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How do you maintain a comfy and relatively stress-free internet experience? What should I cut out?
>>12792 (OP) 
Since I'm not you It's hard to say.  I personally have wasted way too much time on long youtube videos that I only had a passing interest in.  I avoid them for the most part now.
Multiple browsers! I have one for money and bills, one with total adblock for my sanity and general comfy evenings surfing, and a third that I leave tracking and ads enabled to support a few ad supported websites with good articles.
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>>12798
That seems pretty well-organized, Anon.
>>12792 (OP) 
I never go to Twitter. It's the worst.
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Well, for starters, I never go to Bluesky. It's the worst.

Beyond that, I try to spend as much time as possible in nature & the outdoors. Really helps connect the heart of man to the Creator.
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I always cordially greet my fellxw Latinxs.
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>>12847
this is bait
I also ask myself the same question anon, so far I have found for myself the topic of complete stopping the consumption of any content for 30 minutes eberry day. That is, instead of the Internet, I look at my feelings and needs, and then try to move towards their solution. It's like meditation or something like that.
>>12836
>Bluesky
That's just a species of Twitter.
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I used to argue online a lot. On one hand I have a hang up about needing to be berry precise in my words and arguing helped me formulate my thoughts on important topics for my own purposes. On the other hand, in the 20+ years I've been using the internet I never once saw anonymous arguing produce a meaningful outcome anywhere, ever. It's less productive than jerking off. Eventually I'd get halfway through a big response, realize what I was doing, and force myself to stop and delete it. It sucks a little to lose your effortpost, but surprisingly the main feeling I'd get was relief. I'd suggest trying that out. If you find yourself engaging with something that bothers you, disengage with it cold turkey and give it a minute to see if you've actually lost anything. That seems obvious, but you probably aren't doing it.
>>13126
Probably great advice, Anon. Thhanks!

>pic
Lol, what?  :D
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>>13127
>Lol, what?  :D
Looks like an 'AI meme' - a self correcting problem when the the bubble pops!

>>13126
Similar feeling, even walking into a conversation with an open mind or willing to banter a bit rarely yields growth or understanding. The normies know that and stay out - bretty sure that's how the 'arguing on the internet' joke became a thing. Too bad too - I'm with ya, open comms has potential but all parties have to contribute for it to work.
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>>13128
>I'm with ya, open comms has potential but all parties have to contribute for it to work.
It's simply a matter of maturity. TPTB want division & strife everywhere (online or off) since it serves their purposes best. 

But men of cool heads & sound reasoning can come to rational agreements regardless.
>tl;dr
Its up to the old hands to show the young bucks the way forward.
>>13127
>>13128
https://youtu.be/-NuX79Ud8zI
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>>13126
>I never once saw anonymous arguing produce a meaningful outcome anywhere
I actually saw Anons admit they were wrong and thanking the other Anon for teaching them (unironically) on 2 occasions. In 15 years of browsing.

On non-anonymous forums I got to develop somewhat of a reputation, with people DMing me new topics I had no knowledge about and asking me to effortpost, which wood always surprise me
... until I realized I did the exact same thing with other posters known for their post quality.

Anonimity allows absolute freedom of expression, but having a reputation that follows you forces posters not to be jerks lest they get blocked/ignored by eberryone. And in my experience it doesn't end up as the Twitter safe space echochamber model, as people who disagree keep interacting together (most people who asked me to post were people I hated and who hated me) as long as they both argue in good faith.
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>>13278
>but having a reputation that follows you forces posters not to be jerks lest they get blocked/ignored by eberryone.
Social-media mindset, as you yourself impugned to others. (Ie, a Pozz AF fallacy.)

Daily reminder that not everyone is a neighborish a*rsehole. And if someone wants to ((( block ))) you, what do you care? Was their updoot really all that important in the first place? Far better to argue your position in good faith/conscience, then let the chips fall where they may.

>tl;dr
On our board, its a very-common occurrence that Anons acknowledge their own error(s) and recognize the value of the other Anon's position. It all begins with good faith/good gatekeeping. Cheers.  :^)
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>>13279
You can't gatekeep eberrything though.
There are times I see something I don't like on the board, and I know berry well that if I started to make a fuzz about it, it wood break the spirit of the place.
So what are you supposed to do when someone who isn't willing to respect where he is posting doubles down on you for a disagreement, and turns the place you called home no longer your home? Moving on and pretending that didn't exist is the best I can do, but eventually that wood turn to me dropping the place.
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>>13280
>So what are you supposed to do when someone who isn't willing to respect where he is posting doubles down on you for a disagreement, and turns the place you called home no longer your home?
After a long & patient process of warnings, finally I yeet them. Politeness only extends so far, and their """entitlements""" end 'at the tip of my nose', so to speak.  :^)

During my modest tenure, there have only been a handful of persistent evildoers bent on destroying our board culture I've had to resort to this measure. Thankfully (as I indicated, and you acknowledged) most Anons are actually (reasonably-)mature human beings, and understand the world doesn't owe them a living! Simple as.

>but eventually that wood turn to me dropping the place.
When you love your guys enough, that compunction alone is enough to keep you going (and defending them from abuses).

We believe in you! (You know that I personally truly mean that for you after these years, BO.  :^)
Keep.Moving.Forward.

<--->

I could bring up the 'Downfall of a hobby' meme and go through how to stop it, panel by panel, if you'd care for that. Cheers.  :)
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>>13281
NTA but I'd like to hear your explanation, especially after particular events today.
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>>13281
Comfy.
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>>13279
>Social-media mindset, as you yourself impugned to others. (Ie, a Pozz AF fallacy.)
Having a reputation doesn't systematically lead to the cancer that plagues modern social media, as evidenced by the pre-2010 web on forums, warez scenes, etc.

It's my personal opinion that it is the reputation that prevents people online from trolling and cacaposting all the time as is the case on most (though not all) anonymous communities. Maybe you see a different explanation ? I'd love to get your perspective on that, I'm tempted to think you're not totally against forms of reputation since you seem to find merit in namehobging.

>Far better to argue your position in good faith/conscience, then let the chips fall where they may.
Agreed, but how to ensure it doesn't mutate into soyjak cacaposting and greentext implications ?

>>13301
>events today
What, on /comfy/ or trashchan ?
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>>13326
>It's my personal opinion that it is the reputation that prevents people online from trolling and cacaposting all the time as is the case on most (though not all) anonymous communities. Maybe you see a different explanation ? I'd love to get your perspective on that...
Oh, I have very specific explanations as to why. Out of respect for the wonderful /comfy/ board however, I'll restrain myself ITT. If you'd like to join us over in our /robowaifu/ /meta bread, then I'll be happy to explain just that.
https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/32767.html

>I'm tempted to think you're not totally against forms of reputation since you seem to find merit in namehobging.
Lol, not at all! Clearly. Being a forthright man entails clearly stating your positions/beliefs. Fretting whether you're Namanymoose or not, misses the point entirely IMO.
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>>13328
Thank you for not elevating your discussion to more blatantly blaming specific outgroups on /comfy/.  It wood be in poor taste for the board's environment.
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>>13333
>digits
Y/w. I care rather-strongly about the welfare of /comfy/ -- as the BO well-knows. It's an icon on the Internets! I truly regret the times I've stepped out of line and forgotten the spirit of the place. I ask for everyone's forgiveness in the matter. Cheers, Anon.  :)
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>>13342
I can't speak for the rest of /comfy/, but in the future, if you could avoid using neighbors, ((())), etc., I wood personaly appreciate it.
>>13342
You're forgiven and as said >>13352 try to keep avoiding using pejorative or politically oriented slangs here on /comfy/.
Anyway I added some new world filters regarding some of ones you're still using - surely inadvertently - from time to time ;)
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>>13352
>>13353
Thanks! Cheers, Anons.  :)
>>13126
This is good advice. If I delete my post but still feel the need to reply I just post "no" and leave, something about that is like emptying the recycle bin of my mind. Even if I come across the argument again later on I won't feel the need to reengage. Maybe that's some kind of brain damage but it works for me maybe it'll work for others.
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>>12835
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As these fellas said, cutting off timeline-based social media works well. These put you in front of a constant stream of things that assault your senses. 
Even if you're not doomscrolling, which is berry hard to do anyway because algorithms push negative news on top (because these are the ones that get the most attention), I think the rhythm at which the "content" is thrown at you is unnatural not comfy.
I have been using Web 1.0. websites more and more. Text-based websites, neocities relics. These are fun and comfy to explore at my own pace. For example, try https://wiby.me/surprise/
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>>13333
>>13352
Just sharing my opinion here, but political correctness wood be of worse taste on anonymous imageboards. I'm not advocating for /comfy/ to turn into /pol/ or /b/, but come on.
Please don't turn this into Reddit. For the love of Frens.

But if it is the board's stated policy to emulate Reddit's posting etiquette then I'd like to know, so I will waste neither my time nor the BO's.
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>>13438
Sounds nice.  Also, nice rocks.

>>13440
Please do not interpret this as an attempt to ask you to go away.  I'm sure you read the rules. This board is intended to be a cozy place for sharing /comfy/ness with others.  In my opinion, if you wish to do otherwise, this is not realy a good place for it.  There are any number of venues for other types of discussions.  The use of pejorative terms is generally conflicting with the purpose of the board (thus the many word filters). I replied to Chobitsu the way I did in good faith both knowing his opinions and having interacted with him for quite a while.  I like the guy, hold no animosity toward him, and believe he has eberry right to his beliefs.
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>>13440
Seems you're quite new here, fren?

It's a misinterpretation to think that because we reject certain terms and ideological outpourings that are too strong and potentially conflict-ridden, we're just another Reddit®.
/comfy/ is and has always been like this for as long as I can remember before I took over the place. And it's certainly not out of political activism or a desire to conform to the politically correct doxa that prevails and sclerotizes the modern internet today.

On the contrary, I personally find the opposite to be just as unhealthy: to think that one can place oneself in opposition to this so-called doxa by embracing a pseudo-subculture based on an equally hollow political and rhetorical vision, believing that this is all its substance.

Sure, we're on an imageboard with its general inheritance made of counter-culture and a certain idea of freedom, but we also have our OWN culture, that of /comfy/, the one that's unique to us and the one we hold dear. That's how things worked back then, and it's an idea I'm keen to defend, because rather than being a copy of Reddit®, I don't want it to be yet another copy of x or y “altboard”.

It's not about political correctness, it's about the spirit anon.

Maybe you don't like it, in which case it wood be a good idea for you and us to refrain from projecting your biased view of what you think an imageboard is here. But if you'd like to have a relaxed chat with us and think you're capable of refraining from saying neighbor or toon at eberry turn, you're always welcome.
As you can see there are wordfilters anyway and they're bretty fun ;)
>>13443
>I replied to Chobitsu the way I did in good faith both knowing his opinions and having interacted with him for quite a while.  I like the guy, hold no animosity toward him, and believe he has eberry right to his beliefs.
You're totally fine, Anon. As I stated before, I care about this board's welfare. I already knew it's spirit (and like that), but 'forgot where I was' for a bit!

>>13445
>As you can see there are wordfilters anyway and they're bretty fun ;)
Always was one of the more-humorous aspects of the board. And you did a great job reconstructing them after previous BO debacle.  :D
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>>13440
>>13443
>>13445
>>13449
I always thought politics were risky because it frequently gets bretty nasty. Usually there's always something negative that habbens. Even politically positive news can sour the mood. Just check the comments in an article or catch someone on a bad day who doesn't agree with you. On the other hand, seeing negative political news that you don't agree with can be bothersome already. All of this is true regardless of your political beliefs. It will eventually be negative and uncomfy.

Which, got me thinking about all sorts of hypothetical scenarios about what /comfy/ is and why some things are allowed to be discussed and other things aren't. It seems bretty subjective and politically correct until you think about it more.

The rule is primarily there because in most places it's usually the norm to talk politics with strangers on the internet, friends, and family members. There's a reason why the Thanksgiving shouting-match memes are a thing. You do encounter people that avoid talking politics, but they're outliers. The opposite is a given and goes against /comfy/ fundamentally. That's why that rule has to be stated specifically.

On the other end, you may have wondered why the discussion of drugs or alcohol isn't banned, as an example. What if Anon is recovering and wanted to read here but came across some triggering posts? Well, the norm in society is that indulging is usually fine, it's also encouraged to find a healthy way to cope with it independently if it's problematic, and abstainers are also respected. Bloodbaths don't normally habben over that, so there does not have to be an explicit rule about those topics.

The less rules, the better. It's best to only mention the ones that people may subconsciously forget when it comes to building a nice place like this. Nobody should feel like they're walking on eggshells when posting here. In fact I interpret the few rules here as a comfy reminder that this place is actually still a counter-culture against the normal habit of engaging in arguments.
>>13445
I'm NTA, but I am new here, hello! 

I used to browse dreamchan a few years ago until Duck got sick or something and the site went down. I will miss the birdposting. 

Following the topic of political discussion, its loud and ugly. I am politically conservative, and even though my side is winning, it feels more schadenfreude than victory. Lots of yelling, lots of needless cruelty, lots of the same us-vs-them mindset that got us to where we are today.

There should be spaces where you can take your boots off at the door and not worry about being militant for a couple hours. 

>>12792 (OP) 
The stress you get from the internet is the noise it carries with it. Eberrything is loud as quack all the quacking time for no goddamn reason. You set foot on a website and you're assaulted by chattering primates.

It's really a question of "what do I care about? what do I truly, actually care about?"

Once you begin to conscientiously filter out things you don't actually care about, your internet experience gets much better. For example, I don't care about anything on the front page of reddit, I don't care about anything on 4chan, I don't care about anything on TikTok. There is absolutely nothing there that brings me fulfillment. It's chattering primates. It's noise. 

The answer is to turn down the volume, and reduce the number of chattering primates that can in front of you. If there are websites that stress you out, block them. Google how to successfully prevent yourself from accessing those websites, even if you want to, implement those changes, and stick to it. 

What you need to cut out is determined by you. I cut out youtube, some forums, reddit, things like twitch and porn, and eberrything is much quieter for me.
I finally have an excuse to leave 4chan but I feel a bit of grief because I don't know where to go now. I don't have much going on IRL and I'm depressed and haven't been well at all. I want to cut out Kiwifarms too even though I only lurk. I've just had some bad influences. Quit xitter too. I like these small altchans though.
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>>13533
>I don't have much going on IRL and I'm depressed and haven't been well at all.
I wood suggest starting by something shrimple like taking time to go for a walk outside.  Internet over use can lead to loop of you feeling worse and worse.
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>>13535
I had a lot going on, then I blew it, and now I have nothing going on. I'm nearly three weeks sober and it's hard.
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>>13537
Then just pick up the pieces, and start again. Simple as.

We believe in you, Anon. Gambatte!
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>>13539
Thank you. Just did a bit of lifting and cleaning. It's not much but if I get back into my routine and cut out the bullcaca I think I'll be alright in 6 months.
>>13360
I just end up deleting all my art and walking away. You're often not going to make friends on most of these places and a lot of people do not see other users as human beings. Just "pixels on a screen".

keep drama outside of /comfy/
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Both of you please stop. It saddens me to see you acting like this on /comfy/.  

BO, I feel like some of this should not be left here.
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>>13552
Definitively. I made some cleanup.

For once and for good, please keep the dramacaca outside of /comfy/.
I watched a man scream at an ice machine for about five minutes a few days ago because he couldn't figure out how to follow the instructions.  After he finally gave up and left,  I walked over, put in my quarters, pushed the button, and got 20 lbs of  ice.  His anger did nothing positive for him.  Don't be like that guy anons.
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>>13575
Thanks for that kind and more than welcomed reminder.
I'm not usually an anger person, especially here on /comfy/ when I have to do my BO stuff, but sometimes I have less patience I guess. Especially when I feel like I have to repeat the same obvious things over and over to (I assume) the same people.

Let me clean all of this absurd and nonsensical discussion now.
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>>13576
>Let me clean all of this absurd and nonsensical discussion now.
Thanks, BO. My apologies for the part I may have played in this.
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Sometimes the winning move is to not play the game
Hope you're ok BO.
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>>13585
I'm OK thanks.
I don't like to delete things without having to justify why (despite the rules are clear on the subject of drama) but I guess this time things escalated a bit hehe.
I tried to act in good faith and with understanding, but I think I was dealing with someone blinded by anger, and at one point I had to be more forceful.
I blame myself a little because that's not the spirit of /comfy/ and I don't want there to be that kind of tension here. Sorry for the bothering anons.
Anyway, the storm seems to have passed, for good I hope.
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>>13586
What I was trying to say is, some people are just not worth arguing with, so if you just ban/delete what clashes with the board, there is no problem. 
You should practice that, arguing with someone that doesn't really care about the sentiment of the place in good faith will lead you nowhere
Did I accidentally start something with that recycle bin post? I was just saying to clear arguments from your mind if they're too bothersome I wasn't trying to set someone off, my bad if that's what habbened.
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>>13617
I doubt it.  The unpleasant dialog was seemingly centered on a personal grudge.
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