overs. 
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/05/mado-monogatari-fia-and-the-wondrous-academy-launches-july-29-in-the-west
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>>7865
this is probably my second most anticipated release of the year after derq z, i'm happy we finally have a release date. $93 for the LE is a bit steep, though...
checking IFI's site, it also looks like they misspelled carbuncle's name as "carbunkle", which is weird.
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>>7864
Oh, yes, I did, thank you. I added your email as a contact so it shouldn't appear as spam anymore.

>>7866
I have seen the "Carbunkle" spelling in certain Final Fantasy translations, for whatever that's worth.
>>7865
>Iffy being a retard and not putting it on PC again
Poor dumb iffy
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I wonder how long games will continue coming out for Switch 1. It makes sense, just like there are still some ps4 games coming out, Switch 1 would be enough for many games and Switch 2 will still be compatible with them.
>>7868
You can still play it on PC since there's a Switch version. I'm sure a lot of people do that, and I did so when Game Maker and Riders came out. I get the feeling many people are emulating because it's their only way to play the game, but then they don't buy it later. Can't buy on NSO anyway. I was waiting for PC releases, but others might just move on. 
So how many lost sales does it equate to, and is it worth properly porting the game? Is there more piracy of switch than of proper PC version? I don't know, but I kinda get it if some company decides making the Windows version is not worth it.
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>>7868
Give it time. I can't think of a single IF/CH game released in the past seven years that hasn't seen a PC release eventually, aside from the Switch-exclusive Eastasiasoft releases.
>>7869
I'm surprised they're even still making games for Switch at all. Nintendo is wearing their newfound hatred for Japanese moe anime-style games on their sleeve. I suspect this was in development before the Re;Births getting blocked made IFI realize Nintendo had become hostile to them, and so I predict this and Calamity Angels may be their last releases on Nintendo consoles. I don't expect any (attempted) Switch 2 releases from them.
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>>7845
>BDU
As I look at them more, I you can easily see Planeptune and Lowee combat uniforms, but I don't know if we have Leanbox and Lastation ones. The yellow soldiers are from Eden (they geared up surprisingly fast).
Also, the anime original designs are so strong. Not making more seasons of anime might be the worst missed opportunity of this series. I would love to have original arcs set in the main universe that actually matter as anime.
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>>7870
>I don't expect any (attempted) Switch 2 releases from them.
That's leaving a lot of money on the table in their home market. Especially considering that NoJ's content policies are no worse than SIE's at this point. It's NoA that's gone further. What's more likely to happen is multiplat releases will continue and the Switch/Switch 2 versions will either be withheld from the west or further censored like the costumes in Riders VS Dogoos.
>>7871
I know about the Lowee Soldier enemy but I do not remember seeing anything else military styled specifically for landmasses or nations.
>anime original
Parade uniforms aside I do not remember any off the top of my head.
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 You really should have just posted a reply here first instead of telling me to reply here myself. I checked this thread before checking the other site. Anyways, without further ado:

>Yes, I know, but legendaries are supposed to have some prestige attached to them, or they wouldn't be so damn hard to catch. So it seems strange when the game seemingly denies them that prestige.
I would argue that a good pseudo has more prestige than a low tier legendary. Especially when we're talking Tyranitar. Not only do pseudos have higher BST but actually getting one requires more work than a beast legendary. You can start encountering the beasts the moment you reach Ecruteak City IIRC whereas you don't even get a whiff of Larvitar's existence until you're at Mt. Silver. And it's at a 5% encounter rate meaning you could go the whole dungeon without seeing one. I have, in repeated playthroughs, before I made it a habit to carry repels even. Then on top of all that you have to raise it, put work into it, which shows that Evice's Tyranitar likely once had a loving and dedicated trainer. In a way it's the ultimate example of the tragedy of Shadow Pokemon, corrupting all that love and dedication into something monstrous.

I'll have to concede that a box legendary objectively brings more prestige but my god is Shadow Lugia gimped by those shadow moves.
>I figured you'd bring this up.
Because it shows that "prestige" factor you keep bringing up is worthless without the struggle. It's the struggle that makes a boss worthwhile. The most memorable bosses are gonna be the toughest, which is why Red is so revered for his Mt. Silver encounter despite using no legendaries or pseudos, even packing an unevolved Pikachu.
>I do too, but the fact it barely hints at what you're supposed to do is annoying. Would you have figured that out without a guide?
Probably not, but I liked that games had secrets to discover. One of my favorite things growing up was finding a post-game dungeon in Digimon World that wasn't even mentioned in the strategy guide. Most players would never find it even given the game's inherently esoteric nature, difficulty, and your average player's habit of calling a game finished after reaching the credits.
>The way it gives you Ho-oh also makes it impossible to SR for a decent nature or IVs, which also annoys the hell out of me since to try again, you have to go through the whole game AND Mt. Battle AGAIN!
This is a pain in the dick, admittedly, which is why I consider MATTLE Ho-Oh more of a collectible than anything else. And it has more worth than your average Ho-Oh alone thanks to all the hoops you have to jump through. That said, one of the nicer things I can say about modern Pokemon is this became a non-issue. Shame it just had to come with dexit. I'm lowkey hoping that the new battle focused game they announced is intended to remedy dexit. I know it has the same disclaimer, so I know not to expect any better, but I'm still hoping.
>Towns don't typically have trainers for you to battle and rebattle. Gyms are a separate matter and are typically one-offs.
So towns don't have trainers for you to battle, except when they do but they don't count ;) But I'll cut right to the heart of the issue, the exploration factor is gone from Colosseum and Gale of Darkness, and similarly it's gone from modern Pokemon. Despite moving towards open world bullshit lmao
>I won't deny the game could have used more dungeons like the Cipher bases, but I'm fine with what we got.
So am I but my stance this whole time is that Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are companion pieces to gen III rather than standalone games. A lot of flaws can be excused when your game isn't supposed to be the best foot forward into a new generation.
>The Wild Area was just one single area in a larger game.
Let's not go into denial, it was GF's first dip into designing an open world area. "one single area in a larger game" that just happens to span a massive chunk of the region, that the entire endgame before DLC was intended to be built around, even. There's another aspect you can argue was somewhat ambitious: The fact that they even had a persistent endgame in mind, and one focused on cooperative play with other players. Max raids were shit and repetitive as hell, but I see the intent. And my opinion is I think they should have focused on making a good Pokemon game before trying to shoot for the moon with this new and janky shit.
>I remember the rain forest stage also being ridiculously long. But also strangely comforting to play through.
There was hardly any comforting to me about those black frogs that summoned corrosive rain.
>You wouldn't be able to play all of the stages without several playthroughs.
No shit, and thanks to the route design early game is always repetitive as shit. It's terrible design.
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>>7873
I'm sure there's two Lastation soldiers who almost get killed by a random monster in VII.
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>>7875
Do they have a sprite though?
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>>7875
Did they have any visuals or were they just silhouettes?
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>>7877
A head portrait, I believe.
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>Not only do pseudos have higher BST but actually getting one requires more work than a beast legendary. You can start encountering the beasts the moment you reach Ecruteak City IIRC whereas you don't even get a whiff of Larvitar's existence until you're at Mt. Silver
You might have a point here if the beasts were normal legendaries, but they're roamers. There's a reason many guides say to save your Master Ball for the roaming legendary if the game has one. Even worse, they have Roar, which means even if you get a trapper, they can just Roar you away and the game counts that as if you selected the Run command, meaning they're gone forever. GameFAQs has a whole guide on everything you need to do to get around Raikou/Entei's Roar in FR/LG and it is a lot of fucking work. Catching and even training Larvitar is almost trivial in comparison.
>Because it shows that "prestige" factor you keep bringing up is worthless without the struggle. It's the struggle that makes a boss worthwhile.
Fine, I'll concede this, but Greevil was still a cool as hell final boss and was definitely memorable to me. Especially if you try to snag all his Shadow Pokemon in one go. I managed that once. XD was also overall a better game than Colosseum.
>Probably not, but I liked that games had secrets to discover.
I did too, and I hate that they've basically been replaced with DLC. But I still think Lugia in XD was implemented and built up better than Ho-oh in Colosseum.
>So towns don't have trainers for you to battle, except when they do but they don't count 
Not rebattlable ones like the ones in Colosseum/XD. Whose teams also evolve as you progress through the games. In the mainline games, the rebattlable trainers are on the routes and you often need to use an item (the DexNAV in RSE, the VS Seeker in FRLG and DPP). XD/Colosseum do not require any items, you just leave and reenter the area. And if they aren't enough for you, there's Mt. Battle, which is one of my favorite facilities in Pokemon. Mt. Battle even has dedicated EV Training hotspots where the trainers all use Pokemon that give a certain EV.
>the exploration factor is gone from Colosseum and Gale of Darkness
I'm not sure where you're getting this. I had a fun time poking around the areas and opening chests, especially in the Cipher bases. It being in 3D made it better to me as well.
>my stance this whole time is that Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are companion pieces to gen III rather than standalone games.
And my stance has been that while they can be enhanced by connectivity with the GBA games, they're good enough to stand on their own as well. Unlike Stadium and PBR, which literally needed connectivity with the main games to get any real play value out of them.
>There's another aspect you can argue was somewhat ambitious: The fact that they even had a persistent endgame in mind
I think most endgames in modern Pokemon games are about setting you up for the metagame. I'd noticed this starting with X and Y, that they increasingly went out of their way to pander to metagame players, even at the expense of other things like the campaign. And while some good things came out of this (Super Training, ORAS DexNAV's search function, nature/IV fixing like what you mentioned) I think it's come at the expense of the single-player experience. EXP Share, for example, affecting all Pokemon and not being able to be turned off I think was just as much to pander to metagamers who wanted to quickly train multiple Pokemon at once as it was casuals who wanted to breeze through the game without grinding. 
>There was hardly any comforting to me about those black frogs that summoned corrosive rain.
Pretty sure you were supposed to avoid them. The other frogs and the rain they summoned was very comforting. I think some dialogue also implies there's a Chao Garden nearby.
>No shit, and thanks to the route design early game is always repetitive as shit. It's terrible design.
Look, kid/teen me loved Shadow the Hedgehog. It's been a long time since I've played it, so if I pick it back up, we'll see if my opinion changes.
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>>7879
The second one reminds me of the Re;Birth 1 version of the Brothers but with goggles. Weird that the lower rank guy has a beret. Regardless, thanks for these. I wonder if there are full images or if she just drew the heads.
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>but they're roamers
This makes them more tedious, but ultimately easy enough to play around.
>Even worse, they have Roar, which means even if you get a trapper, they can just Roar you away and the game counts that as if you selected the Run command, meaning they're gone forever.
This is a glitch exclusive to FRLG and Emerald, both of which were released after Colosseum. Even so all it means is you should be using sleep instead of trapping moves. Sleep is the most efficient status move for capturing legendaries to begin with, it really mitigates that low catch rate by so much that even balltism becomes bearable if that's your thing. An intelligent player can have all this ready long before they ever see Larvitar ingame.
>Catching and even training Larvitar is almost trivial in comparison.
If you look at it by the act alone, sure, but if you're willing to consider roaming into the equation for the beast trio, why not the fact that you have to play through GSC's entire postgame to even have a chance to see it? Larvitar is gated behind 16 badges and an elite 4 run, and while that's not difficult, it does take TIME. An efficient player could catch the beasts before ever reaching this point, although most won't because they won't go out of their way for specialized builds until they're done with the main content of the game.
>Especially if you try to snag all his Shadow Pokemon in one go. I managed that once.
That was my last playthrough.
>XD was also overall a better game than Colosseum.
More user friendly, at least. I preferred Colosseum otherwise.

Anyways, if you want the best of both worlds, PBR was a bare bones game but Mysterial easily mogs every boss in the entire franchise. Especially the version packing scarf Kyogre.
>But I still think Lugia in XD was implemented and built up better than Ho-oh in Colosseum.
Lugia wasn't much of a secret in any respect. Even after catching Shadow Lugia the game outright tells you to tryhard the purification chamber. Which was admittedly satisfying. On the other end, Ho-Oh's inclusion in Colosseum called back to the very earliest episode of the anime, catching that glimpse of things to come at the end of a harrowing event, inspiring hope, adventure, curiosity, and wonder... and the desire to catch that Pokemon.

I wonder how you feel about the Japan exclusive Celebi disc.
>Not rebattlable ones like the ones in Colosseum/XD
Gym leader rebattles were introduced in that same gen albeit after Colosseum's release. I will also point out that rebattling town trainers was obviously meant to replace wild battles as a source of exp farming.
>Mt. Battle even has dedicated EV Training hotspots where the trainers all use Pokemon that give a certain EV.
I actually didn't know this one, that's a neat touch. Good on them for implementing that.
>I'm not sure where you're getting this. I had a fun time poking around the areas and opening chests, especially in the Cipher bases. It being in 3D made it better to me as well.
It's largely a pretty on rails experience. You can snoop around for treasure but you can't find new routes off the beaten path, you can't discover new caves or dungeons, that sort of thing. You go where the game wants you to go at any given time.
>they're good enough to stand on their own as well
I don't agree. In fact, I think if either of them were released today under GF's current policies(what's catchable in the game is all you'll ever see) people would rightfully bitch about it. I still think they're good games, but it's heavily dependent on their connectivity with RSE and FRLG.
>I'd noticed this starting with X and Y, that they increasingly went out of their way to pander to metagame players, even at the expense of other things like the campaign.
The measures they've implemented for meta players are paltry compared to the absolute bloat that shit like max raids and the wild area were. No, don't blame those things on meta pandering, all they did in SWSH was add some items to make building competitive teams even easier. Whatever system dispensed these items could have been anything. It's also laughable that you think such paltry measures are actually catering to competitive. Maybe VGC players, but 6v6 has been literally unplayable ever since they introduced the hard 20 minute timer that you can't even turn off. Forced party-wide exp share is also pretty anti-meta, as it needlessly complicates EV training even if by only a smidgeon. And let's not forget how transfers have to delete their moves now, another big "fuck you" to meta players who would go out of their way to raise old gen Pokemon for movesets no longer available. Also a huge "fuck you" to event collectors given the amount of event exclusive moves. Lemme ask you something, have you even touched SWSH's battle tower? Because it's an insult. There aren't even any species restrictions. You can waltz in with a crowned Zacian and just destroy the entire facility with no challenge whatsoever. GF didn't cater to metagame players, they threw them a single bone and then did everything they could beyond that to make them feel unwelcome and unsatisfied.
>Look, kid/teen me loved Shadow the Hedgehog.
I was in my teens, too, when I played and formed these opinions. For whatever that's worth.
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It's weird that my favorite game released in the last five years has been that Space harrier clone. If they just did a higher budget version of that I think everyone would be happy. I know people are sick of spin-offs but I prefer having a bunch of low-risk-high-reward original games as opposed to a remaster every few years. I'm saying this on the tail of Uzume's game coming out.
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The dedication it must have taken to make this is impressive. I've kinda wanted more Neptunia and especially Blanc-themed decals for my gaming setup, but there are so few official ones and I'm not sure I can make one myself.
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https://www.inkedgaming.com/pages/custom-mousepads-choose-your-size-d
Many years ago I got an 18x16" mouse pad custom printed from this site. The quality was good and it has lasted pretty well at least 10 years. Just make sure you have a high resolution enough photo.
I also got some DSI XL decals from a site called Skin It. They were well made and you can choose your own image but they put the damn business logo on the product.
>>7563
BO can always  make alternate board themes.
>>7884
i got a 3-day vacation on the other place, but this is cute. i'm a little jealous.
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>>7887
What did they ban you for this time?
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>>7888
i posted literally only one reply in a thread on /b/ and it got counted as spam for some reason...
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>/b/
Well, you might take this as a learning experience. There's little to be gained from posting in /b/. It's basically just shitty porn dumps.
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>>7882
>Even so all it means is you should be using sleep instead of trapping moves.
Sleep does not prevent roamers from running away. Only trapping moves/abilities do, and you'd still need insurance against Roar because even if you can consistently keep them asleep, they still get an action on the turn they wake up, and if that action is Roar, well...
>An intelligent player can have all this ready long before they ever see Larvitar ingame.
I'm pretty sure you won't have a trapper that can consistently inflict sleep on the beasts AND survive in the ring with them while you toss Ultra Balls at least until you're very close to being able to get Larvitar. If at all without trading. 
>An efficient player could catch the beasts before ever reaching this point
The way I got the beasts in Heartgold was wearing them down over repeated encounters, then chucking a Quick Ball every time they showed up again. And I did get them before going to Mt. Silver. In fact, I think I got them before beating the Elite Four the first time. But not everyone has the patience for what I did, because it involves constantly checking their locations and flying to and fro to encounter them over and over just to chuck one Quick Ball each time. And older games didn't even have Quick Balls, so it was either Ultra Balls or Net Balls for Suicune. But then Suicune in FRLG didn't have Roar, so it was much easier to just use any trapper, preferably with a sleep move, to catch. As you said, most people won't build a specialized roamer-catching build until they're done with the rest of the game, and unless you use the method I used, you won't be catching them without that.
>PBR was a bare bones game but Mysterial easily mogs every boss in the entire franchise. Especially the version packing scarf Kyogre.
I took one look at the Masters Sets and got cold feet. My biggest accomplishment in PBR was probably beating the Courtyard Colosseum's Survival Battle. I got REALLY good at reading that wheel to land on a full heal almost every time.
>Lugia wasn't much of a secret in any respect
I'm saying it didn't need to be a secret like Ho-oh was. It was built up well as the final, ultimate Shadow Pokemon and unless you saved your Master Ball, you'll have a "fun" time snagging it. Meanwhile, Colosseum just gives you H-oh after clearing the Mt. Battle challenge and its role in the story is minimal, appearing out of nowhere after the final battle to prevent Evice from escaping.
>I wonder how you feel about the Japan exclusive Celebi disc.
Never got it, of course, nor the US Bonus disc. Last I checked, the US version was being sold on E-bay for hundreds of dollars. But why they chose to have that version give Jirachi is a mystery to me. Celebi at least has a role in the main game, and the way the JP bonus disc gives it to you is something they should have just implemented in the main game. I guess they're just allergic to handing out mythicals like that, but Lugia and Ho-oh technically fit that in that gen since they needed an event to catch in the main games. And then they later went and just made Deoxys part of the main story in ORAS, which was fucking kino, but it still makes me think they should have just given you Celebi as a reward for purifying all Shadow Pokemon instead of also needing the bonus disc. Ridiculous that they basically bullshitted western players out of getting Celebi.
>Gym leader rebattles were introduced in that same gen albeit after Colosseum's release.
They weren't consistently rematchable, it was random whether or not they'd be up for a rematch, or required doing so many battles before they would.
>I will also point out that rebattling town trainers was obviously meant to replace wild battles as a source of exp farming.
And they were a generally better source. Wild Pokemon give less EXP then Trainer Pokemon and this is common knowledge among Pokefags.
>It's largely a pretty on rails experience
For the most part, I've always kinda considered Pokemon this, but especially starting with Black and White, the games became very linear. In fact, the games were pretty linear as far back as RSE, where you are railroaded into battling the Gym Leaders in a specific order.
>In fact, I think if either of them were released today under GF's current policies(what's catchable in the game is all you'll ever see) people would rightfully bitch about it.
I don't think this. Spinoffs like Pokemon Conquest and Legends Arceus had limited availability and were still considered good games. 
>Forced party-wide exp share is also pretty anti-meta, as it needlessly complicates EV training even if by only a smidgeon. 
On the contrary, if you plan right, it lets you EV train up to six Pokemon at once versus just two previously.
>Lemme ask you something, have you even touched SWSH's battle tower? Because it's an insult. There aren't even any species restrictions. You can waltz in with a crowned Zacian and just destroy the entire facility with no challenge whatsoever.
Nope, as I said, Dexit convinced me to jump off the Pokemon train and I never really looked back. So I never played SWSH. In all honesty, I might consider SWSH's Battle Tower being easy to be a good thing, as it gives you an easy way to earn Poke Coupons to access the exclusive resources available from the post-game facilities. If you still wanted challenge, they could have implemented a separate restricted format, but judging by what you said, they didn't do that.
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Happy Monday
i like noire, i hate her company.
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genkai tokki?
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Uni's Mystique colors are so excessively cute. White with beret and glasses is especially. I wish you could wear both at once in game.
All three come with matching shimapan.
>>7893
I would like a Gamefreak maker desu
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>>7898
compa seems to really not care about anyone who isn't a tiny Japanese dev who got their start in the doujin scene.
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>>7898
Game Freak is 99% Pokemon, and Pokemon is so closely associated with Nintendo that it doesn't leave much of an identity for GF themselves. Neptunia already references Pokemon frequently (Pocketed Monstrosities) and associates it with Lowee/Blanc in general. I think Monolith Soft are a better candidate for Maker status as despite being under Nintendo, they still have their own identity and history to build from. 2nd pic related is their de facto mascot and a good base to start with.
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I need to eat Uni's special curry even if it does have cheese and secret fermented white sauce from the Lastation navy
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>>7891
>Sleep does not prevent roamers from running away.
It does, actually, so long as they're asleep. That comic you posted is funny, but it's not true to the games. That said, I'll entertain your idea for a moment...
>you'd still need insurance against Roar because even if you can consistently keep them asleep
Devil's advocate here, even if you have to reset on a roar, it's still the most effective and least tedious way to catch them. Sleep is just that good of a status. As I said before, it even makes balltism viable on such low catch rates.
>I'm pretty sure you won't have a trapper that can consistently inflict sleep on the beasts AND survive in the ring with them while you toss Ultra Balls at least until you're very close to being able to get Larvitar. If at all without trading. 
Gastly is available very early in the game. You'll need some levels to survive hits as Haunter, obviously. Or if you can self trade, Gengar actually has some pretty decent special defense and the beasts all have special STABs before gen IV.
>As you said, most people won't build a specialized roamer-catching build until they're done with the rest of the game, and unless you use the method I used, you won't be catching them without that
Yeah most people won't do it before finishing the game because they're tunnel visioning getting to the end. It's not difficult to raise a trapper/sleeper.
>But why they chose to have that version give Jirachi is a mystery to me. 
Because Wishmaker was releasing around the same time as Colosseum, and the west doesn't have any kind of analog to tanabata. You know, for the longest time they did Jirachi distributions in Japan for tanabata. Guess which game killed that?
>And then they later went and just made Deoxys part of the main story in ORAS
It's one of the few things I can praise about ORAS. Aside from that and a few other choice things, it's kind of a downgrade from Emerald.
>Ridiculous that they basically bullshitted western players out of getting Celebi.
Tell me about it. I was starving for a Celebi until the HGSS distribution. I actually purchased that Celebi disc later. With my softmodded Wii I was able to bypass region locking. Claiming them is a fucking pain though, requiring a full playthrough of JP RS every single time.
>And they were a generally better source.
Almost like the intended balance was the one time source of exp would be better than what you can farm.
>For the most part, I've always kinda considered Pokemon this, but especially starting with Black and White, the games became very linear.
It's true that from RS onward the games became more on rails over time. But you still had points of exploration, places the games didn't tell you about, things for you  to discover on your own. Even XY had one of two points like this, as bare bones as it was. It was SM and onward that really started to do away with any off the beaten path exploration.
>I don't think this. Spinoffs like Pokemon Conquest and Legends Arceus had limited availability and were still considered good games.
They had enough differences to stand out from a mainline title, and PLA still let you ship your spoils off to priso--err, I mean Home. Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are very stripped down versions of mainline Pokemon. Good for what they were back in the day, elevated by their connectivity, but they just don't work as standalone games for me. I would not have either of them in my collection if I didn't have the GBA games to connect to.
>On the contrary, if you plan right, it lets you EV train up to six Pokemon at once versus just two previously.
That's under the assumption that you're running a whole team full of the exact same build or building numerous teams at once. No, however you cut it forcing exp share on is an extremely user unfriendly policy, including for meta players. If they really cared they'd have brought back horde battles which were the best way to EV train we've ever seen.
>I might consider SWSH's Battle Tower being easy to be a good thing, as it gives you an easy way to earn Poke Coupons to access the exclusive resources available from the post-game facilities
That's the worst part. They nerfed your BP gains. Before, your BP yield per fight would gradually go up as your win streak increased. In Galar's Battle Tower, you'll get lots of BP at first as you rank up... but then once you hit master rank, you earn 2 BP per fight, that's it. You don't even get any extra for beating Leon. It's a fucking slog.
>>7901
Cheese in curry does not sound very appetising but it would be liquified so maybe it is not bad.
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I have to believe it Uni's curry>>7910
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I miss Histy.
>>7913
If she was offering I would give it a go, curry is kind of hard to fuck up.
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The chance to eat with a goddess is too exciting no matter what.
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>>7918
It would be fun to hang out but if they are not good cooks any excitement would be lost.
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I picked Re;Birth 3 back up and finally got to Chapter 10. My party is hideously overlevelled (all level 100+) and so I absolutely steamrolled Rei the last chapter with two EXE drives. Now I'm trying out Ram to see if she can replace MAGES., since she apparently has an AOE EXE drive and I've been getting a lot of mileage out of using the Drill Chip on a Disc with HDD full recovery to have Blanc delete every encounter with Hard Break and bosses with a barrage of EXE drives out the gate. The scene where they open the permanent gate between Ultradimension and Hyperdimension is bittersweet in light of how they've neglected it for so long. They say it means they'll never have to say goodbye, but in practice, Plutia and the rest of the UD characters are nowhere to be found in recent games, and any time they get an opportunity, they just shut it down (Sisters vs Sisters).
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>>7921
>and any time they get an opportunity, they just shut it down (Sisters vs Sisters).
I keep saying, I'm 100% convinced this was just to foreshadow the time travel twist. There's three different Mahos running around in the game, with two of them having experienced numerous timeline resets. As you've probably seen by now, V/RB3 stated that the open portal stabilized the flow of time between HD and UD. If we assume time travel only affects one dimension, the resets made the portal impossible to keep open, and so the portal closing was their little hint that some time shenanigans were gonna happen. I'm sure from here it'll be a convenient excuse to forget about the UD cast, but it's nice to think maybe restoring the portal might become a priority in their agenda, either off-screen or on-screen.
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I caught that when the UD goddesses all announced new consoles near the end of the game, they were clearly supposed to be the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360. So yes, it does seem like Ultradimension is starting to achieve parity with Hyperdimension in technology. I'm conflicted on this, as I feel it cuts into UD's identity as the "retro"-themed Gamindustri. They could have at least indicated it was going to follow a different path instead of slowly becoming a carbon copy of Hyperdimension.
>>7923
I'm afraid this doesn't make much sense to me. I view time travel as simply moving between coordinates on an axis, so I can't see how it would affect the UD portal. Going back in time should just cause the portal to reopen. IIRC advertising stated that the rPhone's effect on shares (which was what was keeping the gateway active) was what caused the portal to close, not time travel. Regardless, I'm speaking from a meta perspective. I'm rather confused and frustrated why they chose to keep the door to UD open figuratively and literally just to close it anytime it might become relevant. It really does feel like they're actively trying to avoid UD and its characters). If they don't come back in the next mainline, I will be convinced Compile Heart will never do anything with them again.
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Also, I hate EXE drives and 4th attack slots being locked behind Plans gotten from character challenges. I'm having to grind Ram right now to get her EXE drive and 4th attack slot and it is pretty mind numbing. Not to mention having to spend MB which is getting scarce at this point.
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>>7924
>I feel it cuts into UD's identity as the "retro"-themed Gamindustri
Keep in mind for meta context that the very next year after V's release in Japan, they announced the PS4 and Xbone. So in a way it's like they're still a whole generation behind... but on the flipside, technological parity is inevitable since the gate stayed open and would, theoretically, allow for free exchange between dimensions.
>I'm afraid this doesn't make much sense to me. I view time travel as simply moving between coordinates on an axis, so I can't see how it would affect the UD portal.
That's just one view of how time travel could work. What we do know: Time travel requires a lot of shares, and ridiculous amounts of calculations. That's why Ziri was built to handle the latter. To give you an idea of the share requirements for time travel, in her latest loops Grey Sister was using pieces of a fed Gehaburn. No, it is not from a conquest route, by default every single timeline starts from the same point. Which brings me to my next point. Future timelines are discarded after resets, rather than forming parallel timelines ala DBZ. And here is what the English website for SVS says about the UD gate and rPhones:
>In addition, the appearance of the rPhone has completely overtaken the market, and all contact with the Ultradimension has been cut off since the fall of the PC Continent.
They are mentioned together, but not explicitly related to each other. Pay extra attention to
>all contact with the Ultradimension has been cut off since the fall of the PC Continent.
The fall of the PC content is Grey Sister's reset point. It's the point she goes back to every time there's a timeline reset. My theory is that timeline resets, due to their high share costs, can only affect one dimension at a time. Now what do you think would happen to a gateway between dimensions that had so far kept time stable between them, when one of those dimensions suddenly experiences a time anomaly as massive as a timeline reset? It might disrupt that connection. By the way, as a reminder, the portal was fed shares from UD's side.

>>7925
This is unfortunately unique to RB3. Felistella felt the need to balance EXEs for some reason, which included giving everyone their own individuals gauges so you couldn't feed your favorite party members meter, and then locking their EXE behind challenges. RB1 and RB2 were more like V IIRC where EXE gauge was shared and everyone unlocked theirs at a given level.
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i think i might actually start primarily posting here from now on. the IF schizo i can tolerate, but those fucking gacha posters make me want to start a genocide. i could've sworn posting off-topic was a bannable offense.
on that note, what have you guys been doing recently? any games you've been playing? anime you've been watching? music you're listening to?
i'm trying to beat Reynatis before my copy of Code Z comes in, i got an email saying that they're preparing to ship it soon so i really need to "get my ass in gear, you prick!" as Blanc would put it.
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>>7928
For me it's the people who overlay cuck porn over the images but put them at .001 alpha transparency so they can jerk off about it in their /trash/ thread.
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Still playing Re;Birth 3, in the middle of Chapter 10, need to grind Ram's character challenges to get her up to par. Yes, I am a slow gamer. It almost always takes me at least a month to finish a game. 
Presently about to blow a fucking gasket over learning about Nintendo's motivations for banning Compile Heart games (they're staffed by Dr. Pizza clones that unironically think moe anime = pedophilia). And that Compile Heart will probably just take this as a cue to further sanitize their games of all fanservice and make their characters all have the same body types instead of growing a fucking pair and telling Nintendo to piss off. They're literally insulting a decent chunk of their user and publisher base up to this point and labeling them all as sex criminals. And this is supposedly a Japanese company, using the same arguments as Steam jannies. It fucking sickens me! I hate these spiteful fucking subhumans with every fiber of my being and if I ever get a chance I WILL [redacted]!
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>>7930
They should just liquidate their foreign branches and lay off every western employee because that's where this shit is coming from.
>>7930
I didn't hear about this, what the fuck? So if you're too short, you're underaged now.
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>>7932
It's literally the art style. Key attempted to publish Kanon on Switch in the west (CERO B game, by the way), and were evidently told they either had to change the character designs to make them look not "underage", or remove anything resembling intimacy. They chose the latter. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs was also barred a western release on Switch (and Switch only) despite being a T-rated game and already being even more censored than on Snoystation because the artstyle is "moe" and therefore pedophilia to them. Anything with a cutesy "moe" anime art style is going to be subjected to this if it tries to release on Switch now. Nintendo have somehow outdone Steam jannies in being retarded fucking amygdalalets.
Apparently steam version is also censored
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>>7934
Wait that's a different game, my mistake. So many things are turning to garbage that it's hard to keep track of it all.
Yeah after spending the last couple hours looking for more information I can just confidently say I'm probably not getting the switch 2. If dumb Iffy and Compa still want to neuter their games for it, they 'll have to count one of the last few of their fans out until it hits Steam unedited (but this is looking more and more likely not to happen)
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>>7936
I think I'll save the same money for a graphics card. Within a few years, if we're lucky, we might have a switch 2 emulator.
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>>7936
>Compile Heart will probably just take this as a cue to further sanitize their games of all fanservice and make their characters all have the same body types instead of growing a fucking pair and telling Nintendo to piss off.
i think the more likely scenario is just that we'll return to the wii/ds/3ds dark ages where certain games like the litany of galge and VNs that were on the (3)ds just don't get brought over. remember, this seems to be specific to nintendo of america, and american fans seem to want this to a certain extent, one of the biggest complaints about the switch eshop was "there's too much softcore hentai shovelware" because these people can't seem to just use the search bar and refuse to just ignore things they're not interested in. 
i remember posting about the neptunia re;birth thing to a d*cord i'm in, and one guy responded with "nothing of value was lost".
god i hate western nintendo fans. 
to my knowledge, most of these games exist just fine on the switch in japan (er, last defense academy(?) and a handful of other specific examples notwithstanding). i'm more worried about sony and steam, since compile heart actually tries to appease those two when they can.
i'm...honestly confused as to how derq z seems to be releasing without issue on those platforms, it's shaping up to be the most risque derq out of them all, is it just because it has gore?
that aside, i'm not particularly fond of any of this either, and i'm with >>7937 on heavily considering just jumping ship to PC, despite genuinely disliking that whole ecosystem. i'm mostly just worried about how stuff like this on the western side in general is going to be handled from here on. there seems to be a growing cultural disdain for anything even slightly sexualized and/or anime-styled here, steam isn't the safe haven PC gamers seem to think it is, and japanese developers seem to feel pressured to put their games on steam (and sometimes neuter their games in the process) to appease the western market who just pirates their games anyway because that's a whole ouroboros situation of nobody ever being satisfied with PC releases. i'm really, desperately hoping more and more JP devs, if they're going PC, consider either putting the game up on a dedicated website or using something alternative, like mangagamer, JAST, DLsite, or what have you.

being an actual JRPG fan is hard.

also that cute aggression image reminds me of that one time i posted it to 4/a/, and the guy i responded to called me a cocksucking faggot or something because he was one of those people that's like "anime is so GAY now, unlike my manly man anime from the 90s!". i question why i still use 4chan.
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>>7936
>until it hits Steam unedited (but this is looking more and more likely not to happen)
Yeah, they've just been refusing to include any content that they think might trip Snoy's censors since 2020. Even Mary Skelter Finale had the purging minigame removed and Blood Skelter outfits censored across all platforms, as well as having fewer and more boring CGs than the first two games. It's making me rather frustrated with their direction. I understand their predicament, but you can't just ignore what you've built your company on for the last decade. That's what your fans are here for, that's what they want, and shit like >>7662 will not satisfy them and will more likely alienate them. Calamity Angels looks a little better, but the CERO B rating does not amuse me. Every single Neptunia game, even Riders, has had a CERO C, and those aren't standout examples of risqueness, so it makes me wonder just how sterilized it's going to be.
>>7938
>one of the biggest complaints about the switch eshop was "there's too much softcore hentai shovelware"
Which they aren't seriously targeting, it's still flooding the e-shop. All they did was change the ranking system to make it harder for them to get onto the best sellers lists. 
>most of these games exist just fine on the switch in japan
Keyword "most". Do not forget what happened to Tokyo Clanpool.
>i'm...honestly confused as to how derq z seems to be releasing without issue on those platforms, it's shaping up to be the most risque derq out of them all
Gore-wise, perhaps, but from what I could tell, it has little to no substantial fanservice. The Glitch Girls' designs are based off the censored Glitch Mode designs from DERQ 2, and the pre-order/promo bonuses have absolutely nothing risque among them, which is saying something since even those giant pussies at Koei Tecmo still put some fanservice in their promos and pre-order bonuses for Atelier even if the actual games are sterile. At least I can't fault Compa for false advertising there.
>i'm really, desperately hoping more and more JP devs, if they're going PC, consider either putting the game up on a dedicated website or using something alternative, like mangagamer, JAST, DLsite, or what have you.
That's basically what qureate does nowadays. Regardless of the situation, sterilizing your games of so many things that made them appealing to begin with is not the way to stay in your fans' good graces. I religiously buy uncensored Compage because I love that special brand of moe-drenched otaku JRPG with humor (and sometimes edge) and lots of fanservice. I want Compile Heart to keep making that, because that's what I like from them, it's what got me into them, and I'm sure most people who are into them would say the same. And if I gotta sign up for some relatively obscure PC site to get them because Nintendo decided to be fucking pricks, then damn it, that's what I'll do!
>also that cute aggression image reminds me of that one time i posted it to 4/a/, and the guy i responded to called me a cocksucking faggot or something because he was one of those people that's like "anime is so GAY now, unlike my manly man anime from the 90s
Some people just won't "get" bishoujo game or moe or their appeal. That's one of the points the screencapped post is making. They literally lack the capacity to process it in the same way we do. That's why arguing with them is mostly futile; you'll never convince them, because they physically cannot see it the way you do. The only reason to continue engaging with them is to convince an audience that is presumed to be watching.
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>>7926
>Keep in mind for meta context that the very next year after V's release in Japan, they announced the PS4 and Xbone.
Compile Heart wouldn't have had any way of predicting that, so it doesn't count.
>technological parity is inevitable since the gate stayed open and would, theoretically, allow for free exchange between dimensions.
Even more, the ultimate processor sets for Blanc, N*ire and Vert are the standard ones their HD counterparts use, which adds to my point since they encourage you to make them even closer to their HD counterparts. If CH ever revisits Ultradimension, they should address this. Is the fate of Ultradimension to become a carbon copy of Hyperdimension if the gate between them stays open? If so, is the gate really a good thing?
>Time travel requires a lot of shares, and ridiculous amounts of calculations.
>By the way, as a reminder, the portal was fed shares from UD's side.
I am once again having trouble following. If UD is what's sustaining the gate, why would something on the HD side affect it? And if time is merely "resetting" rather than being altered, why would that affect the gate? It should just reopen when time resets. The only way it makes sense to me is if Grey Sister's method of time travel somehow "damages" the timestream when resetting it. In that case, though, the effects should be far more severe than merely closing a portal between dimensions.
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>Compile Heart wouldn't have had any way of predicting that, so it doesn't count.
On the contrary, there was a healthy rumor mill about next gen consoles going on at the time, something even referenced in VII through Affimojas and Steamax. The 3DS and Vita were already out, the Wii U's release was weeks away, and the 7th console generation had been the longest in recent memory at the time. The whole market was itching for new hardware.
>If so, is the gate really a good thing?
Two Blancs is a great thing.
> If UD is what's sustaining the gate, why would something on the HD side affect it? And if time is merely "resetting" rather than being altered, why would that affect the gate? It should just reopen when time resets.
It's a very simple concept. Time continues to flow normally in UD, whereas the resets in HD are each a massive disruption in the flow of time. My theory is that such a disruption was enough to close off the connection. If you think of time like a river, constantly flowing from the past to the future, then think of the portal as UD and HD holding onto each other. One gets sent back, the other keeps going, they cannot stay together, so the connection is lost. The portal closes.
>The only way it makes sense to me is if Grey Sister's method of time travel somehow "damages" the timestream when resetting it.
I could be misremembering, but IIRC Future Maho's time traveling did cause a big anomaly at the reset point. I also  recall Future Maho falling into a tear in spacetime that made her turn up as the party's Maho with amnesia. So yes, there is some seriously damaging shit going on here.
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>>7941
>On the contrary, there was a healthy rumor mill about next gen consoles going on at the time
Rumors don't count for much. The gen doesn't actually shift until the consoles are released. The Switch 2 had been rumored for years before it was finally announced.
>Two Blancs is a great thing.
You seem pretty one-track minded when it comes to Blanc. I almost envy it. But I digress. Ultradimension and UD Blanc will exist whether the gate stays open or not, just that travel between the two dimensions will be much more difficult if it isn't. On a meta level, the gate hasn't meant much since CH has refused to actually do anything with UD for years. When was the last time UD Blanc made an appearance, again? Fucking Hyperdevotion (technically)?
>It's a very simple concept. Time continues to flow normally in UD, whereas the resets in HD are each a massive disruption in the flow of time. My theory is that such a disruption was enough to close off the connection. If you think of time like a river, constantly flowing from the past to the future, then think of the portal as UD and HD holding onto each other. One gets sent back, the other keeps going, they cannot stay together, so the connection is lost. The portal closes.
Okay, now it's making sense to me. But I still think they just wanted an excuse to write UD and its characters out.
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my copy of Code Z has shipped...
i was afraid it'd ship on the day of release so i'd get it late, but it seems like it'll get here on the day of. i'm really excited...
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>>7942
>Rumors don't count for much
I disagree in this one particular case 7th console gen had a lot of firsts, including lasting beyond the general 4 - 5 years that most console generations did up to that point. It was legitimately a different time.
>You seem pretty one-track minded when it comes to Blanc.
She's been in my head continuously for nearly thirteen years now. I wish I could say longer but I just didn't have a PS3 when Neptunia first came westward.
>On a meta level, the gate hasn't meant much since CH has refused to actually do anything with UD for years.
This isn't totally true. If anything it's been referenced every time they looked back at the main continuity. It was referenced several times in VII between Rei's evil power being a mcguffin and hints of both Plutia and Anonydeath arranging backup from behind the scenes IIRC. And then 4GO had UD characters outright appearing between Plutia, Peashy, Arfoire, and Warechu. It's not even a case of they're just there, they even reference other dimensions  IIRC. And then you have SVS, which we've already discussed.
>But I still think they just wanted an excuse to write UD and its characters out.
I believe if that were the intent, it never would have been mentioned. They'd have just pretended it didn't exist.
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>>7938
>i'm...honestly confused as to how derq z seems to be releasing without issue on those platforms, it's shaping up to be the most risque derq out of them all, is it just because it has gore?
that aside, i'm not particularly fond of any of this either, and i'm with >>7937 on heavily considering just jumping ship to PC, despite genuinely disliking that whole ecosystem.
There's a lot to hate about PC and its ecosystem, the fact nothing "just werks" despite what people say about it. Sadly, this scourge of requiring multiple layers of setup has found consoles as well. It's like they're trying to bring the worst parts of all consoles to every console. 
What broke me out of my funk and kept me from hating consoles altogether was, unironically, the Steam Deck. Linux doesn't play everything, but I took the time to look up the stuff I would play, and found that it fit my niche perfectly. I found a very specific use case I was comfortable with, and feel content to just stay here and play what comes my way instead of forcing myself to enjoy what other people are liking. Other people's enjoyment and the fear of missing out are the path to feeling like you have to game as a necessity.  

I'm not saying anyone else should buy one, but I am saying that I think the path to happiness is finding the niche in gaming that you enjoy and rigidly sticking to that instead of worrying about the ecosystem as a whole. Gaming just isn't a fun place to be right now. It's being perverted to rely on exploiting your emotions where you feel gaming is a duty, not a silly pasttime.  

My ip changed after a power outage btw so my ID probably did too.
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>>7945
dumb anri dropped her dumb greentext. I meant to quote this line 
>that aside, i'm not particularly fond of any of this either, and i'm with >>7937 on heavily considering just jumping ship to PC, despite genuinely disliking that whole ecosystem.
On the topic of Anri, How did Sisters v Sisters do? I like her design even if I didn't beat her game.
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>>7947
It's an enjoyable nep story. It was fun to see the new models and animations and the town. Anri and Maho are both good girls, I hope they return in the next game although if they do they'd be "AU" versions. The gameplay is really ass, both in traversal and battle. I hope this is not the template they go with for the new game.
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It seems silly they keep trying to reinvent Nep when the turn based RPG formula worked so well
>>7948
That's good, I should finish it. I'm glad they're good girls and that Anri's dress really is see-through.
>>7948
Honestly thought the gameplay was fine, but than again I never finished it. I prefer victory/rebirth style gameplay. Feel like 4GO had really fun and spammy gameplay, shame it was never replicated in later nep games. It was nice to see new models and everything for the neps rather than another asset-flip.
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>>7951
The maps are very big, but your walk speed is pretty slow. Gets old fast. This is improved with the bike in GMRE, but I don't like GMRE's story as much.
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A bit late, but happy Mother's Day /nep/. All of the pregnant Blanc pics I had were already posted (and most were NSFW anyway), so instead, here's Plutia with her adopted kids IF, Compa and Peashy.
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For a Mother's Day topic, I am thinking again about how Blanc would be as a mother. Her relationship with her sisters Rom and Ram makes her come off as a mom to them sometimes. A fairly strict, sometimes busy, but still loving and fiercely protective mom. I think it's safe to assume that would carry over to any children she had. UD Blanc has some experience raising children gained helping Plutia raise Peashy, Compa and IF, but she never really had the kind of relationship with them that Plutia and Neptune did. One thing concerns me, and that is how UD Blanc nearly exploded at poor Peashy over an innocent comment she made about her breasts as Yellow Heart while hosting Nepstation with Blanc. It was awful to watch, both for Peashy who nearly was on the wrong end of Blanc's wrath just over a childish comment when anyone could see she meant no harm or insult, and for Blanc whose insecurities run so deep that she nearly went after a small child. It makes me wonder how she would handle it if her issues came into play with her children, like if her daughter ended up bigger than her in some "areas". Would she be able to keep her insecurities from destroying her relationship with her own daughter? Would her husband have to step in to keep something terrible from happening?
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>>7944
>I disagree in this one particular case
No matter which way you look at it, by the end of V/RB3 UD is no longer "behind" HD even without the portal connecting them. For the purposes of the game at the time it released, they were on par with the same consoles. The portal may have even sped up the process; who's to say the UD goddesses didn't come up with NEXT forms soon after the HD goddesses did? My point is thus that UD is, despite being so different in the way goddesses are born and the differing foundations of each nation, particularly Planeptune and Lowee, UD nonetheless seems to be following a similar trajectory to HD. Is it simply because three of the four important people are the same? As if to say give Blanc enough time and resources, and she'll eventually come up with the Wii (or W11 I guess, in-universe) no matter the circumstances?
>hints of both Plutia and Anonydeath arranging backup from behind the scenes IIRC.
I do not recall this.
>And then 4GO had UD characters outright appearing between Plutia, Peashy, Arfoire, and Warechu
But not the other UD goddesses. I think the point I'm trying to make is that Compile Heart isn't really using the full potential of "another Blanc/N*ire/Vert who can potentially be written a different way or interact in different ways with the other characters".
>I believe if that were the intent, it never would have been mentioned. They'd have just pretended it didn't exist.
They mentioned it once just to write it out. As I think another /nepgen/ poster put it, it really reeks of "stop asking us about this".
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>>7955
>No matter which way you look at it, by the end of V/RB3 UD is no longer "behind" HD
Except when you look at the context in which the game was released. Everyone knew next-gen hardware was coming up. Hell, mk2 had processor sets for the candidates based on the 3DS and Vita, the latter of which wasn't even out at the time. V even had the W11u hammer as a DLC weapon for Blanc. No context for the story, more likely made in the hyperdimension since the ultradimension was only just ramping up for the seventh console generation.
> Is it simply because three of the four important people are the same? As if to say give Blanc enough time and resources, and she'll eventually come up with the Wii (or W11 I guess, in-universe) no matter the circumstances?
What I think is that CH was simply trying to make their own retelling of the history of game consoles. And they fucked it up right quick by making Sega and Sony eternal besties, introducing the PC engine too late, etc. Maybe an accurate retelling would have required a much bigger role from Blanc, since even during their bad years they've commanded the attention of the whole industry.
>I do not recall this.
You wouldn't. They were pretty vague allusions, almost throwaway lines, that you wouldn't catch unless you'd already played V or RB3.
>But not the other UD goddesses. I think the point I'm trying to make is that Compile Heart isn't really using the full potential of "another Blanc/N*ire/Vert who can potentially be written a different way or interact in different ways with the other characters".
Might be because the game already had the AI goddesses. It wasn't called 4 Goddesses Online for nothing. Still, imagine three Blancs in one game...
>They mentioned it once just to write it out. As I think another /nepgen/ poster put it, it really reeks of "stop asking us about this".
It worked too well as foreshadowing for me to accept this.

>>7953
>adopted
Listen, I know what Plutia says ingame, but let's not turn away from the reality. She did not adopt those kids. They called the arrangement a daycare, al though in practice it was closer to an orphanage. Neptune and Plutia played with those kids but Nepgear and Histoire did just as much if not more to raise them. What I'm getting at is it was a communal effort. Unless you can show me clips of any of the kids calling one of the Planeptune goddesses "okaa-san", I guess.

>>7954
>One thing concerns me, and that is how UD Blanc nearly exploded at poor Peashy over an innocent comment she made about her breasts as Yellow Heart while hosting Nepstation with Blanc.
You didn't expect this after the report about loli Compa's measurements?
>Would she be able to keep her insecurities from destroying her relationship with her own daughter?
As you already readily pointed out, Blanc never had a deep relationship with Peashy. Having your own child changes most people. To a frightening degree, sometimes. I think once Blanc settles into motherhood, she might view it as her child getting the leg up she didn't get to have. But then, it'd also depend on how the daughter takes to having a bigger chest than her mother. If she starts lording it over her, then she gets the belt. But I want to believe that if I sat our child down and explained how deeply the subject affected her mother, she'd understand and refrain from even referencing it. At least until she felt like being hurtful, and then it's time for the belt.
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Happy Mother's day
Nep mother would be a disaster
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Noire mother would need some clever kids to keep from being left in the bathtub by mistake.
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>>7960
Her kids should have high enough INT not to drown in the bathtub.
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>Hell, mk2 had processor sets for the candidates based on the 3DS and Vita, the latter of which wasn't even out at the time
But had the Vita been announced at that time? Also, I thought Rom and Ram were always based on the 3DS.
>V even had the W11u hammer as a DLC weapon for Blanc.
I'd be damned if that DLC wasn't released after the Wii U was revealed, or apparently Compile Heart has industry insider knowledge.
Regardless, and I will continue pressing this point, UD and HD by the end were in the same hardware generation. You can't place an arbitrary number on how long a generation should last to say HD was a generation ahead. All CH had to go on at that time was rumors, and what if those rumors were false like they often are? DLC is irrelevant to this point as it was made after the game and its story was finalized.
>What I think is that CH was simply trying to make their own retelling of the history of game consoles
I think UD would have been better to stay as a sort of "retro dimension" based on the 80s/90s rather than having it on par with HD. Because it really makes me feel it's just going to become a copy of HD eventually.
>And they fucked it up right quick by making Sega and Sony eternal besties, introducing the PC engine too late, etc
I think this is just evidence they weren't actually interested in making an "accurate retelling".
>Maybe an accurate retelling would have required a much bigger role from Blanc, since even during their bad years they've commanded the attention of the whole industry.
That would likely require them to rewrite Chapter 3/2 and dickride Lastation less in general. Again, see my point above.
>Might be because the game already had the AI goddesses
Do AIs ACTUALLY count as another instance of Blanc/N*ire/Vert, though? I feel like whatever logic could be used to say "yes" could also be used to make things like Fake/Pseudo goddesses count as well.
>Still, imagine three Blancs in one game...
I'm already a bit disappointed that RB3 doesn't let you have the Hyperdimension goddesses in your party alongside their Ultradimension counterparts. You can have two Compas, two IFs, and two Falcoms, but not two Blancs? I understand that there's actual (gameplay) differences between the counterparts of the aforementioned three and so they likely thought it would be redundant, but still...
>Listen, I know what Plutia says ingame, but let's not turn away from the reality. She did not adopt those kids. They called the arrangement a daycare, al though in practice it was closer to an orphanage.
Daycares are a temporary arrangement. So are orphanages, or at least they're supposed to be. The facts of the matter is that whoever left Peashy, IF and Compa clearly isn't coming back for them, and Plutia has been their de facto mother figure for most of their life by the end. While you can acknowledge Nepgear and Histoire's contributions (and the other goddesses as well), it's clear that Plutia (and Neptune) imprinted on them far more than any other, and they in turn imprinted on those two. Especially Peashy. Plutia and Neptune did 90% of the work undoing her brainwashing by Anonydeath, and it wouldn't have been possible if she hadn't been so strongly attached to them.
>You didn't expect this after the report about loli Compa's measurements?
Genuinely slipped my mind. Probably because I took it as Blanc being upset that Compa, being a normal human and not an immortal goddess, could still grow unlike her. I really have trouble believing a five year old could have larger breasts than Blanc. Compa isn't even among the biggest characters in the franchise, she's *just* big. Vert, CFW Magic, and Yellow Heart all mog her, and Purple Heart is just as big. Besides, it was just shocking seeing Blanc blow up at a five-year old.
>As you already readily pointed out, Blanc never had a deep relationship with Peashy
I took it as UD Blanc being less experienced with kids in general than HD Blanc who deals with Rom and Ram's antics on a daily basis.
>Having your own child changes most people. To a frightening degree, sometimes.
I'm aware of this. It's very well known that becoming a mother or father tends to mellow people out, and it's a common theme in fiction as well. While I should be and would be happy to an extent, I do kinda hope it doesn't mellow her out TOO much.
>But then, it'd also depend on how the daughter takes to having a bigger chest than her mother.
I don't think a child of Blanc's would be arrogant like that. Blanc isn't arrogant and overbearing like N*ire and Vert tend to be. Unless she'd get it from me, in which case it'd absolutely be my responsibility to rein her in (and Blanc if she pushes her too far). I don't think I'm TOO full of myself these days, but I was definitely... rambunctious as a kid and teen, to say the least.

I sent you an e-mail a day or two ago, by the way. Did you get it? It didn't get caught by the spam filter again, did it?
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>>7958
I don't think Neptune is as irresponsible as *some* people make her out to be (e.g., Histoire). She rarely if ever fails to step up if something's truly at stake. I definitely think she would try hard to be a good mom for her kids. Even if Histoire DOES have to lend a hand sometimes, but then again, that's what she's there for anyway.
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>Also, I thought Rom and Ram were always based on the 3DS.
Nope. In fact their processor sets in mk2 are allusions to the DS lite and DSi.
>I'd be damned if that DLC wasn't released after the Wii U was revealed
Oh, absolutely, but the point of the matter is it marked the point that the whole industry was gearing up for new hardware. That is usually how it goes, someone releases new hardware and then the other hardware manufacturers are expected to respond sooner or later.
>All CH had to go on at that time was rumors, and what if those rumors were false like they often are?
Actually there were PS4 devkits already in the hands of developers in 2012.
>I think UD would have been better to stay as a sort of "retro dimension" based on the 80s/90s rather than having it on par with HD.
That would have made zero sense with the portal open and potentially devastate the entire dimension. The 3D gold rush was fucking real, it took years and years before 2D games regained any prestige beyond throwbacks made for hardware that couldn't handle 3D. Also one of the goals V had was reestablishing and reintroducing the main goddesses.
>I think this is just evidence they weren't actually interested in making an "accurate retelling".
No, just t heir own. Which we have established is flawed and inaccurate as hell.
>That would likely require them to rewrite Chapter 3/2 and dickride Lastation less in general. Again, see my point above.
There'd still be plenty of Lastation dickriding to satisfy them, PS fucking dominated the 5th and 6th console generations. By miles and miles.
>Do AIs ACTUALLY count as another instance of Blanc/N*ire/Vert, though? I feel like whatever logic could be used to say "yes" could also be used to make things like Fake/Pseudo goddesses count as well.
They're full characters in the game that you can even bring into your party. It counts.
>I'm already a bit disappointed that RB3 doesn't let you have the Hyperdimension goddesses in your party alongside their Ultradimension counterparts
I have been disappointed about this for over a decade. Best explanation I can offer is they didn't have updated assets for the battle models until RB1. Not sure how well the old model would look alongside the new, pic related.
>So are orphanages, or at least they're supposed to be.
Some kids get stuck there until adulthood... like IF and Compa did.
>and they in turn imprinted on those two
There's no evidence of this. Show me any line in the game where they call them "okaa-san" or any variation of and I'll change my mind.
>Plutia and Neptune did 90% of the work undoing her brainwashing by Anonydeath, and it wouldn't have been possible if she hadn't been so strongly attached to them.
They did the talking because they're the game's protags but I'm pretty sure they invoked memories of everyone to get Peashy back.
>Probably because I took it as Blanc being upset that Compa, being a normal human and not an immortal goddess, could still grow unlike her.
Dialog made it pretty clear she was mad about potentially being overtaken by a girl much younger than even her own physical body.
>Compa isn't even among the biggest characters in the franchise
I will remind you that in HDN even a single centimeter of difference was enough to cause Blanc to get bitter.
>It's very well known that becoming a mother or father tends to mellow people out
Maybe she'd mellow out for all of five minutes before some jackass expresses fake concerns about being able to feed the baby properly. And then we ask who the hell invited Vert and swiftly kick her out.
>I don't think a child of Blanc's would be arrogant like that.
Oh, she could get it from any number of places. TV, school, her friends, etc. All it takes is the right stimuli at the right time in her formative years to instill something neither of us would ever impart.

Oh for fuck's sake it did get sent to spam. After I made sure to add your email as a contact, too. What the fuck.
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>>7964
>Oh, absolutely, but the point of the matter is it marked the point that the whole industry was gearing up for new hardware
>Actually there were PS4 devkits already in the hands of developers in 2012.
That CH almost certainly could not reveal in any way without breaking an NDA.
I think you're missing my point. IN THE STORY ITSELF PROPER, the dimensions are portrayed as on par with each other by the end. HD did not actually hit the next generation until VII. 
>That would have made zero sense with the portal open and potentially devastate the entire dimension
I don't get what you're saying. I'm arguing from a "cultural" lens of sorts, not saying that UD should be frozen in time. If Ultradimension just becomes a copy of Hyperdimension over time, it makes less sense to make it a unique setting or to revisit it in the future. At least give some indication that UD is going to pursue a different trajectory to ensure it remains a unique setting with unique characters.
>Also one of the goals V had was reestablishing and reintroducing the main goddesses.
The only reason they even had to do that was because they made Mk2 the starting point of the now-canon timeline, which in hindsight was one of the stupidest decisions Compile Heart ever made as it has made it to where it's hard to point to a "perfect" starting point to the franchise. Start with Re;Birth 1 and its watered-down versions of the main goddesses, and which isn't even relevant to the rest of the series, or Mk2/Re;Birth 2 and the candidates with barely any personality not embodying the true spirit of the franchise? Or jump ahead and start with Re;Birth 3 which properly (re)introduces the main goddesses and the primary themes of the setting, but then you have no context from Mk2/Re;Birth 2?
>They're full characters in the game that you can even bring into your party
I was speaking character-wise. Are they REALLY Blanc/Vert/N*ire? If, say, a Fake/Pseudo-goddess is made playable, would they count under this criteria?
>Some kids get stuck there until adulthood... like IF and Compa did.
IF and Compa never actually left Planeptune's Basilicom. Their parents never came to get them, they've lived and worked out of it their entire lives, it is, for all intents and purposes, their home now. Same with Peashy.
>There's no evidence of this. Show me any line in the game where they call them "okaa-san" or any variation of and I'll change my mind.
I shouldn't need to. They don't have to literally call Plutia mommy for it to be clear that Plutia has taken the role of a mother to them. Especially Peashy since she remained a kid. The only one she actually calls mommy is Rei, and that's just because of Anonydeath's brainwashing.
>They did the talking because they're the game's protags but I'm pretty sure they invoked memories of everyone to get Peashy back.
They did, but most of that was still Plutia and Neptune. I don't think anyone else could have pulled it off. It's them that Peashy runs to the arms of when she finally remembers.
>Dialog made it pretty clear she was mad about potentially being overtaken by a girl much younger than even her own physical body.
And I still find this hard to believe because otherwise Compile Heart are saying Compa's puberty started at the ripe age of 5.
>I will remind you that in HDN even a single centimeter of difference was enough to cause Blanc to get bitter.
Yes, I was actually thinking about that when I brought it up. Oh Blanc, I swear it seems at times she actually thinks she's ugly when that couldn't be further from the truth.
>Maybe she'd mellow out for all of five minutes before some jackass expresses fake concerns about being able to feed the baby properly
I actually meant to bring this up in the Mother's Day post. As far as I know, breast size doesn't affect the ability to produce milk, so is it safe to assume Blanc will breastfeed her infant? Or will she be too embarrassed for... obvious reasons?
>Oh, she could get it from any number of places
I suppose cutting her off from such negative influences is not an option?

What's the solution this time? Do I have to tell you every time I send an e-mail now?
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>>7965
>That CH almost certainly could not reveal in any way without breaking an NDA.
They didn't have to, it was international news when devkits started going out. Like it always is.
>I think you're missing my point.
Oh no, I get your point, but my point is you can't ignore the context the story was released in. And I believe that certain pieces or equipment reference upcoming hardware supports this.
>I don't get what you're saying.
I'm saying that if UD remained a retro themed dimension stuck in the 80s/90s, then the entire dimension would be devastated as all of their followers migrate to HD for the newer and shinier technology.
>which in hindsight was one of the stupidest decisions Compile Heart ever made as it has made it to where it's hard to point to a "perfect" starting point to the franchise.
Agreed. Mk2 is my least favorite among the mainline, it's just not fun. Also, Rom deserves to be slapped for daring to imply Nepgear is even comparable to family.
>Are they REALLY Blanc/Vert/N*ire? If, say, a Fake/Pseudo-goddess is made playable, would they count under this criteria?
Their personalities are built directly off of the originals. That's something said explicitly in-game. They start out acting a bit too... divine? But as they integrate into the party and mingle with their real selves they start to show more and more of the Goddesses' personalities. Compared with the fakes, who will get details straight up wrong, overexaggerate traits, or fail to replicate them entirely. Comparing faithful recreations with a blatant allegory for counterfeits.
>IF and Compa never actually left Planeptune's Basilicom. Their parents never came to get them, they've lived and worked out of it their entire lives, it is, for all intents and purposes, their home now.
I'm pretty sure they got their own place in adulthood. Peashy is an exception because she's a goddess now and eternally five.
>They don't have to literally call Plutia mommy for it to be clear that Plutia has taken the role of a mother to them.
Hard disagree. I said before, raising the kids was a communal effort, no one figure taking on the role of mother. This is Plutia and Neptune we're talking about, two goddesses constantly shirking their responsibilities. Hell, I'm shocked you're pushing the mother angle when the game outright states that, for Neptune at least, she's as close to Peashy as she is because she's a very similar brand of childish in nature.
>It's them that Peashy runs to the arms of when she finally remembers.
Because Nep and Peashy are supposed to be super great friends, not mother and daughter.
>And I still find this hard to believe because otherwise Compile Heart are saying Compa's puberty started at the ripe age of 5.
You find it hard to believe that Compile Heart would have a writing fail like that? That's the gag as it's presented, nothing more, nothing less.
>I swear it seems at times she actually thinks she's ugly when that couldn't be further from the truth.
That seems to be the case, unfortunately. It makes me want to tell her how I think she's the prettiest in the whole world. At the very least she thinks herself plain and uninteresting, which is still just wrong.
>As far as I know, breast size doesn't affect the ability to produce milk, so is it safe to assume Blanc will breastfeed her infant?
The breasts do swell a bit during pregnancy IIRC in preparation for feeding. I think by the time she gets to pregnancy, she'd be significantly less embarrassed about that sort of thing, and I want to believe she'd breastfeed our child knowing it's better for them than formula.
>I suppose cutting her off from such negative influences is not an option?
It might not be. The harder you try to correct for outside influences the more you drive them into their arms. Rebellious youth will be rebellious.

You might have to. I replied, by the way. But if that's too bothersome I'd suggest opening a more mainstream email service. In the meantime, I'll try and look up the issue.
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>>7966
>And I believe that certain pieces or equipment reference upcoming hardware supports this.
Which is made for and used by the UD goddesses. 
>I'm saying that if UD remained a retro themed dimension stuck in the 80s/90s, then the entire dimension would be devastated as all of their followers migrate to HD for the newer and shinier technology.
Only to then migrate back with interest because as it turns out "newer and shinier" doesn't mean "better". Just look at the absolute state of this modern game industry and the retro boom that's popped up in response to it.
>Their personalities are built directly off of the originals.
They're AIs, of course they are. But they'll never be REAL versions of the goddesses like the UD goddesses are. They're just recreations.
>I'm pretty sure they got their own place in adulthood.
This is never stated or implied. As far as I could tell, they still live in the Basilicom.
>This is Plutia and Neptune we're talking about, two goddesses constantly shirking their responsibilities.
I don't remember them doing such a thing with the kids. If they had to leave, it was because more pressing matters needed tending to. Plutia in particular is extremely (and violently) protective of them. Like a mother.
>Hell, I'm shocked you're pushing the mother angle
I'm mainly pushing it for Plutia. If Neptune is anything, she's more like the dad.
>super great friends, not mother and daughter.
Look at that CG of Plutia raising the kids up there and tell me that's "super great friends".
>That seems to be the case, unfortunately. It makes me want to tell her how I think she's the prettiest in the whole world.
Same feeling here. I do wonder if it's really possible to help her in this case. Will she ever stop thinking of herself in this way?
>At the very least she thinks herself plain and uninteresting
To be simply honest, I kinda thought at first that she looked a bit plain in her human form. It took me quite a while to fully appreciate the way her hair hugs and accentuates her face and her blue eyes. But now I see just how truly beautiful she is in both forms.
>and I want to believe she'd breastfeed our child knowing it's better for them than formula.
I hope so, too. Formula is supposed to be an option of last resort. I do not like how it has seemingly become the default for so many women.

I'd really rather not make a "mainstream" e-mail account, at least not for something like this. I do hope you come up with some solution, because otherwise I guess I'll have to announce all my e-mails here, which partially defeats the point.
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>Which is made for and used by the UD goddesses. 
It's a DLC weapon so technically it just appeared from another dimension. Probably the Hyperdiemsnion. :^)
>Only to then migrate back with interest because as it turns out "newer and shinier" doesn't mean "better". Just look at the absolute state of this modern game industry and the retro boom that's popped up in response to it.
Your average consumer still prefers modern shit. There's a similar problem with animation, 3D animation continues to dominate because general audiences see 2D as lesser. There is even a prevailing myth in the video game industry that sprites are more expensive than 3D models, partly because of SNK's absolutely absurdly expensive process for making them for the last 2D KoF, but also because cost was repeatedly scapegoated for projects like Mighty No. 9 and Bloodstained Ritual of the Night because they wanted to use 3D to attract the normalfags.

This is unfortunately normal market behavior. New and shiny beats old and busted. All of those retro re-releases don't sell all that much, maybe one or two million copies if they're lucky, which is respectable but not enough to reinvigorate a franchise for a big publisher. We only see those collections because they're CHEAP to make.

The boom in the retro market has numerous factors driving it. Go back to covid, the lockdown years, you find a lot of people with time and disposable income. They wanna play video games. PS5s are fucking impossible to find, so they turn to their nostalgia for times passed. A whole bunch of bored people with too much money competing for limited stock. Then you had WATA, heritage auctions, and the speculators invading the scene. It was a bubble. And the bubble is popping, prices have been going down for many retro titles as the market stabilizes.

Would some people return to UD for their retro fix? Absolutely. But not enough. Their economy would be ravaged for not keeping up with HD on a technological level. They'd be an entire third world dimension, essentially.
>But they'll never be REAL versions of the goddesses like the UD goddesses are. They're just recreations.
Better than the counterfeits. Better than only one Blanc.
>This is never stated or implied. As far as I could tell, they still live in the Basilicom.
It's never stated or implied that they still live at the basilicom as adults. :^) Iffy works there since she's a Guild member but I think the two opted for privacy eventually. I dunno, maybe there's something that says either way via chirper.
>I don't remember them doing such a thing with the kids.
Offloading them onto Nepgear for the gruntwork all the time. I think it's a bit foolish to assume they only do this when they have pressing matters to attend to. Especially since Plutia is shown tot laze about for weeks at a time in the "good" ending.
>Plutia in particular is extremely (and violently) protective of them. Like a mother.
I won't contest that she's protective, but I will point out that Iris Heart went overboard partly because she was trying to show off in hopes they'd call her cool like Purple Heart.
>Look at that CG of Plutia raising the kids up there and tell me that's "super great friends".
I see a child playing house with even younger children.
>Same feeling here. I do wonder if it's really possible to help her in this case. Will she ever stop thinking of herself in this way?
Personally I think it's something she'll be grappling with her whole life, and I'm there for it. No matter how many times  I have to comfort her or help her through an episode, I'm there for her.
>spoiler 1
If I'm honest, Vert used to be my type to a T. I fell for Blanc's personality first, but she has features that have always been appealing to me. I've always loved blue eyes and I've got a long running taste for bob cuts that dates back to my childhood.
>I hope so, too. Formula is supposed to be an option of last resort. I do not like how it has seemingly become the default for so many women.
Some babies can be quite rough with breastfeeding. Overeager for food. Apparently I was one of those.

>spoiler 2
After being thrown into the spam folder yet again, this time it said the next one would totally go to my inbox after marking it as not spam, but we'll see what happens. I don't know why you're so against mainstream email when we're not doing anything super sensitive or illegal. What are they gonna do, report us to the cringe police for loving a fictional character too much?
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I wonder what the next mainline neptunia game will be about. The consolidation of the gaming industry and vert moving in with noire?
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>It's a DLC weapon so technically it just appeared from another dimension
Nope, has to be made through a Plan, and since Plan development begins in UD, it's safe to assume it stays there.
>Your average consumer still prefers modern shit
Okay, retard consoomers who fell for the "new = better" meme will migrate there. Doesn't change my point that more people are digging into older games these days because finding something new that isn't shit or pozzed or both is like finding a needle in a haystack now.
Also, I feel like we've veered into a tangent here. Let me reaffirm the original point; Ultradimension has a unique identity that I feel making it have the same tech as Hyperdimension undermines. So they should give indications that it will follow a different path instead of becoming a carbon copy of Hyperdimension. Otherwise, what was the point of making a unique setting with its own unique characters and takes on the HD goddesses just for one retelling of the Console war sagas only to make it another clone of HD in the end? It defeats the point of leaving the setting open to revisit.
>It's never stated or implied that they still live at the basilicom as adults
They always show up at the Basilicom and are never shown to have any other home.
>Offloading them onto Nepgear for the gruntwork all the time
They only did that because they had to deal with Vert and Leanbox. Everyone collectively agreed that it was best to leave Nepgear with the kids because she had just arrived in Ultradimension and thus did not have goddess powers.
>but I will point out that Iris Heart went overboard partly because she was trying to show off in hopes they'd call her cool like Purple Heart.
She also said she violated Arfoire so badly because she wanted to vent all her anger at the kids being kidnapped. She immediately regretted traumatizing Iffy. She also got extremely angry upon finding out what Mr. Badd did with the kidnapped children.
>I see a child playing house with even younger children.
We clearly do not have the same eyes.
>No matter how many times  I have to comfort her or help her through an episode, I'm there for her.
The thought that I might have to reassure her that she's still number one in my eyes every time someone like Vert or N*ire triggers her insecurities makes me a curious mix of happy and sad. For a while, at least, she might even constantly be worried that I'm going to ditch her for someone "more attractive".
>spoiler 1
If I'm being honest, I usually prefer long hair (second pic related) but the way Blanc's hair is done, the way it hugs her face and accentuates her blue eyes, makes me really want to run my hand across her face and head so I can feel how soft and delicate she is.

I picked this e-mail because I'm kind of a privoocy fag, and because it had the lowest barrier to entry (no phone number or ID required). Also for the domain name. And who knows at this point, we've already got Steam and Nintendo declaring petite anime characters effectively verboten. I don't really expect actual US law to follow suit, but regardless...

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I'm expecting either another "piracy bad" soapbox or another story based on some obscure or semi-obscure part of gaming history. Compile Heart have shown they're unfortunately too pussy to tackle the major issues affecting gaming and developers like them, such as when they addressed Soyny's anti-Japanese censorship TWICE and treated them with kid gloves both times. Seriously N*ire, "Raising standards"? For what, how disgusting and pozzed you can be? Because I can't think of anything else Playstation has raised the bar for recently, aside from prices.
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>Nope, has to be made through a Plan
It's DLC in V.
>Okay, retard consoomers who fell for the "new = better" meme will migrate there.
That unfortunately represents most of the market, making such a migration devastating for UD's economy.
>Otherwise, what was the point of making a unique setting with its own unique characters and takes on the HD goddesses just for one retelling of the Console war sagas only to make it another clone of HD in the end? It defeats the point of leaving the setting open to revisit.
The point of a new setting would be to roll back character tweaks if they proved unpopular and just say it's UD things. Keeping the setting open for future iterations means potentially bringing back side characters without contrivances like "oh, there's one in this dimension, too", as well as CPU memories leaving open the possibility of new goddesses appearing at any time without sacrificing the old ones. That the setting was never utilized in these ways is irrelevant, I'm simply stating possible reasons for using and keeping the alternate setting beyond veering it off in a totally different direction of progression.
>They always show up at the Basilicom and are never shown to have any other home.
Makers aren't important enough to show homes, we both know this. Everyone else regularly shows up at the basilicom, even the other goddesses. Almost like it's a central gathering place for their circle.
>hey only did that because they had to deal with Vert and Leanbox.
It's very foolish to assume this is the only time that happened since making Nepgear the workhorse of the group became a regular occurrence even after she regained her goddess powers.
>She also said she violated Arfoire so badly because she wanted to vent all her anger at the kids being kidnapped.
I didn't say Plutia didn't care. :^)
>She also got extremely angry upon finding out what Mr. Badd did with the kidnapped children.
Anyone would be pretty outraged at a group kidnapping children and subjecting them to a fruit more likely to turn them into literal monsters. Crimes against children are always viewed upon with particular outrage.
>We clearly do not have the same eyes.
Apparently not. I think we should drop this leg of the discussion, until I can clarify something privately.
>makes me a curious mix of happy and sad
It's a complicated feeling. It's so cute and endearing that she'd feel that way, but at the same time you don't want her to feel bad at all.
>For a while, at least, she might even constantly be worried that I'm going to ditch her for someone "more attractive".
That would almost certainly be a recurring worry throughout the entire relationship.

I know we'd have our share of fights, and I think the make-ups would be just as intense as the fights. I would not be shocked at all if she were afraid I might leave her over it, and then I'd have to reassure her that I'd never leave her.
>spoiler 1
I've always been into girls with shorter hair. Not too short, mind you. But bob cuts are just so nice... and Blanc's is the nicest. I love the way her bangs hang down between her eyes, and how they make the slightest little bit of spikiness in her VII render. You ever notice that? It's combed down behind the rest of her hair in most renders, but in her VII render it's slightly spiked out. Like just a hint of "protagonist" for her leading role in her route in the gold third arc.

>spoiler 2
I have never had to give phone number or ID to any mainstream email. They'll ask for a mobile number sometimes but never in my experience have they required it.
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>I'm simply stating possible reasons for using and keeping the alternate setting beyond veering it off in a totally different direction of progression.
But the way it's going, it's just going to be Hyperdimension with some bells and whistles. With how different it was at first, I expected something other than this. It's just going to end up as more wasted potential if it doesn't go in a different direction. Oh boy, Hyperdimension but Lowee is fall-themed and Planeptune has a different goddess (assuming she doesn't just hand her role over to a Neptune out of nowhere eventually). Who wants to revisit that?
>and how they make the slightest little bit of spikiness in her VII render. You ever notice that? It's combed down behind the rest of her hair in most renders, but in her VII render it's slightly spiked out. Like just a hint of "protagonist" for her leading role in her route in the gold third arc.
No, I don't think I did. And I think you're looking too into it with the "protagonist" thing. What she got in the Gold Third arc was far too token for it to count for something like that. It's just one part of an overarching arc presented a different way, that Neptune ultimately takes over as the lead for again. It's not even a "route split" thing to give the significance of choosing her "route" over others since you're required to do the others' "routes" anyway. If I'm being honest, I don't really like that the Gold Third arc was handled that way. It felt halfassed, like they wanted to give the other goddesses a pseudo-"protagonist" role without actually giving them a leading role. They should have done an actual route split to give significance and weight to choosing Blanc and her route over the others. It also ties into another criticism I have of VII; that it never fucking lets you keep a consistent party, constantly giving ant taking characters out of your party.
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She is in my opinion, more impulsive than irresponsible. Neptune would also make sure the kids grow up with the same perfect sense of justice she has.
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>Who wants to revisit that?
I do, for the same reason as always: The opportunity for more Blanc in the party.
>What she got in the Gold Third arc was far too token for it to count for something like that.
What you call "token" I call an honest attempt to give equal spotlight to the main four. Thank goodness it didn't come to pass, but VII was originally intended to be three separate releases IIRC with gold third's being the second release and spotlighting the main four as a whole. It's a shame they had to shoehorn in the candidates, even if they had been shafted in V and most of the spinoffs up to that point, but at least we have the option to skip a big chunk of that IIRC.
>They should have done an actual route split to give significance and weight to choosing Blanc and her route over the others.
I feel like that would have caused the player to miss some information. Besides, even Noire's route has some value since raising her PR or whatever has her own citizens implying she's a boy hungry pedophile. That gave me a hearty laugh.
>It also ties into another criticism I have of VII; that it never fucking lets you keep a consistent party, constantly giving ant taking characters out of your party.
NG+ kinda fixes this but yeah you have to wait until NG+... and it doesn't fix the slog that is the Zerodimension arc.
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>The opportunity for more Blanc in the party.
I want more of Ultra Blanc too, but I doubt they'll ever let us have both Blancs in the party together. A shame, Blanc seems to stand out as a character more when not having to be tied to Rom and Ram.
>What you call "token" I call an honest attempt to give equal spotlight to the main four.
It's too short-lived for me to give it any credit for that. I want an actual Blanc route, not just a short segment of an otherwise Neptune-centric story. I think Compile Heart should start acknowledging that people will favor a goddess over the others and add player choices to give them that opportunity to "choose" their goddess instead of making them slog through the route of a goddess they don't care for. There's a reason I did N*ire's route last. I didn't want to do it at all. The less I'm made to look at her, the better. Conversely, the more I can look at and play as Blanc, the better.
>Besides, even Noire's route has some value since raising her PR or whatever has her own citizens implying she's a boy hungry pedophile.
"Implying"? It's literally true.
>NG+ kinda fixes this but yeah you have to wait until NG+
I have no idea why you think NG+ counts for something here. Even if it did, you're discouraged from carrying characters over because of the glitch involving the DLC characters and their events not flagging properly on a NG+ if characters are carried over, which can potentially lock you out of their CGs and best equipment if you didn't get them the first time around.
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>Blanc seems to stand out as a character more when not having to be tied to Rom and Ram.
I hate how much the twins steal spotlight from Blanc whenever they're in the picture. The problem is it's always "sister activities", and for some mysterious reason the writers limit such activities to two people per group. So Blanc gets edged out in favor of keeping the twins together. It's like no one thought about the ramifications of giving one goddess TWO younger sisters and just thought it'd be cute to make the dual screen handheld a pair of twins. Yeah, okay, they're cute and all but they just don't hold a candle to Blanc. She's a quintillion times cuter than her younger sisters.
>I think Compile Heart should start acknowledging that people will favor a goddess over the others and add player choices to give them that opportunity to "choose" their goddess instead of making them slog through the route of a goddess they don't care for.
But then they can't shove Noire down our throats if they did that.
>There's a reason I did N*ire's route last.
I usually do Blanc's route last. "Save the best for last." Yes, it's painful. 
>"Implying"? It's literally true.
kek VII released years before that happened. But man do I wish they kept on with it, would be funny if Noire permanently had the rep as the pedo.
>I have no idea why you think NG+ counts for something here.
It counts insofar as you can have whatever party combination you want. To be honest, I never messed with the DLC characters. I rarely buy DLC, Neptunia being an exception, but CC2 was such a disappointment that I stopped buying DLC characters unless it's playable Histoire.
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Having played these games several times, I've played with the DLC characters on second or third playthroughs. I wouldn't want to miss out on any story content or scenes even if they are small. 
Unfortunately DLC makes these games too easy for the story on the first playthrough. Not only do they tend to be OP in early game, but you get extra characters in fights that are meant for a smaller party. First New Game experience really should be with no add ons.
If you're only going to play once I would have a hard time telling you to skip God Eater and Nitroplus because of that.
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>>7943
i jinxed myself by saying it shipped early, since the delivery was late by a day (and also didn't get here until about an hour ago, it's nighttime now), but it's here now!
i'll spend the rest of the night playing it.
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>I hate how much the twins steal spotlight from Blanc whenever they're in the picture. The problem is it's always "sister activities", and for some mysterious reason the writers limit such activities to two people per group. So Blanc gets edged out in favor of keeping the twins together
Obviously, it's because the other two candidates only have one sister and it's their big sister. I don't know why they won't let Blanc join in with the twins, but it probably has to do with some misplaced sense of "fairness" at Compile Heart.
I was going to write a bunch here, but I felt I might have been talking out my ass a bit. Regardless, I feel the same way you do. I'm not too fond of Rom and Ram, they don't have much character beyond being innocent lolis, and they certainly don't have any of the qualities that make Blanc so endearing and beautiful. So I don't like that they're anchored so tightly to Blanc; it makes me feel she finds it hard to stand out on her own.
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>>7982
>I don't know why they won't let Blanc join in with the twins
They could be worried about ODing the player on vitamin C
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I finally cleared the main game of Re;Birth 3 with the True Ending. By the way, is there a way to mod out a specific character's lines?
>"wEll YoU wERE pRetty MUCh thE SAMe waY wheN wE MeT YoU"
I nearly puked in my mouth. Especially considering who it's coming from, the supreme arrogant cunt herself. The worst is that Blanc just takes it because she's too humbled and broken already. Blanc even at her worst is NOT fucking comparable to Rei who is literally in the middle of a world-destroying tantrum because she won't admit she was wrong! I despise this narrative the game tries to spin that Blanc was destined to become a villain if our GLORIOUS, INFALLIBLE BL*CK HEART hadn't literally fucking beat her door down, humiliated her in front of her entire nation, and insulted her while she was down to the point of tears! It's like a high school jock bully attempting to justify his bullying by claiming if he hadn't stuffed you in a locker and took your lunch money that day, you would have become a faggot, so therefore he did you a service. This absurd narrative bias against Blanc is seriously hampering my enjoyment of Re;Birth 3 and its story. And to think this is probably one of the better ones just because it gives Blanc an actual significant role. God, I fucking HATE N*ire! I want nothing more to shut her fucking mouth permanently!
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>>7981
How is the quality of the mousepad? Looks pretty flat from the pics IFI posted.
>>7984
Congrats.
It's been too long since I've played it since I don't remember her being that bad myself...
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I love Nepu games, but are you seriously discussing its shoddy plots? I'd rather complain about the games' non-existent difficulty. Everything dies too fast, even without much grind. Let's see... Rebirth 1's first Noire fight, and boss fight with item/skill disablers in Lowee were the only somewhat difficult battles, maybe also DLC content, but i haven't grinded much after the main story yet. In Rebirth 2, Conquest route boss battles were also fun. Probably a few other battles, but those are the only ones that had any difficulty to them, and you still have to refrain from spamming EXE attacks...
Even those of us who like nep gameplay don't really care about it that much. There are some sections of a few games that are really good, but the main experience of playing the story is just button mashing through every game regardless of how the systems are supposed to work. I have no doubt they're made brainless intentionally, yet it's so easy to find people getting stuck on these babyfied games. They put the only challenging fights in post-game and DLC for a reason.
I want Nep to have better gameplay, sure, but it was never the reason I was interested in these games or why I kept playing them. I see no incentive to improve and plenty of reasons not to. If you were to assume that any resources spent on gameplay could be better spent on art, music, and writing, it might be better to focus on those. Not that this is necessarily how it works, but having a low priority on gameplay is what has worked for them in the past more or less.
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And why was there only one album of Nep character songs? I enjoyed it but come on, where are my literal hundreds of albums all in character?
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i'm about 8 hours in now, and...i like it, though i already have a huge problem with how death ends are handled here.
they've gone all-in on death ends being game overs basically, so pretty much every possible way you can die in this game has a death end with a cg and voice acting accompanying it, and each enemy type has 3 different death ends depending on if you've already died to that enemy type and if your sanity meter is at 0%.
on one hand, it's kind of cool, something that bothered me about the other two games was how often you'd just have the screen cut to black and have nothing but text
but it also kind of sucks since this is a rougelike with randomly generated dungeons and random enemy/trap spawns, so i was stuck in the first dungeon for like 5 hours across 3 play sessions hunting for death ends when it really shouldn't have taken me more than 30 minutes or so. you could argue i brought it on myself since death ends are ultimately optional, but i'd argue that death ends are kind of the main draw of these games, code z especially, and they should make these less stupid and time-consuming to get, especially since the game kind of incentivizes you to get these because they add points to your skill tree (which you actually have to avoid levelling up if you really care about getting all the death ends, some of the perks on the skill tree can lock you out of some of them lol). to add insult to injury, you get booted out of the dungeon upon death and have to start the entire dungeon over again from the first floor.
you may hear this and say "well, of course", but that just makes getting death ends that much more time consuming when i'm looking for an enemy on the 5th floor and i need to get the specific death end that triggers when that specific enemy kills me at 0% sanity, which involves walking around in circles until the meter drains and not dying to anything else. or god forbid the double death end, which basically requires a wide area trap, and assuming i get it, i need to redo the entire dungeon AGAIN, plus the boss.

on the bright side, the writing and characterization more than make up for it imo, the story really does just feel like a direct sequel to derq 1. i missed all these guys so much!

>>7985
this is the first--and only--heroine mousepad i own, so i don't have any real frame of reference for what a "good" heroine mousepad should be like, but it seems fine to me. her bust looks kind of small when compared to her render on the box, but it looks pretty much the same as her talking sprite in-game, and it feels really good. the way the padding felt caught me off-guard when i opened the box. it felt...pudgy.
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I am surprised you guys decided to stick around here when most decided to return to cuckchan, I will try to make it to discussing nep more often with you anons.
>>7984
Pretty sure there is the rebirth translations, did anyone ever find the links to them here? They were made on this board on 8chan near ten years ago.
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>>7992
No, I don't want the line retranslated. I simply want her to never open her arrogant, lying mouth to speak about my goddess again.
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Honestly Ultra Dimension Noire is a different character from Hyper Dimension Noire in more ways than one. Her main character trait is that she is meant to display the overconfident nature of Sony, or at least the reasons for Noires high maintenance and stressful attitude in the Hyper Dimension. Noires whole thing was that at one point she was on top of the world and was totally undefeated by the other goddesses but she gradually has been losing ground, a reflection of the real world failure of the playstation 3. It kinda makes sense that Noire would be an overconfident bitch during the 90s since playstation was on top of the world and kicking the teeth into the other consoles. I will say that I don't really like Noire's attitude in the game, I think It makes me find Puruits violent and repressive nature justified.
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I didn't notice that a few months ago, new chapters were added here in English.
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>>7995
better read it before it gets caught in the stupid takedowns mangadex has been getting
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>>7984
>humiliated her in front of her entire nation
The more I think about this part the less it makes sense if I'm honest. Three goddesses invade her nation, she fights them, at a share disadvantage no less, and by some arbitrary, unspecified metric she "lost", even though her three opponents were too exhausted to keep fighting and ended up in captivity alongside her. That is not a humiliation, that is something to be proud of. Something for the whole country to be proud of. A feat that should cement Blanc as the greatest goddess of their age.

Anyways, I think the intent wasn't that Blanc needed to be humbled per se, but that she needed friends to keep her balanced and in check. Rei didn't have that.
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>>7987
While that is true, I'd say the new mainline game needs to be at least as good as VII was. If people just wanted generic nep slop; the spinoffs would suffice. 

However, people want a new mainline because they want a good Neptunia game again. SvS was a step in the right direction, but because it came out after an endless stream of titles of varying quality; it didn't sell well.
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>>7997
Everyone who isn't Nep isn't allowed to have character moments.
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Wife material?
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>>8000
Always has been
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>>7994
The game's narrative never actually criticizes her for her arrogance, while casting Blanc (and Vert to a lesser extent) as such and demanding they be humbled, by her hands no less. They'll give her the standard "loner" gag treatment, but never will they actually seriously criticize her or Lastation like they do the others, even though there's plenty of things they could have criticized Sony for even during that era. The entire story jerks her off from near beginning to end and I hate it. The illusion of impartiality as a retelling of the console wars is broken by how they refuse to be even-handed with the portrayals.
>>7997
>even though her three opponents were too exhausted to keep fighting and ended up in captivity alongside her
For all I'd like to believe this makes Blanc look strong, I believe this was just a (flimsy) narrative justification for why the goddesses got captured by a bunch of human soldiers they would have otherwise easily massacred. Because otherwise the goddesses are portrayed as relatively equal across the rest of the series, only varying by how much shares they may have at a given time.
>I think the intent wasn't that Blanc needed to be humbled per se, but that she needed friends to keep her balanced and in check
Only she is told this. No one else. Blanc is portrayed as uniquely unhinged and in need of being restrained by her "friends". I'd be more fine with it if they said something like "any goddess has the potential to become like Rei in her circumstances", but they only say this about Blanc. Not N*ire, the arrogant cunt of arrogant cunts, not Plutia and her "proclivities", not even Vert. Just Blanc. Blanc alone is told she has to have a leash on her lest she become LITERALLY HITLER! And by fucking N*ire of all people, the one primarily responsible for her fall to begin with!
>>7998
So many expectations are riding on this next mainline that I expect it will disappoint regardless. It's being tasked with making up for a decade of spinoffs AND living up to or surpassing VII. A herculean task even for Compile Heart in their heyday. As they are now? Lol. People want popular characters like Plutia and Uzume back. Probably not going to happen, especially for the former. People want the fanservice back. Almost certainly not going to happen; not one of their games made since 2020/1 has had substantial fanservice, not on the level of VII, certainly not on the level of several of their other IPs. They still suck Soyny's cock, Nintendo is no longer an alternative, and they just had one of their games banned from Steam last year. They'd have to do something like patch the fanservice in to guarantee it doesn't get fucked, and they've shown they're too lazy to do that. People want a good narrative, but what can they draw upon for a good video game-centric story now? Except for the absolute state of modern Gamindustri and its myriad problems, but as we've already seen, they couldn't even bring themselves to seriously criticize Snoy even when they were literally getting raped by them. This next game is probably going to have to be carried hard by its character writing, but do they still have the chops for that?
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That whole extra postgame story trashing mobile gachashit was pretty funny. Complete with literal brainwashing waves turning people into consumer zombies pressing the button to CHARGE IT (their card) on every new, hot powercreep character that comes out. Even kids started sneaking their parents' credit cards. A shame it's also extremely hypocritical in light of Compile Heart's flirtations with gacha before and after, and later introducing a positive portrayal of phones and gacha games in Maho. I liked how Blanc refused to follow the other goddesses' methods (to deal with Bamo and Regu's mobile games). I like that stubborn insistence on "sticking to her guns", to put it one way, and I liked that about Nintendo as well. Now it just feels like they're chasing all the worst trends of the industry.

I've run out of MB to dungeon change or add new dungeons, and these other postgame dungeons with events are clearly way too high-leveled for my party currently, so I guess all that's left for me now is New Game+. On that note, if what Histoire says about save files being their own timelines is true, what is NG+ then? A timeline reset? But then why do the characters keep their experience and equipment?
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>>8004
Any bigger would detract from her cool tomboy energy.
>>8006
because you are dimension tripper
Ok Blancfriend, if there was a Blanc Game what genre would it be?
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>>8009
Assuming RPG is already taken by the main Neptunia games, probably a platformer. It's what she's most known for. Maybe a 3D action platformer could be good for her, so she can still make use of her abilities in-game while still keeping to the spirit of a platformer. Alas, it'd probably be too high-budget for Compile Heart. A platform fighter in the vein of Super Smash Bros. might work as well, her higher-tier equips often reference Smash. Other ideas I have are games based on Wrecking Crew and the original Mario Bros, which may be more in-line with what CH can allocate for a spinoff.
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>>8006
>On that note, if what Histoire says about save files being their own timelines is true, what is NG+ then? A timeline reset? But then why do the characters keep their experience and equipment?
A retelling or a reenactment, maybe. VIIR frames VII's story as revisiting memories.

>>8009
A shitty low effort musou, because that's what CH decided to give us.

In an ideal world? A Metroidvania.
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>>8011
>A shitty low effort musou, because that's what CH decided to give us.
I never knew Blanc got a Blancgame, is it that bad?
I was hoping for a Vert game someday that's an obvious ripoff of Halo but that's probably far too much effort than CH is willing to put into a game about Vert.
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>>8012
It's not bad. It's a solid action title (as far as nep goes) plus it's the only game to have all the playable goddesses in one game (they were also in 4GO, but Plut, P-ko, and Uzume are only NPCs).

As far as a Vert game, 4GO straight up should have been it since she plays a shit ton of it in the series; so that would have been a cool way to tie the lore together.
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>>8012
It's basically a reskin of Actin Unleashed, minus the clothes ripping mechanic. The premise, neps in high school school filming a Resident Evil parody in the middle of a genuine zombie outbreak, also sounds like much more of a Noire thing. The only thing actually "Blanc" about the game is that she writes the script. It's extremely lazy and phoned in, almost like they were just expecting to give Noire another spinoff. The game came as a result of a popularity poll, the winner of which was promised a new spinoff. But the whole thing was ready all too fast, so I suspect they believed Noire would win like she did the previous poll, but the general consensus was Blanc deserved her turn at a game, and what we got was half baked garbage.

And then they never did a poll with a spinoff on the line ever again which is pretty telling.
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>>8014
I'm pretty sure SeHa was the last game whose protagonist was decided by a poll.
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>>8015
IF placed second in the very same poll. The two games released in the same year, along with VII.
>>8013
Maybe they just hate Vert?
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>>8012
Oh, I was assuming you already knew about Megatag and was just asking if we had any any better ideas.
>>8011
>A retelling or a reenactment, maybe
Well, that's a bit of a relief. I'm already not very happy about having to do Chapter 3 again, and of course Mister Badd is the one with the 1024 MB drop.

I figured you would have replied to that e-mail by now. It didn't get sent to spam again, did it?
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>>8019
Cutscene skip if your friend here. It did end up in spam again, what the fuck. The worst part is I checked spam numerous times yesterday and didn't find your reply. Goddamn it I hate these spam filters.
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>>8020
I've been using it liberally, if nothing else just to hasten NG+, but I still tend to not skip scenes starring Blanc, for reasons. I still don't know if I want to skip the scene where she cries, as much as I hate it. I'm back up to Chapter 2, and I still think her reaction was simply natural to the appearance of a majorly damaging competitor (that's smug and condescending to boot). Sorry for the trouble my email provider has been causing. I just wanted a no-fuss non-Big Tech e-mail that required minimal information to sign up, and this one and one other were the best options I could find, so I chose this one because I kinda like the waifu.club domain name and thought it was fitting.
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So which one of you is the BO? I heard he returned recently.
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>>8023
Me.
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>>8021
My I suggest a provider that lets you bring your own domain? Proton mail lets you do that, so does Runbox.
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>>8025
In that case, I'd like to inform you about a particularly annoying poster that frequents /nepgen/ on 4Chan. He's a professed IFfag and is called several names like IFtard, TLOUfag, "the schizo", etc. He aggressively pushes a headcanon version of IF (and Segami) based on Neptune vs. Sega Hard Girls (which he shills constantly). He also goes out of his way to antagonize other posters who he feels take attention away from him. He has antagonized Mary Skelter posters (all Skelters are somehow dykes because Otsuu and Little Mermaid exist, "dyke skelter" as he calls it), Neptunefags (he calls her a slut who's obsessed with robodick, based on that one scene in VII where she teases Steamax), and most recently Blanc and Blancfags (he calls her ugly, claims she's gay for Plutia, and just generally shits on her every chance he gets). He heavily antagonizes me and the other Blancfag, calling us avatarfags and accusing us of "jacking eachother off" (i.e., talking about Blanc and the series and other relevant topics at length). He's been a pest for years now because the jannies at 4Cuck do nothing to him. But they'll gladly ban me for rebuking a Nyamotaposter obviously trying to provoke me (might be the IFtard, in fact), or posting a CG from a console game. I just want to let you know if he shows up here. Be prepared to have to ban him multiple times as well, since he's admitted to posting from several devices. I'd like to try and convince the rest of /nepgen/ over there to move here, but I want to make sure someone will be here to nuke the IFtard with prejudice if he ever rears his ugly head.
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>>8026
Protonmail requires you to pay for that. I haven't checked Runbox.
>>8027
You could become a janny for this board and then ban him if he shows up.
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>>8029
What's the process for that?
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>>8027
>In that case, I'd like to inform you about a particularly annoying poster that frequents /nepgen/ on 4Chan.

Isn't that ha...
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Wait. This posting style.
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>>8031
Drop me a mail (it's in the faq) with a username and I'll set an account up for you.
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>>8032
Looks like I'm half asleep and I messed up which post I'm replying to. So it was for >>8030, but you'd have to get the BO's permission too.
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>>8033
Your mail is somerandomguy@rape.lol, right? That is the correct address? Just need to make sure I don't screw this up and either send an e-mail into the void or some other guy who might reply back awfully confused.
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>>8034
Yes.
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>>8036
I sent the e-mail. Should be short and sweet and have an image attached.
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>>8037
I think there was some misunderstanding on my part, please check it with the BO first.
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>>8038
Do I have to e-mail the BO now? What's his address?
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I wish we had an /sk/ board so I could keep a tab of that open to discuss Senran Kagura outside the usual places. 

Am I hallucinating or wasn't there a neptunia/senran kagura crossover game?
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>>8040
Oh of course my IP changes again and of course the id when I talk about senran kagura is b00b3.
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>>8040
>Am I hallucinating or wasn't there a neptunia/senran kagura crossover game?
that was ninja wars, yes. to my knowledge, a lot of people either didn't like it or thought it was just ok.
it's a bit odd to me how both fanbases seem to memoryhole that one. i remember talking to some disgruntled senran fan on a certain messaging app not too long after it came out; they were complaining about not having had a senran kagura game in "ages" (i guess a year or too is too long a wait?) and i had to remind them that the crossover existed. did it not have any marketing? i doubt it was so bad that people are genuinely giving it the tsukihime anime/flcl 2 and 3 treatment...
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i find myself thinking about what compile heart games on the 3ds would've been like. Mary Skelter would've fit amazingly on it, and i think DERQ specifically would've been really interesting, given the whole dual nature of that game; i could imagine Arata's scenes playing out on the top screen, and then switching to Shina has the gameplay/RPG portion play out on the bottom screen. 
i imagine a neptunia game and/or some original series would've been more likely, but still. it's kind of a missed opportunity that they never really put anything on it to my knowledge.
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>year or too
pretend that i didn't make that mistake
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>>8040
Good news, there apparently used to be a Senran Kagura board. Bad news, it wasn't archived, and so it was lost when 8Chan Prime went down. We're lucky the Neptunia board here was archived. As usual, Senran Kagura is cursed as all hell.
>>8042
Ninja Wars was actually the last Compa title that sold decently. I think it sold like 18k in Japan. Problem is, it was a massive disappointment to Nepfags and especially Senranfags. Only four playable characters from each series, and next to zero fanservice. Seriously, it was a fucking Senran Kagura crossover, there was no excuse for it to not have clothing break which is one of SK's defining mechanics, and don't try to say Neptunia was the reason, because Action Unleashed was literally a Senran clone complete with clothing damage. The CGs are unimpressive too, the only remotely fanservice-y CG to my knowledge is a typical onsen one, where they're all covered with towels, completely defeating the point. People trashed it on both sides of the Pacific for this, and it's quite telling that it was after Ninja Wars that Compile Heart's sales really started diving off a cliff.
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>>8038
I think you should give it to the Blancfag. He's not going to abandon the board like the original BO did.
>>8045
>Good news, there apparently used to be a Senran Kagura board. Bad news, it wasn't archived, and so it was lost when 8Chan Prime went down.
There are archives but sadly as you said the board was not rescued.
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>>8045
Another thing was it didn't feel mechanically deep enough to justify only having 10 characters. Hell, Senran Kagura 2 Deep Crimson (which is technically the 3rd game as the Versus games were made canon but I digress) was also a tag brawler; but that game had unique team intros and outros as well as unique team supers. It also had 4 more characters (the Hanzo squad, the Crimson squad, Daidouji, Rin, Shin Asuka, and Crimson Homura) than Ninja Wars. There's no cool team supers between certain pairings (which probably would have been PH/Asuka, BH/Homura, WH/Yumi, and GH/Miyabi; idk about Yuki or Goh) or even unique intros/outros.

To be fair to CH, I'm sure they weren't intending this to be a collab. But I honestly wish this collab was similar to the Project X Zone games. For those not familiar, the Project x Zone games were collaborations between Capcom/Namco/Sega that were SRPGs with beat-em-up combat. While the game was decent, the main draw was all these characters from different franchises and worlds interacting with each other. You had a main unit and you could pair them up with an assist unit. Before battles would start, there would be a short bit of dialogue. However, each unit had a bit of special dialogue with each unit. Rather than try to explain, I'll just post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HEupHu_wb0&list=PLcSP2W7-xuOxcIki5p1rlKmygs9s8q8OS&index=21

If they did it this way, we would have gotten way more characters as well as some Elder God-tier banter. Just imagine Blanc and Mirai opting to team up with Murasaki being super excited or anything involving Iris Heart/Haruka/Ryobi/Ryona
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>>8046
Good thing I'm back, then.
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>>8039
I'd like to know a bit about your background, what would be your preferred method of 1v1 contact? I can do Matrix, Dickscord, IRC, e-mail. Whatever.

For what it's worth 80% of the people from 8/nep/ straight up moved off of imageboards completely after fullchan imploded, so suddenly having some halfchan members knocking on the door is kind of surprising (of course I get it with the recent retardation over there).

With the people I remain in contact with...they've moved on to a number of different things. Some moved back into general gaming, others took up an interest in sections with...similar DNA to Neptunia (anime, story-focus, younger girls), such as Blue Archive.

Given how bad the series has been in recent years with lazy re-releases from CH, I can't really blame any of them for their changeouts.

So yeah, maybe getting something fresh in isn't a bad idea, unless of course halfchan's instance is full of cancer (as it was about 10 years ago). I'd want some idea of how you want to go about things, for sure.
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>>8047
I would have loved a return to Deep Crimson style Senran for the crossover.
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>>8049
Do I really have to do a job interview to janny for a niche subculture forum in the corner of the internet? Fine, I'll do it via e-mail. 
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>Blue Archive
I hate seeing this shit everywhere. While I sort of understand why people are drawn to gachas like it nowadays, I despise how readily so many people, not even just normalfags, readily accepted and embraced something as limiting and predatory as gacha. Some even go as far as to hold it up as superior to the old weeb-y retail games we (used to) get like Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun, and yes, Neptunia. It disappoints me to hear that old Nepfags are turning to it even if Compile Heart have been fucking up almost constantly these days. I would sooner play the shittiest Neptunia spinoff than any gacha game.
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>>8049
>others took up an interest in sections with...similar DNA to Neptunia (anime, story-focus, younger girls), such as Blue Archive.
oh. that's unfortunate.
>>8051
agreed. i think i'd mind it less if they were less incessant about it. some gachafags outright refuse to play literally anything else and bring it up all the fucking time (well i guess that's a bit hypocritical of me to say, but still)

also i just wish there was more of a distinction between...actually japanese stuff and everything else. people keep forgetting blue archive and genshin aren't japanese and that irritates me.
>>8047
man, that reminds me, one of my dream games is some kind of crossover between all of compile heart's series with interactions like this.
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>>8052
From what I've seen, the base for gook gachas like Nikke and especially Blue Archive is made up of a lot of former enthusiasts of Japanese otaku games who are extremely bitter about the current state of Japanese games in general. This is the part I sympathize with, but the fact that they all embraced gacha of all things as an alternative makes me very disappointed in them. Complain about modern games being pozzed all you want, but when you hold up shitty microtransaction-oriented phone games that dripfeed content like an assembly line to encourage you to whale as the "based" alternative, it becomes hard to take you seriously. You're just promoting one shitty industry over another.
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>>8051
Well, say you've been a BO for 10+ years. I don't think it's a big ask, particularly if the person you bring on wants to do big things.

>>8053
I am a little annoyed over this. Keep in mind these are my IRL friends as well, now, after so long. I have met up with them even if they are from different parts of the world. They aren't being unreasonable, and you would probably get on with them fine, still. Even the 20% that haven't given up on boards have...tastes that drift from the based and autistic now. It's been 10 years.

Regarding the gacha pathway, it was via initially Azur Lane; naturally, the Nep event way, way back in the day. If you REALLY want to get angry over it, it ain't even their fault: CH thought it was a good idea. In fact CH tried to do a lot of stuff with Yostar, if you recall. They have also tried repeatedly to do phone games with limited success.

Finally, they are all F2P, unless it's for phys and they like a particular character. I won't hold that against them.
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>>8052
Furthermore, in regards to this, they are quite aware these are not Japanese titles. That does not perturb them, in particular.

In general, while the hostility you and other many other anons of our general ilk have to Western gaming has in fact persisted with the people I interact with, strict loyalty to only JP titles has started to decline. And not limited solely to phone games, but also proper titles you would find on Steam or GOG.
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>>8051
E-mail sent. It's not really even an interview, as you'll see...it is a wall of text however!
>>8054
>>8055
Sounds about right for my experience too, though DaL was what made me cave initially. Some of what is on offer seems interesting enough and cute girls are always a plus. I would vastly prefer if the gacha games I played were proper games but at this point given that I have played three of them I cannot really complain like I used to.
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It was too busy a Monday.
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happy monday, uniposter
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As I've played through Re;Birth 3, I've started thinking, in all honesty, I think I prefer Blanc's forward-facing portraits from the original trilogy and the Re;Births than her side portrait from VII onwards.  Something about it really helps to sell her expressions and how lovely her chestnut hair and the way it hugs her face is in human form. The softer shading also probably helps. I feel VII onward might be a bit too "sharp". Tsunako's artstyle definitely changed over time, but her earlier works have a certain charm. Those little squiggles in between her eyes in her annoyed/pouty expression (third and fourth pics) are beyond cute despite seeming so minor. Were those in her VII portrait? It's been a while.
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>>8063
Blanc's HDN render will always have a special place in my heart. That said, I still prefer the VII renders. As charming as the V renders might be, you'll notice how much they rely on effects to be expressive. The VII renders offer more in body language, especially in their more animated usage in SVS and GMRE. There is also just something I find really, really cute about the way she frowns. I don't have a picture of it, but the way her frowning mouth looks in proportion to the rest of her face... it's so cute. I will also remark that I'm glad the combed down ahoge was finally phased out of her VII render. You can't see it, but under that hat it's there in the V render. The old Neptune app had a few costumes using the V render as a base t hat had no hat, so they showed off the combed down ahoge.
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>>8065
I have not played SvS or GMRE, so I have no experience with the updated Live2D. Still, perhaps it's partially because I like having Blanc look directly at me instead of glancing. Is there a reason you don't like her ahoge? She has a very visible one as White Heart, even to this day, so her having a more subdued one in human form makes sense from a physical and thematic perspective; she's "combing down" her more belligerent and hotheaded aspects in human form, but they come out in full force as White Heart just like her ahoge.
On another note, some of these costumes in the app look great. I am once again asking Compile Heart to add them to the main games. They could probably repurpose the wedding dresses for the romance routes if they ever add dating sim elements.
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>>8066
I think the VII renders do a fine job looking straight at me rather than "glancing." Another thing I that I favor the VII renders for, I think the slight angle makes them look more natural. Can't remember the name of the principal for the life of me, but I learned through figure collecting that your poses will look more natural if the body is shifted towards certain angles at certain axes. Not comfortable answering publicly. Tell me, did you ever watch that clip I sent you?
I'd love if they added those costumes to the games but it just doesn't seem to be happening. Would you accept Neptunia as a franchise coming to an end if it meant we got a dating sim that allowed us to marry a goddess?
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>>8067
It's a bit hard for me to pin down why I seem to like the earlier renders more, but I just do. Maybe it has more to do with Tsunako's subtle style shift.
>spoiler 1
Yes, I did. I've been meaning to reply eventually, but the last couple days I've been doing things and have been back and forth with the board owner.
>spoiler 2
Maybe. I guess like Mary Skelter Finale, it would have to have a sense of finality to justify having the goddesses marry (you) so they don't have to address that in future games. Unless it's another spinoff. Or they could try and do the save data transfer thing like how Trails of Cold Steel did it, but that presents its own problems. In all honesty, I'm uncertain whether Neptunia will even continue after this next mainline. Compile Heart's future in general seems very uncertain now.
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>>8068
>Trails of Cold Steel 
Mass Effect would be better for romance since that did not get reset halfway through the series. Still salty about that.
>>8068
The series kind of entered a state of limbo after V2. Didn’t help that the series illustrator left. 

The artstyle is still timeless but they never really evolved the gameplay to be replayable or have any kind of fleshed out endgame content. SvS should have been a new mainline title instead of a spinoff. Its been almost a decade since V2…
>>8052
>gacha being a controversial topic in any way in the context of neptunia

Did you guys forget about the last compile heart gacha that flopped in a little over a year after the release of 4GO?
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>>8072
No, and thank God that it did flop. I am sick of fucking gacha being held up by retards as some sort of bastion of based-ness while it encapsulates virtually every single predatory industry practice in one shitty slop model. I may have a lot of issues with CH and Neptunia's current direction, but I am glad it never underwent gachafication like several other series did.
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>>8072
i just don't like gacha, and even if compile heart made one that catered to my interests, i still wouldn't support it.
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>>8073
>I am glad it never underwent gachafication like several other series did.

Cant say Compile Heart didnt try several times to. I just hate gacha. Its such a waste of assets when everything just gets deleted and the retards whaling on it have nothing to show for it and can't play anymore once the servers go down. Should be illegal. 

Might make a good mainline neptunia storyline about temporal rifts tearing gamindustri apart. 

>>8074

It was worth looking at, but didn't support it. 

Really hard to care when new content and characters are added to the game when you likely won't be able to use them unless you're a hardcore endgame player who had the chance to save up F2P currency for months beforehand or a whale.
Can I point out I find it ironic that Compile Heart's only message in every single game is that Piracy kills games but then they discontinue a game people paid money for?
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Did the BO get my latest reply? It seems e-mails from my host have a habit of getting sent to spam, so check your spam folder if it doesn't show up.
The next mainline nep game should be about game preservation.
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Blancbro, I sent you a new e-mail to test if image attachments are working properly on my end. It should include this exact image. And hopefully, it should not end up in spam.
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>>8081
I checked it on my end and realized the image didn't go through for some reason. I sent another one and checked and it looks like it went through on my end. Should be this image. I have no idea what's going on with the server; this host seems to be notorious for having frequent issues. I'm going to try a couple more tests with different images to try and pinpoint the problem.
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>>8082
I set up a new e-mail address at a different host. Let's see if this one handles images any better. Can you try sending an e-mail with an image?

loweeanperspective@genocide.fun
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So, this is the newest Galapagos RPG from Compile Hear that's coming out this summert. You know, the studio/brand that gave us games like Fairy Fencer F, Death End re;Quest and Dragon Star Varnir? Now it's been reduced to this. Really, Compa? This looks like a shitty phone game. No seriously, it looks like an actual mobile game that was retooled into a console game at the last minute. And it's CERO B, so it's not even going to have the fanservice that people put up with mobileshit for. What the hell are they thinking?
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>>8084
Game is Calamity Angels: Special Delivery, by the way. Forgot to put that in.
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>>8084
eh, my biggest problem with phone games is mostly just how the monetization is  handled (and also how content can just vanish without a trace), most mobile games have inoffensive gameplay at worst.
i'm admittedly not super interested in calamity angels at all--even when it was first announced alongside code z and a couple of other games during that interview or whatever it was, it never quite grabbed me in the same way mary skelter and derq did, i don't like the character design or setting at all--but i don't think it's an inherently horrible idea. smaller scale games like this have a place in my opinion. and maybe the characters, writing, and gameplay will have their own appeal for some people.
code z just came out internationally and derq 3's been confirmed already, and that's just two games out of the...i want to say 6 out of compile heart's current/upcoming lineup. i really don't think it's all doom and gloom.

looking at the gameplay, it kind of reminds me of go hell go. man i wish that game got an english release.
i'm pretty excited.
i'd originally saved up a bunch to go back to school, but....to make a long story short, that didn't quite work out, so i bought a ton of video games instead.
among all those, i got Moero Crystal and Moero Chronicle. can't wait for them to come in the mail.
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>>8087
Vita or Switch?
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Happy Monday. For today's Uni-post we have her and Gear buying 99 nep bulls at the item shop, as one often does.
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>>8089
>buying 99 nep bulls at the item shop
I don't do this since then it just means any that I get in a dungeon or from enemies is just tossed. So I always try to leave some space by selling excess so I can keep collecting what gets dropped from enemies. Do you have a fetish for short hair? Is that why you keep comming Uni with haircuts?
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If I'm using items to heal regularly, I don't worry about the chance of finding an extra one. I've probably used up one by then anyway. They're not worth much either. What really hurts is pre-buying weapons and armor before you find a better one for free. (Actually, it's more likely to use so many items in post-game, colosseum or DLC fights rather than the early game when you're worried about money).

I have a strong interest in girls' hair, and, which is broader than just short cuts, but yeah I do like them and I think Uni looks great with one. I do love her normal hair as well, but it's nice to see her with different styles. It's nice that she's a popular enough character to have other artists drawing her with her normal hair regularly.
I also got many pics of Uni with her regular hair or much longer versions, which come from the same interest, but don't seem to get noticed or brought up in conversation as much. Of course, no one ever said to me Uni's medium length hair is perfect and I had the artist draw it way too long!
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Way too long since I thought to peek in this thread. I don't really care for long hair on Blanc. Her hair is perfect the way it is.
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Blanc's hair looks good as it is.

 I would probably change Uzume's hair if anything. Not because twintails are bad but because I'd like to see it in one big ponytail.
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oh looks like my IP changed again. I guess it doesn't matter because I seem to have taken the role of the designated Uzumefag.
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Uzume looks great with her loose wet hair in the oil drum scene.
BTW, I'm not doing these variations because the girls' original hair is bad. It's fun to try different hair just like different clothes.
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>>8092
I do tend to favor long hair, but Blanc's adorable chestnut hair is just perfect for her. Sometimes short hair is used to mark a character as decidedly unfeminine, but the way Blanc's wraps around and accentuates her face is adorable and I feel provides just enough femininity. Still, short hair tends to be associated with tomboys, and the fact that Blanc's is short in both her forms (contrasting Neptune who gets long braids as Purple Heart) along with her volatile personality makes me wonder if CH intended for her to come off as at least a bit tomboyish.
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>>8096
Short hair is also a signifier of youth in girls, and Blanc is "the loli" among the four goddesses. Blanc may have her temper and goddess strength, but she's about as far from a tomboy as you can get. Her lifestyle is sedentary, her tastes are girlish, she dresses to emphasize and accentuate her feminine features. Even in her beta designs it was clear they were going for "loli" rather than "tomboy." To further support this, many schools in Japan have dress codes on how long your hair can be or how it can be styled. Anime will bend these rules for the sake of character design, but still a bob cut on a young woman is a good visual shorthand for "younger than high school age."

Now, you could make an argument for WH's design to be tomboyish... if only because it blatantly took heavy inspiration from Neptune's beta design.
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>>8097
>Short hair is also a signifier of youth in girls
I never thought of it that way. Plutia and Rom are also lolis and they have long hair. Girls in real life also tend to have long hair. I suppose it's a Japanese thing?
>but she's about as far from a tomboy as you can get
True, I never really though of her as one, just with a few aspects at best if you squint. And that's a good thing; I like the subtle yet notable femininity that Blanc exudes, and "true" tomboys with little to no femininty tend to turn me off, especially the "western" borderline tranny types ("muscle mommies" according to castrated r*dditors). That said, I do really enjoy seeing how much she can get into it as White Heart.
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>>8098
Ram*. Rom is the one with shorter hair.
>Girls in real life also tend to have long hair. I suppose it's a Japanese thing?
Mostly. Some schools have regulations on girls' hair length and style. I've read some won't allow longer than shoulder length, while others do but require it to be tied up either for certain activities or all the time. So oftentimes it's easier to just cut it shorter, especially for a child who has not yet grown into micromanaging their appearance. Short haired lolis are a very common character design trope, and the short hair could mean any number of things. It could even simply mean they're just in a state of growth. Not even little girl can have really long hair.

A tomboy in Japanese media is much more about behavior than looks. Utena being a famous example. She has a very feminine appearance, with long, pink hair. The only thing "boyish" about her appearance is that she wears a boy's uniform, and still it only accentuates her feminine form. But in behavior? She's very boyish. She's active, she plays sports, she asserts herself, she defends damsels and participates in fencing duels.

>especially the "western" borderline tranny types ("muscle mommies" according to castrated r*dditors)
I hate these. Really toned muscles are masculine as hell and I'm not attracted to them. Someone else is welcome to like them, but keep them away from me.
>spoiler
...Get into WHAT? I'm not sure where the connection is between whatever you're alluding to and the subject of tomboys.
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>>8099
>Ram*. Rom is the one with shorter hair.
Ah, fuck. Don't care about them enough to fully memorize the differences, I guess.
>Some schools have regulations on girls' hair length and style. I've read some won't allow longer than shoulder length, while others do but require it to be tied up either for certain activities or all the time.
No school I've ever been to or heard of required things like that. At most they'll issue a uniform and ask you to wear it, but even there it isn't always enforced.
>spoiler
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>>8095
One of my favorite scenes in that game for multiple reasons.
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>>8100
>No school I've ever been to or heard of required things like that. At most they'll issue a uniform and ask you to wear it, but even there it isn't always enforced.
Well yeah, it's a Japanese thing. Hell, until relatively recently some would make you dye your hair black if it wasn't that way naturally. I think it's because most Japanese don't naturally have any other hair color, so it's generally assumed even brown hair is dyed and dyed hair is ironically a big no-no in many Japanese schools. That's why the delinquent archetype will often feature boys who bleach their hair blonde. It's a form of rebellion against the school system.
>spoiler
See, I read other possible meanings in that. But as always, it's great to see Blanc be herself.
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>>8100
>Don't care about them enough to fully memorize the differences, I guess.
how could you
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>>8103
I don't like the candidates much in general, and I especially dislike how Compile Heart keeps trying to write them to upstage their superior sisters, often by writing their sisters out in contrived ways that make them look like jobbers. For Rom and Ram specifically, I feel there's not much more to them other than being innocent lolis, and the fact that they're eternal lolis that can never grow up severely limits the ways one can develop them. They don't really have the capacity to grow as characters because they are permanently stuck at a stage where their faculties aren't fully developed. This also means the idea that they could ever succeed Blanc as rulers of Lowee is laughable, it'd probably be like the Xuantong Emperor times 2. Not that I'd ever accept any goddess but Blanc. NEVER! They'll never have my loyalty! Not even if Blanc herself asked it of me; it'd be like asking me not to love her.
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>>8098
If a supposed tomboy has little to no feminitity the writer fucked up. It should be there, just not obvious.

>>8104
>spoiler
I cannot imagine she would take too kindly to such dismissiveness towards her sisters.
I like how Ram is left-handed, it's a cute detail.
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>>8104
>I don't like the candidates much in general, and I especially dislike how Compile Heart keeps trying to write them to upstage their superior sisters
The Candidates are in such a weird place, and maybe that was because of the state of the industry when Neptunia was made where it made sense that every single console manufacturer would have some foray into handhelds. Nowadays it makes no sense to have them be some kind of opposing force to the Goddesses. I don't even think it made sense to set them up as an opposing force to them to begin with, and Compile Heart agreed because they quit writing them that way *eventually*. 

Like a lot of things it's just something poorly thought out they created, because despite being a video game company; they seem to have a really shit understanding of the video game industry. Which, seems to extend to much more than just Neptunia's script for Compile Heart for poor, dumb Compa.

Maybe I'm in the wrong, after all I think Dogoos should be the good guys. I just also think Compa and Iffy are tremendously bad at navigating the industry and this naivety seems to bleed through to the games they make.
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Or maybe it doesn't mean anything at all.
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and of course, I killed the thread with my bitching again

>>8106
I like that Rom is the cute one, but Ram is the funny one.
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>>8088
i'd wanted to send pictures when they came in, but switch!
>>8109
hm, don't feel bad
i just haven't had anything interesting to say in the past few days
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>>8108
I only check every once in a while, gomen.
Completely unrelated random faggot here, just wanted to say that I'm glad you came over here. You all look and act like you "deserve" inheriting this place.
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>>8112
Better than being on /vg/. 
By a long shot.
Or most of 4cuck for that matter.

I checked back on /v/ just to see what the cucklands are doing right now, and there are literally 20 switch 2 threads. Mostly people crying about it being successful because they're pinning self-worth to the success or failure of a video game console. I think anyone smart enough to seek greener pastures "deserves" inheriting them.
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Yknow what, it's not even worth giving them attention. 

instead, Uzume.
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>>8115
>it's not even worth giving them attention. 
True. I'm just glad you guys managed to get out of that hellhole, though judging from the activity I assume you still have a /vg/ general as your main? In any case being it is still better than being stuck in there out of necessity.
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>>8116
If there is, I don't go there. Maybe one exists for those who don't want to migrate but I can't imagine what it looks like right now.
>>8112
i'm happy to have received your blessing. i'll be sure to do my part in keeping this place cozy!
>>8113
>>8116
i still like using /a/ and /v/ if i'm being honest. i don't really like any of the altchans that much....
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