/animu/ - animu

Just another reason why everyone should be actively studying Japanese. 
It makes no sense not to.

>>13117
I still don't think entertainment media like anime and vidya should mandate having to learn an entire different language so much as have TL guys actually take their jobs seriously, but admittedly in order to fight back with accurate translations, you have to know Japanese anyway so you got a point. Even if I had the inclination though, I know I certainly can't do it: I couldn't even learn French growing up

>>13116 (OP) 
I'm not reading all this shit circle the part that I am obligated to be outraged at in red, please. I'm not in the mood to have my own opinions.

>>13119
Did I really write that much? The cliffnotes is basically:
>Small LN comes to attention when its first arc gets an anime
>Since series is not likely to ever get another anime, LNs start getting translated since people like it and a little following forms for a year or so
>translations are accepted as truth since nobody had raws to compare with
>once people do get raws, guys who know jap realize TL-kun has been basically winging it and writing fanfiction posing as official shit the entire time (pic related)
>outrage and misinfo ensue, no one can trust any translations for a while until a retranslation is done, by then little following has already mostly died out
That's the gist as I understand it. It was before my time, but thought it'd make a nice thread topic.

>>13119
You literally just need to read the first three sentences of each column in the image to get the idea, you lazy fuck.

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>>13116 (OP) 

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>>13116 (OP) 
>What other examples of translation fuckery have you noticed in fan TL?
One lol/cow/, one name but many meme re-writes posing as "translations": Chillock
Basically this autist keeps getting away with his 9gag-tier rewrites just because he preys on trashy, slasher manga, thus using the pretext that the stories are dumb anyway and that they're improved with stale memes
I'm serious, and he shills his shit shamelessly on cuckchannel too

>>13147
He is such a faggot. I think he got salty at us once during the 8ch days for calling him out?

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>>13147
>on cuckchannel too
Not really surprising.
Even decades ago, cuckchan always had a load of retards ready to defend to the death the likes of commie's trollsubs and similar garbage with arguments on the level of
>b-but memetastic trollsubs are so funny, especially since its such a shit show
>trollsubs are good because they are gatekeeping you from shitty shows, you wouldn't want to give a chance to something your glorious commissars disapprove of, would you anon?
Personally, I blame abridged series niggers for propagating that faggy attitude absolutely everywhere.

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>>13151
> abridged series
I remember how it used to be funny but now it's spread cancer to serious translations. Anyone remember Ghost stories's dub and how it wasn't actually a flop?

>>13147
The guy also translates anime to: https://anidb.net/group/12184

>>13116 (OP) 
Which TL group did this?

>>13154
I assume this is the group that he's talking about: https://www.mangaupdates.com/groups.html?id=8882

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>>13147
Some people really need to take pic related's advice. Too bad they never will.

>>13147
>Basically this autist keeps getting away with his 9gag-tier rewrites just because he preys on trashy, slasher manga, thus using the pretext that the stories are dumb anyway and that they're improved with stale memes
>I'm serious, and he shills his shit shamelessly on cuckchannel too
I remember even a decade back a fair percentage of anons on pre-cuck cuckchan having a mentality that the Japanese can't write anything interesting or entertaining translated accurately to English, thus rewrites are both necessary and welcome. I'm not sure if that's still the same case there, but I would not at all be surprised that his primary base is still heavily among them, and in catering to their shared "sensibilities", everyone else has to suffer for it.

>>13158
Well, over a decade back, I mean. Where does the time go that it's already 2020?

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Wew, are we going to get Jackass publishers too?!?
I'll start.

>>13133
The first three sentences seem fine, the Japanese language is syntactically and grammatically really different from English so of course different people might morph Japanese sentences into English differently. 
>>13121
Yeah, ever since I got decent at Jap, I feel compelled to check most English translated things that I see on imageboards if it's a manga I read, and I find mistranslations and misunderstandings frequently. If you really know that you love otakushit and you're not going to grow out of it, learning the language is the best option. At least then, your misunderstandings will be your own.

>>13181
To clarify, though, I only read the first one sentence of each translation, because the first three sentences would be 3^3=9 sentences, which is really just too much reading for me T.  B.  H.

>>13182
No, 3*3=9, I am retarded, excuse me. Yes, I know I can delete posts. No, I don't want to.

>What other examples of translation fuckery have you noticed in fan TL?
My go-to example for bad fan translations is Mirror Moon's translation of Fate/Stay Night.  Know how everyone likes to say that Nasu writes super stiff dialogue that seems inconsistent with the character and their background or how his prose is garbage in general?  Know all that bullshit about how Nasu writes in a strange, poetic verse and uses archaic, obsure kanji that only university professors who study kanji would know?  These retarded, uninformed opinions about Nasu's writing come directly from the god awful Mirror Moon translation of FSN.  The part about poetic verse and archaic kanji is a blatant lie they pulled out of their ass to cover their own incompetence.  Anyone who's ever read the real deal can tell you that Nasu isn't a particularly good writer, but he's not a bad one, either, and he absolutely doesn't write in some poetic verse or use archaic kanji.  Unfortunately, most people can only parrot shit they heard someone else say, so to this day, people take MM's trash and their lies to cover their incompetence as gospel, and Nasu's reputation among English only people remains tarnished by these fuckwits.

The worst is when you have sjweebs do translations.

>>13152
That was the worst official translation I've ever heard...thank you, anon, you made my day.

>>13220
This.
>damn muhsoggyknees nipponese and their raysiss comics
>how do I fix this?
>I know!
>spend years learning their terrible writing system for a rather decent language, and deliberately mistranslate their cartoons!

>>13406
Like I hate fags like ChillCock a fuck ton. But sjweebs do everything to ruin it out of sheer ideological spite or to gatekeep, because they don't like that you enjoy things they don't like.

>>13407
The worst is that they don't even like anime to begin with.
Anime isn't even a drug or some modern day horror story people consider normal, it's just drawings.
They simply look at how the backdrop of anime is usually a normal society and that's the thing they fear the most, no transniggers from outer space, no bulldykes with swollen clits, no 2 men abusing the kid they adopted, it puts them in absolute shock. How could this be, in the current year? It needs to have some propaganda inserted into it, the way they see things.

>>13408
Japan well far from perfect doesn't have the same bat shit crazy social we have here in the west and they can't fathom it.

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>>13408
>>13456
Oh, they can fathom it alright.

>falling into obscurity
And nothing of value. What bothers me though that literally every epub I've downloaded even those claimed not to be OCRd have glaring spelling mistakes in them. Raising Project is an unimaginative attempt to make me feel something for what's essentially just a forced death match situation, only with magic so I feel even less attachment as it requires even less imagination.

>>13408
Can you go one day without the boogeyman pol shit? You're a fucking caricature. Anything you've said is just an elaboration on the thing you replied to but falser since you decided to attribute specifics to a generalization you yourself genuinely believe is not such so it's not really a conversation, not a contribution, not a response to the thing in question you replied to. You're not really having a conversation. You're just treading old ground.

>>13147
I heard he'll get asshurt if anyone attempts to properly retranslate what he's done.

>>13509
>Raising Project is an unimaginative attempt to make me feel something for what's essentially just a forced death match situation
Isn't that just the first arc though?

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>>13513
Define 'first' and 'arc'.

>>13509
>Can you go one day without the boogeyman pol shit
So sjws infecting translation to a large degree is some sort of /pol/ boogeyman? I'm not the biggest fan of nu/pol/ but there is a legitimate issue of translators fucking with Japanese IPs for an ideological bent, it's spread both in official translations and unofficial fan translations having these types just fuck up a translation. 
>>13512
>I heard he'll get asshurt if anyone attempts to properly retranslate what he's done.
What a fucking chode and honestly, I think people should re translate just to spite meme faggots like him and bring standards back.

>>13509
>What bothers me though that literally every epub I've downloaded even those claimed not to be OCRd have glaring spelling mistakes in them.
I suspect a lot of scanlators, the ones doing both the translation and typesetting by themselves, anyhow, do both at the same time in their program of choice to save on back and forth, rather than run it through a text editor first for proofreading. This allows for easier releases, but not ones that hold up nearly as well as they could with more time.

>>13512
I assume the audience he caters to would be as well?

>>13517
>so [recap of what I just said]
I'm not here for another recap. Go rewrite your post with the bare essentials of the question you I presume you are asking me. Also make sure it's a real question.

>>13519
>So sjws infecting translation to a large degree is some sort of /pol/ boogeyman?
That's pretty straight forward and it seems you don't want to confront this in an honest manner period.

>>13518
>I assume the audience he caters to would be as well?
It's the current year cuckchan/reddit meme faggot who enjoy "spice" apposed to proper translations. They are a bit in the opposite end of the spectrum of translation cancer as they'll be fine with Trump memes and 4/pol/ memes in scanlations.

>>13522
>so [recap of what I just said]
I'm not here for another recap. Go rewrite your post with the bare essentials of the question you I presume you are asking me. Also make sure it's a real question.

>>13525
>Ah your purposely just being an obtuse moron
Well I'm not wasting anymore time and letting this thread get shat up.

I've noticed recently manga that have creator approved fan translations and I wonder if this will become more common.

>>13147
That manga deserves a proper translation.

>>13542
Why not work on it and make a proper non meme shit version?

>>13543
Meme translator will have his fee fees hurt and will shit up a storm.

>>13545
So fucking what? He can eat a nigger dick and choke on it.

>>13543
Make it the next /animu/ scans project!

>>13522
>It's the current year cuckchan/reddit meme faggot who enjoy "spice" apposed to proper translations. They are a bit in the opposite end of the spectrum of translation cancer as they'll be fine with Trump memes and 4/pol/ memes in scanlations.
That still kind of reminds me of what's happened with Working Designs, where the chodesucking fans they'd cultivated will try to bully anyone that want to retranslate their works out out of doing so if they don't have thick enough skin (and thus far, none have). I'd suppose a manga though to at least be easier to retranslate than games are, between the lack of hard character/line limits code and not having to debug and playtest that code imposes.

>>13515
>define 'first' and 'arc'
I guess that 'd be after Unmarked or whatever the official name for it was -- the arc the anime covered. I just remember some guys back when it was running saying the LNs got a lot better after that point and generally moved away from the Battle Royale format (apparently the next one was a cyberspace murder mystery of sorts), when they were complaining about the show having to adapt the weakest arc for the rest to make sense.

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>>13220
What are you talking about, it has given us gold like this :^)

>>13147
Not excusing what he does, but the only "work" of his that I ever came across was a terrible NTR romance (if you can even call it that) that made me think just that
>jesus this translation is horrible, and these stupid memes are cringy as fuck
>but then again the manga is shit, why do people read NTR unironically anyway?
So I'll say yeah it's a shitty thing to do, but I'll worry more about him if I ever come across something he's done that I'd actually want to read.
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>>13512
Now that's hilarious.

>>13612
>So I'll say yeah it's a shitty thing to do, but I'll worry more about him if I ever come across something he's done that I'd actually want to read.
You're not the first person to say and think like that, but that way of thinking is dangerous, because sooner or later he'll pick up something mildly good. Hell, he already ruined "good" mangas if you're a hardcore fan of slasher stuff. Think about it.

>>13615
I have similar worries about the "Woolsey Fan Company" in terms of vidya. Fucker's only picked up idol games so far, but his policy is to abide by Nintendo of America's practices for the time of a given system, which means name changes, localization over translation, cut content and censorship. Who knows when he'll decide to dump time into something more desired by the average player just to ruin it for everyone.

>>13564
>LNs got a lot better
Yeah. A lot better than really bad is still not good enough. A writer chasing trends doesn't suddenly become competent in dialogue, or characterization. 
>cyberspace murder mystery
If I wanted to read a mystery. I would. It's an oversaturated genre and a good author would have started his new story with a new title rather than keep milking the figurine sales of the girl characters he designed. There's enough mysteries in the world I don't need to sit through poorly written battle royales to get to them. That's how I view the amount of value being lost. I somehow doubt there's a genuine genre shift given the title and all. Then it would just make the title dishonest.

>>13116 (OP) 
Incompetent translators, fan or otherwise, are far from uncommon. Japanese beginners and intermediates making faulty attempts at translation in a misguided effort to better their language skills put out a ton of stuff. Some are well-intended but too inept to realize they're garbage and that you need to know a language to translate it, not want to know it. They might come to a realization themselves or or get called out and stop. Meanwhile, some are just in it for the internet-esteem. It seems like so many people are afraid of losing their "translation" that they're ready to fellate the so-called translator at the drop of a hat and so plenty of shit translators get shielded from any criticism or anything else that might offend. Some people literally defend people who outright proclaim they don't know the language and use machine translation. That, I'll never understand. 
One of the series I most recently noticed had a fucked up translation was Girl Friends. Read it in English years ago and again a bit ago in Japanese, thought some things felt different the second time around so I checked a few pages of the translation and it was mistranslated shit that completely changed the impression of the scene. Not to mention the need to insert their oh-so important tl-note "joke" onto the one page. Frankly, that's the case more often than not when I re-read stuff, unfortunate though it may be. 

>>13181
>If you really know that you love otakushit and you're not going to grow out of it, learning the language is the best option.
Strongly agree with this sentiment. Only downside is you can't really properly discuss things with people who read something totally different than what you did.

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>>13509
>sjws are a pol (sic) boogeyman, goy
>no one ever mangles translations of icky problematic mangoes to adhere to our deranged politics 
>hang on, anitfa is burning down the starbucks I'm posting from, gotta move

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>>15970
These people got paid to do this. And these companies saw their work and decided to sign their paychecks, or not revoke their contract for shoddy work.

>>23668
I'd honestly be curious as to how many lines the Japanese versions effectively have to say what it's supposed to say. Not that it excuses Ignition's work (that is the company that utterly botched Lux-Pain's English script, and somehow approved Arc Rise Fantasia's dub), or that they couldn't have tweaked things to accommodate more space, but still.

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Speaking of botched fantranslations, I remember there being a retranslation of Phantasy Star 4 on the Mega Drive that was done in the style of one of those godawful Working Designs wankfests. 
The negative reception was enough for the author to make a "purist" patch that was more closer to the Jap original, even then he got real salty about it judging by the changelogs. I wonder if anyone's checked the purist patch to see if it's uncucked yet.

>>23730
>Working Designs wankfests
Speaking of which, browsing romsites recently I've really seen way too many old SNES games translated by that Dynamic Designs group that just exists to suck the same type of localization cock, but now 4free.
If I was any more paranoid, I'd say those faggots are just translating so many things in bulk to shit up potentially decent old games so nobody would attempt a non-rewrite-tier translation later.

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>>23736
>Dynamic Designs
Oh shit yeah. I remember those faggots butchered Daikaijuu Story (pic related is one of the reviews of the fanpatch on romhacking.net). 
Shame, I wanted to put it on me backlog.

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>>23730
>Chaz properly renamed back into Rudy
>Alys still not Layla/Lyra
>Rune still not Slay
For what purpose?
I can understand not wanting to mess around with hacking the 4 char limit on names like Wren/Foren and Demi/Furena, but this is just halfassing it and calling it a day early.

>>23737
Worst part is that generally, such efforts are enough for most people looking to play, who either just want it to be playable, or have accepted the meme that script accuracy is either boring or doesn't read well in English. You usually don't see fans retranslating a game that's been fan translated before.

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>brands already see themselves as religions
>now corporations are hiring consultants to make them more like religions
Anime and manga localizers are already terrible, I just can't wait until they're manipulated into treating their jobs at Crunchyroll and Funimation as fucking religions because some godless dyke "pastor" convinced their lefty bosses this would make capitalism less soulless and racist.
https://archive.is/c8lBp

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>>23774
Don't worry, the memesub companies are all based on the left coast. If we're lucky, everyone will get culturally enriched before they have time to put any of this into practice.

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>>23774
>when normalfags take worshipping companies to the next level
How long until BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT MEGACORP™ is everyday life?

>>23774
>Experience designer
>Kill off actual holy rites, replace them with corporate ritualism
Every day, I pray for nuclear fire.

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>>23778
>How long until BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT MEGACORP™ is everyday life?
I wonder if there's a Ratchet and Clank 2 fanfic like that.

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>>23774
Que le fuck?

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>>23778
>normalfag posts on twitter about how badly NISA botched the Ys 9 translation
>the next night, men break into his home and black bag him
>the next time he's seen is on NISA's public execution pay per view channel
>a 400 pound, blue haired, problem glasses, land whale screams "NISA ackbar!" as she shoots the first heretic and pushes him off the top of NISA HQ
>the man next to him doesn't even have time to ask why she would shoot a man before throwing him off a building before she moves on to him

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>>23774
>cyberpunk era were megacorps turn into religious institutes and their CEOs are Gods
Am I reading this correctly?

>>13509
/animu/ has been having pol shit its in board since its creation nigger

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when does it end?

>>23778
If she's supposed to be a wolf, why does she have a white tipped tail? That's a fox trait.

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>>13171
This is what they took from us.

>>13147
>this guy just keeps getting away with it
What a garbage "community" we have.

I wonder how many manga is left untranslated or deliberately kept from being translated because it's either ((( problematic ))) or it goes against the narrative of western anime community.

>>40164
Considering I am currently reading a mango about a guy who basically drugs & brainwashes the heroines into effectively being his sexfriends, and pretty much personality-kills one of them, all in order so he can LARP alone in his magical basement, I don't think they really gatekeep the independent translations effectively.
SJWeebs and commies mostly stick to fagging up the occasional ecchi with censorship and gay comments, and attach themselves like flies to varying degrees of homosex mango.
Everything else shitty in the translation community is the domain of unaligned dramawhores with overly bloated egos.

>>40164
I'm not sure how many are left untranslated due that, and not just straight up lack of interest or lack of good scans being available. Not that it precludes what does have those from still getting shitty translations. Similar case for doujins artbooks as well, though arguably worse as, depending on the material in question's price and availability, and that a lot of people really don't care if it's readable/translatable as long as they can look at (and/or fap to) it, it can be much easier to gatekeep good scans from ever being made. I've seen one asshurt faggot doing that for eight months and counting.

On that note though, I've seen parts of the video game community try to gatekeep shit, albeit for the different reason of some games being too good for "EOPs" to partake in.

>>40177
>I don't think they really gatekeep the independent translations effectively.
Probably helps that there's a multitude of sites people can choose to release through and read from, even if some are more popular than others. Contrast video games having like two active aggregates people use for finding fan made patches to my knowledge, which leaves it easy for those running them to decide what's worth promoting, what they want people to be able to use, and what isn't.

EOP asking to get cucked, thread

>>40164
How can one scanlator keep another one from scanlating?
Complain in the comments?

>>40233
More like whine on discuck and post ultimatums in the credit pages threatening to drop everything they are currently translating in order to get the readers hysterical enough to pressure the other group. 
Though these are the tactics of the usual e-drama whores, who sleep for years on a project and then throw fits about sniping when someone else picks a series up.
Most of the time it backfires, and they and they just end up losing their attentionwhore chatrooms.

Only thing that currently comes to mind is when I watched FFF"s release of Konosuba, and they put swear-words in the subs for Kazuma's dialogue. That made me never consider downloading their releases again. Randomly putting 'fuck' and 'bitch' in a character's dialogue completely changes your perception of them.

>>40234
This is why courtesy systems are bullshit. They just give power to lazy niggers who sit on a translation to suck up donations and attention. If you don't want someone to "snipe" you, work harder.

>>40276
swears should be reserved for high intensity situations

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>>13116 (OP) 
Why are there spaces in-between every 2 lines and why so many in a row at times? Do you know how inefficient and annoying it is to read like that? You don't even truly need to do it for new chapters either. Why do they do it? To sell more pages?
>>as smartphones proliferated throughout the populace, social games targeted at smartphone users HAD exploded in numbers
/a/'s re-translation HAD poor English.

>>40276
Bleach and Naruto's soulful translations come to mind to quote a pearl:
>damned blue skies
>>40276
It fits trash like Konosuba

>>13118
> I still don't think entertainment media like anime and vidya should mandate having to learn an entire different language
Not necessarily "mandate" but when you translate works into different language, something will be always lost (especially when you are translating from languages that aren't Indo-European) Also when you are learning the original language (in this case Japanese), you will also understand the cultural differences and even the English translation better.

> i know I certainly can't do it
You can certainly learn any language or skill and get moderately good at it, if you have the proper motivation and enough free time (say 1-2 hours a day) But you need to start, so start now.

>>43512
Can you learn Japanese scripture in order to read high-end literature? No. It's impossible. Not even Japs can do it. Can you learn it enough to read children's fiction? Would that be worth the 10k hours? Why learn Jap if you can learn any other language instead? How does learning symbols improve my understanding, that is as you say, lost in translation, in Death Note? These things that get (arguably) lost in translation are because an individual, not just the translator, but also you as the reader not learning the history, culture of the land/language, and history of the author. You advocate the learning of one language over all the others in the world. Why? You had to make that decision at some point, why did you pick? How long ago was that? How proficient would you say you are? How often is it useful to you in your daily life?
Let's take a look at something simple. A translated poem, 4 lines. Often people will complain the true meaning, or the rhythm gets lost (but not both). So in order to understand a translated poem. You'll have to read at least two different translations. But the essence of the poem will still be translated. But a poem itself can be ambiguous and that would require you to think about the meaning more than the words being used. Death Note is about a highschool kid. I can't find a single thing that would require you to learn an entirely different language. You would need to know that Japanese highschools are different than your own, that they speak a different language etc, but not the language itself. Video games are about playing them, you can pick up a random ps1 platformer that never made  its way to the west and play through it just fine. Things don't get lost in translation, things get lost in conversion, when you read something, you'll forget things about it. The things I type out are already less complete than the thoughts in my head. You should read something again until you truly understand it, that has nothing to do with learning a new language, it has to do with your perception. But if as you say things truly get lost in translation, you should have some evidence no? I'll remain by my statement that learning a language does not mean you learned the culture and that only one of the two actually is important. Also read the translation that reads the comfiest, not the most accurate, at least in the case of this particular fiction. Enjoyment > Accuracy.

>>43616
>Can you learn it enough to read children's fiction? Would that be worth the 10k hours?

Different guy here, I learned it enough to read porn manga, vns, online literature and half of nikonikodouga comments. Dunno about worth it, but it was kinda fun. Wish I knew japanese enough to chat with them. Not sure if I ever seriously learned japanese, need to waste some paper and start writing kanji down. It was more like jumping in and drowning in it.

>>43690
>vns, online literature
How you you know? Do you have extensive discussions about the subject matter afterwards?

^ No, but I feel feels, and sometimes even cum afterwards.

>>43616
>learning a language does not mean you learned the culture and that only one of the two actually is important
Don't you think it helps though?

>Comic-Walker Synopsis translated by DeepL:
I thought you guys were joking.
I can't wait for Sony MT© to corner the scanlation market entirely falling for this crap.

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>>45619
My curiosity got the better of me:
>/u/ Scanlations
>https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/u/thread/3145651/#3145651
>https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/u/thread/3401902/#3409197
>https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/u/thread/3405510/#3408478
>https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/u/thread/3336268/#3337769

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>>45623
I'd agree 100% to such a statement years ago when the (fake-SJW) fujoshi scourge still didn't plague almost every echelon of weebtism in real life and the internet, but thanks to betas orbiting fujos, rainbow-knights and other globohomo friendly mutts enabling these female freaks (who will bash anything involving lewd girls and lewd girl accessories, while pushing male pregnancy and bestiality_on_male), I seriously started to appreciate yuri garbage by pure sick polarization and I never loved and supported ecchi like I do now.
 
I've seen a lot of apparently righteous yuri bashers lately who will then be SILENT when FAG-HAG FUEL aka YAOI TRASH comes up, absolute pussy-whipped scum who will get really bootybothered when you bring it to their attention, the goalpost driftings are insane, one has to see them.

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>>45622
>cuckchan /u/
>>45629
>talking about anime in real life
>browsing wherever the fuck you keep regularly encountering fujoshit, so much you actually pick up genres out of spite
Why do you faggots subject yourself to this kind of shit?

>>45633
Sorry for getting out of my house from time to time, Jesus.

>>45634
Rather than not properly obeying proper powerlevel hiding procedures, I'd be more worried you go outside and manage to encounter fujos.
You sure you don't live in an ironic indie walking sim, some kind of mirror universe version of Detroit where niggers are replaced with faghags, or god forbid go to college?

>>45623
What font did you use for that? I'm a bit amused how it looks like it could read as scam/scum/scorn, though it could be the perspective.

>>45634
Doesn't mean you have to talk about your hobbies with normalfags and possible fujos that you might come across. One needs to know when another party is going to be properly receptive, and that takes a fair bit of silence and study. Even my autistic ass know to hide the power level unless in actually good company. Are you really that desperate to talk about niche shit with people offline?

>>45636
>or god forbid go to college?
Unless he spends a lot of time at media stores, that certainly seems the most likely place to have the misfortune to actually encounter such on a regular basis. Had the displeasure of there being a truly repulsive one in a community college class I took in the early 2010s, who even worked her fetishes into class presentations.

>>45629
You almost had me, anon. I realized the fact that I've bitched about yuri more than yaoi lately. Thinking about it, though, I also see less yaoi. Maybe you're complaining about forums I don't go to? I think the places I frequent are more tolerant of yuri so it has more opportunities to derail conversations I participate in (I just ignore the yuri thread) which is where my frustrations come from.

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not him but here's my 2 cents: fujos are basically like furries but socially accepted and with similar amounts of money, thus making them potentially much more dangerous and like he mentioned they astutely hide behind rainbow flags to appear as heralds of social justice, let alone the fact that now thanks to feminism normalfags are scared to criticise women and they know this and use it to their full advantage, they go in groups in social media borderline harassing licensing houses to get yaoi manga licensed and they are slowly eating the market in my country, which means that now less good seinen manga can get licensed and published because they are the hot new whales to milk dry, it is a golden era of sorts for fujos right now
tl;dr they ride ((( LGBTBBQ+ acceptance ))) nonsense irl to get more 2D fags in return

>>45642
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>/u/ bullies saitei from ever localizing again
>/u/ uses deepl to machine translate their fetish
>they continue releasing manga using MT as if they were official localization
>namefagging and self doxing themselves

>/animu/, laughs it off as if >>45622 was some sort of other fetishists, instead of condemning MT
>They are still unaware Sony will buy a MT company within the month, rendering honest localization off entirely
>Learning 日本語 will be a truly wasteful endeavor like arts

>>45651
To be fair, its far easier for people to go into the same old "muh yurisecution" argument, when the links don't really have anything standing out related to MT at first glance. And nobody is going to bother digging through cancerous cuck/u/ threads or downloading mango for genres they don't care about to get to the actual point.

>>45651
The fact that you can hardly find a respectable translation kind of makes it's all the more worthwhile an endeavor, no?

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>>46031
If you want to learn an useless degree, sure.
This is basically the Humans Need not Apply problem[1], exacerbated by capitalism. People will buy the cheaper faster made vending machine coffee over the elegant barista double shot latte.
7 years of study to be outpaced by raspi
[1]https://invidious.tube/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

>>46057
>vid
and some fags complain about "low birth rates" after this?

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>>46065
>low birth rates
What do you think covid-19 is, a fake virus?
The peasants need to accept obsolescence one way or another. If endocrine disruptors in foods and water won't lower the population to their desired limits, a bioweapon should.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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^ I was more about "only gradually lowering birth rates will save us from this shit", you gave it a weird spin

>>46069
You barely wrote anything, so I can't decipher everything about what you meant, I don't have your experiences and biases to form a conversation with. But I will assume from saging you don't have or will do anything about it.

^ I sage because I think my comment is not important, and to prolong the thread's lifetime, that's it.

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>>46069
Hanging flesh is upping his game, he's spamming the "rona isn't real, it's just normal flu where everyone just happened to cough their lungs out, pure coincidence" meme on /geimu/ while spamming the "rona is chinese bioweapon and will kill everyone you love to feed evil chink gods" meme here.
When will someone finally dox him back and suffocate him in a mountain of anchovy and pineapple pizza?

>>46065
Because those fags also fundamentally disagree with the model that makes such automation possible.

>>46057
Yeah, a language degree is useless and I get that not everybody cares about getting the good cup of coffee, but actually being able to appreciate the hobbies you spend countless hours indulging in rather than put up with shit company-approved localizations is something I consider valuable; not a wasted effort at the very least. Not sure where you heard 7 years from, but you can reach a level where you can read fine with the aid of a dictionary within a year of study and just learn mostly through media from there on.

>>46100
My hobby isn't consumption of a culture just because I spent more time on it in comparison to other cultures. My hobby is reading- and watching well written pieces of fiction and non-fiction. This notion that jackass translators fuck shit up is silly, /a/'s retranslation is just as bad, the source material is just as bad, just like claiming jap dubs aren't just as dogshit if you've got an ear for quality dubs. Jap's language isn't holy. Why should I treat it as more than it's (its?) worth?

>>46172
Yeah yeah, we get it, you only want to consume product and then be done with it so that you can get excited for next product, so a translation with few memes inserted here and there or a MT are good enough, why ask for more?
Lucky you, soon you'll be able to enjoy 100% AI generated entertainment of such quality that most people (like you) won't be able to distinguish from the man made thing.
As long as you don't care about the long nosed individual adjusting the AI in the backend (you won't) you'll have access to an endless stream of cheap, well written (that is, up to your standards) pieces of fiction and non-fiction.

>>46177
>you only want meme regurgitation
Speak to me in honesty please. What I want is clearly stated. At this junction I fear that you did not understand what it is I said. So I implore you to try again and this time respond to my post commenting on the things I actually wrote down. You speak like a schizoid would.

Regardless if it's good or not it shouldn't be raped translation wise by a bunch of fucking hacks with an ideological bent or because they think they are clever.

>>46178
you dismiss the idea of learning Japanese as pointless either because:
> nobody will pay you for high quality translations when they can get meme translations or MT for far cheaper
even though the anon above never implied he wanted to do it for anything more than just to increase his own enjoyment of the hobby
> MTs are good enough, or will be soon as the technology improves
even if AI manages to produce a high quality translations the companies that own the distribution rights for the anime/manga/LN will still censor their releases.
> Japanese media is shit, and you wont discover anything worthwhile there even if you are willing to sift through the gigantic and ever growing pile of untranslated works that weren't picked up by a localizer or scanlation group. You should just look for better entertainment somewhere else.
I don't think you really hold this position or you wouldn't be here, but I get the impression you didn't fully consider just how many works are completely out of reach when you only rely on other people to decide for you what's worth the effort of localizing/translating, or how the fact that something can be more appealing or interesting because it was produced by someone from a different culture with different sensibilities, even if it's flawed. More people learning Japanese means more people going straight to the source, finding hidden gems and then sharing them in English image boards like this one, it's not a pointless effort.

fyi, there's like 6 people itt, the y/u/ri apologia left, the person that original brought light of the MT bullying campaign did too, translatornanon, and two other fags.

I'm zen about it now, cyberbulling mafia will persist regardless so long as capitalism and copyright persists.

>>46182
>pointless
Relatively, yes. For the entertainment industry gets largely translated, moreso than its relative worth to society or an individual.
>nobody will pay for high quality tl
This is some other guy I'm afraid. I'm sure getting paid for high quality translations is a possibility. But there's many jobs one could stake their life on.
>MTs are good enough
Translations are good enough, as in, the source material itself isn't (often) good enough. Feel free to give some examples though
>censor
As in self-censor doesn't exist, or is a more prominent issue, let alone the prude laws of the land to begin with. I fear the things being censored are all in your head and has little to do with it being a MT or not.
>(you think that) Jap media is shit
Media has the potential to be anything. I think that when comparing the quantity that is of quality and untranslated of Japanese works compared to other languages it should be very low on the list of languages you should prioritize, taken into account the difficulty of the language (time wasted) and the fact that even adult japanese males forego the complexities of their own language as in they scarcely understand it if at all.
>more appealing or interesting because it was produced by someone from a different culture 
Different culture can be translated.
>more people learning a language means more hidden gems get found
No, they would spend time doing one thing over doing another thing. The number of 'hidden' gems doesn't increase, nor does the knowledge overall increase, it will stay the same, arguably it would decrease as other languages are easier and have more so called hidden gems so, considering priority, telling people to learn a different language is a much better investment of their time. But knowing that you can still pick Jap all the same. It's just not the advice I would give.
>I don't think you really hold this position or you wouldn't be here
I've got more than one hobby. And a brain capable of critical thinking. I don't have a bias for things Japanese (or based on any origin). That goes against my logic. That's just racist.

If bias is confirmed by years of experience, there is nothing wrong with it. Racists have a point.

>>46202
There's no logic to it. Statistically I'm not more likely to like a Japanese anime just because it is Japanese.

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>>46203
actually if you have any sort of taste then yes there is, because the west almost exclusively produces subversive garbage nowadays whereas japs just try to make money

also unless this is bait you don't belong here

>>46740
YAMERO!

>>46203
Where did you crawl from?

Shitposter BTFOs CR and sjweebs
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>>47157
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>>47157
Sadly missing some replies from other people confirming the same scenes subbed in other languages don't have that garbage.
Regardless, thank you for capturing it before his suspension.

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>>47172
>linking directly to cuckchan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zfWT4LbwU0

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>>223
I appreciate it mate. I just uploaded 3 files with a total size of around 15 mb during a r/a/dio stream and the post went through fine.

<actually if you have any sort of taste then yes there 
No true scotsman
<because the west almost exclusively 
Boogeyman, tribalism, irrelevant statistic, unproven,
<subversive garbage 
meaningless generalization, unproven, doesn't even present us with any idea of what this supposed subversivism is supposed to mean
<whereas jap just try to make money
>(only) if you have taste; you read what makes money
I disagree with this schizoid logic.

Good for you passive aggressive anon!

>>56033
>brings up passive agression out of nowhere
Noted.

Gooood job *clap clap clap* you did it!

>>56021
>>56036
What made you upset?

>>56044
elaborate

>>56044
The fact he refuses to link to the posts he whines about should tell you this guy is a shit stirring faggot trying too hard to be quirky. He does this shit all over the board and he knows it's obnoxious, a less retarded group of hotpockets would clamp down on faggots who do this shit but nah freeze peach guise we have to let fags who act like this repeatedly ruin everything because of uh principles or some shit.

>>56056
RefuseS? As in plural? I simply forgot, once. And that's out of many replies. You on the other hand are doing the same thing in this very post. Don't push this narrative.

>>56056
There's only like maybe 10 people who regularly use this board moron we can tell when someone is being a nigger you don't have to flip the fuck out every time and shit up every thread over it just ignore posts that you don't like it's not that fucking hard holy shit what is wrong with you people?

What is with the weird posting here?

>>13181
> If you really know that you love otakushit and you're not going to grow out of it, learning the language is the best option
Unless you're a stunted manlet who never grows or changes you have no idea what your interests will be in 5 or 10 years time. There's loads of people who used to like anime and manga who grew out of it and regret the time they invested. It's not like Japanese is even a useful language to learn outside of very niche fields which are going to be over populated because weebs think they can become translators for Japanese companies. 

>>13408
>no transniggers from outer space
Cowboy bebop disagrees with you. It has a literally tranny from outer space played straight the entire time.

Why do people pretend anime isn't pozzed up the ass? Cross dressing characters are far from uncommon in anime and video games. Half the people into weird sexual shit got it from reading manga and watching anime. The art style appeals to autists who struggle to read facial expressions and then they get invested in the weird stuff Japan often pushes.

>>13518
Some spelling mistakes are intentional. You put in obvious mistakes once in a while so if any one directly steals your work you can prove it's yours. It's hard to claim a word for word translation is yours and yours alone, you can prove the spelling mistakes are the same and use that as evidence.

Goofy space faggots from future is one thing, niggers living right next to you is a very different thing. I will embrace any pozz as long as it's not an american or jewish pozz, or proxy pozz.

I heard one faggot complain on youtube, in one "god hand" letsplay, how two brothers there are a very outdated stereotype of faggots. I think I replied to him that those faggots are funny, while faggots I see online are really fucking annoying and whiny and demanding, total opposite of fun.

>>45651
Oh no! My precious spank material isn't 100% accurate in translation. However will I jerk off to THIS!?

Who really gives a fuck? It's porn, it's not some deep philosophy book with insight into the human condition. They're all the same basic story and text any way. What bothers me far more is when you see bad translation memes start to leak into English because of these things. "Lewd" was an extremely rare term before the last 5 years, now it's every where as a default term for many. It's a porn meme propagated outwards and that is really unhealthy.

>>46057
>Meme coffee is elegant because it's made by a minimum wage worker using different instant sources
People fulfill their needs with the most basic thing they enjoy. Artisan coffees are worth trying but the swill served at Starbucks is all garbage. There's also nothing wrong with liking basic stuff, Vanilla ice cream is delicious, it doesn't need to be duck patte and rose hips ice cream. Simple good quality ingredients are the best meals, covering everything in sugar, fat and spices is a sign of bad quality food not good.

>>47157
Do you know a lot of manga and anime involves Japanese memes right? Language evolves and you might not like "sus" as a word, but it is definitely a word. Same way as "kek" is a word. Language is memes and when enough people start recognizing a word it becomes one.

>Who really gives a fuck? It's porn, it's not some deep philosophy book with insight into the human condition. They're all the same basic story and text any way
Wrong and kill yourself. No idea what /u/ or saitei is tho.

>>56135
>Language is memes
<What bothers me far more is when you see bad translation memes start to leak into English because of these things
el oh el

>>56136
Jesus Christ, where the fuck are you retarded niggers coming from? It can't just be the herdniggers doing this shit, right? Are cuckchanners and FBfags coming in, too?

>>56163
Somewhere along the line, probably during those chaotic /v/alkan shitflinging days, PLW attracted a couple of extremely obstinate autists dedictated to killing the site and driving everyone away, he's one of them.
It doesn't help that loleron abandoned /animu/ completely so this place is basically hotpocket free, so either ignore him or go somewhere else because there's absolutely nothing you can do about dedicated niggers when there's no hotpocket to cull them.

>>13509
Wait how is something that happens be a /pol/ boogieman?

>>64066
it's just a nigger

>>56180
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>>65645
>Moon
Isnt that a common surname in Korea?
>>64070
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>>65645
>It's a Gook
Not a shock.

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I want to check something.

>>68009
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>>65645
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Could someone help me with finding anime to watch. I have a list of series that I'm interested in watching, but I'm unsure which series have accurate translations rather than pozzed or rewritten subs. And sites like AniDB only list if subs exist at all, not necessarily their quality or the source of them (For example, it lists several CR/Funni rips). Here's the list:
>1960s:
Bouken Gabotenjima
Ougon Bat
>1970s:
Chou Denji Robo Com Battler V
Getter Robo
Groizer X
Kyouryuu Tankentai Born Free
La Seine no Hoshi
Wakakusa no Charlotte
Zanbot 3
>1980s:
Beast King Golion
Chou Kousoku Galvion
Choujikuu Yousai Macross
Chouon Senshi Borgman
Daicon III & IV
Densetsu Kyojin Ideon
Fairy Princess Minky Momo
Genesis Climber MOSPEADA
Ginga
Gou-Q Chouji Ikkiman
Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor: Patlabor on Television
Mahou no Star Magical Emi
Maple Town Monogatari
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Seisenshi Dunbine
Sentou Mecha Xabungle
Soukou Kihei Votoms
Tenkuu Senki Shurato
Tondemo Senshi Muteking
>1990s:
Aika
Akihabara Dennou-gumi
Blue Gender
Brain Powerd
Bubblegum Crisis
Cowboy Bebop
Cyber City Oedo 808
Dai-Guard
Digimon
Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventures
El-Hazard: The Magnificent World
Generator Gawl
Genji Tsuushin Agedama
Gregory Horror Show
Haou Taikei Ryuu Knight
Iria: Zeiram - The Animation
Kidou Butouden G Gundam
Kikou Keisatsu Metal Jack
Kishin Corps
KO Seiki Beast Sanjuushi
Kuusou Kagaku Sekai Gulliver Boy
Kyatto Ninden Teyandee
Kyouryuu Boukenki Jura Tripper
Kyouryuu Wakusei
Magic User`s Club! TV Series
Mahou no Angel Sweet Mint
Medarot
Moldiver
Neon Genesis Evangelion
NG Knight Ramune & 40
Now and Then, Here and There
RPG Densetsu Hepoi
Sailor Moon
Seraphim Call
Shamanic Princess
SOL BIANCA
Sore Yuke! Uchuu Senkan Yamamoto Youko
Space Pirate Mito
Super Milk Chan
Tenamonya Voyagers
Tenchi Muyou! Ryououki
The Big O
The Hakkenden: Legend of the Dog Warriors
The Vision of Escaflowne
Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer
YAT Anshin! Uchuu Ryokou
Yousei Hime Ren
Yuusha Exkaiser
Wedding Peach
>2000s:
Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai
Argentosoma
Bakugan Battle Brawlers
Bakuten Shoot Beyblade
Binzume Yousei
Brigadoon Marin to Melan
Chance Pop Session
Choujuushin Gravion
Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
Darker Than Black: Kuro no Keiyakusha
Dragonaut: The Resonance
Ergo Proxy
Futari wa Precure
Gad Guard
Galaxy Angel
Glass no Kantai
Gun X Sword
Gun-dou Musashi
Hand Maid May
HeatGuy J
Heroic Age
Hoshi no Kirby
Jigoku Shoujo
Kamichu!
Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED
Koukyoushihen: Eureka Seven
Madam is a Magical Girl
Mahou Shoujo Tai Arusu
Malice@Doll
Mezzo DSA
Michiko & Hatchin
Mnemosyne: Mnemosyne no Musume-tachi
My-HiME
Najica Dengeki Sakusen
Otogizoushi
Paranoia Agent
Please Teacher!
Princess Tutu
RahXephon
S-CRY-ed
Shinkon Gattai Godannar!!
Simoun
Sky Girls
Sola
Solty Rei
Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor
Speed Grapher
Texhnolyze
The SoulTaker
Uchuu no Stellvia
Ultraviolet: Code 044
Uta Kata
Vampiyan Kids
Vandread
Witchblade
>2010s:
91 Days
Aikatsu! Idol Katsudou!
AKB0048
Aldnoah Zero
Anime-Gataris
[C]
Charlotte
Cute High Earth Defense Club Love!
DARLING in the FRANXX
Etotama
Fairy Gone
Flip Flappers
Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet
Girlish Number
Girls und Panzer
Godzilla: Monster Planet
Granblue Fantasy
Gundam Build Divers
Hacka Doll
Haiyoru! Nyaruani
Haitai Nanafa
Hi Scoool! Seha Girl
Hibike! Euphonium
High School Fleet
Hisone to Masotan
Holo no Graffiti
Houkago no Pleiades
Id:Invaded
Kaiju Girls
KanColle
Kiznaiver
Love Live! School Idol Project
Marchen Madchen
Marvel Future Avengers
Mahou Shoujo? Naria Girls
Mahou Shoujo Taisen
Megido 72
Miyanishi Tatsuya Gekijou: Omae Umasou Da na
Nobunaga-sensei no Osanazuma
Plastic Memories
PriPara
Psycho-Pass
Sakura Quest
Samurai Flamenco
Selector Infected WIXOSS
Senki Zesshou Symphogear
Shirobako
Sora no Oto
Sora yori mo Tooi Bashoa
Special 7
Tamako Market
Tamayura
Tesagure! Bukatsumono
The Rolling Girls
Tiger & Bunny
To Be Hero
Tribe Cool

Good morning. I hate Chillock so much it's unreal.

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>>68009
>User has been suspended
The goyim knew too much. RIP.

>>74753
old subs are probably fine
could be better quality-wise but they aren't pozzed
focus more on actually watching anime instead of making lists of things you likely won't touch
if you want to know what the subs status are, learn who the groups are and what they do, but most of the old shit (pre-early 2000s) doesn't really have new official subs so they're probably fine

also, on a funny note, most old streaming sites will have old fansubs for their anime (i.e. certain gogoanime mirrors)
though I think they might have updated some recently, so be cautious about that

>>74753
Fuck off gamergate. You fucking nigger worship demons.

Just learn japanese to the point where you can autotranslate in your head when subs are good or bad.

Or just watch Boku no Pico. Might be up your alley as it has perfectly authentically translated english subs.

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<Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage! Western Version Cancels Event Due to “Inappropriate Content”
>HATSUNE MIKU: COLORFUL STAGE!, known as Project Sekai: Colorful Stage! feat. Hatsune Miku in Japan, has cancelled an upcoming event in the West due to “inappropriate expressions”, which many suspect is once again a matter of Western developers removing content they personally deem “offensive”
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((( localizers ))) at it again

>>81350
As someone actually WITH American-Indian blood (At least, enough of a mixture that I can live on the reservation, if I wanted), I don't see what the issue is with these costumes.

>>81345
>Or just watch Boku no Pico. Might be up your alley as it has perfectly authentically translated english subs.
Are you joking or...?

>>85928
Do it, faggot.

>>81350
It's only white liberals who care as >>81367 shows being an actual injun.

>>81367
On the American Internet you are not allowed to reference Native Americans because history must be forgotten. 
Modern Americans ALWAYS lived in America.

>>85944
But that's wrong, it's the opposite, you can never forget the prairie shoah of the honorable red man, who lived in absolute harmony with one another until the white man came.

Just ignore Aztecs raiding other tribes for slaves and human sacrifices, the Apache going to war with so many surrounding tribes their name literally means "Enemy", or any of the massacres carried out by natives like Deerfield, Massachusetts or the Whitman mission in Walla Walla, not to mention the time five tribes united to slaughter every white person in Seattle in 1855 and only got stopped because one of the chiefs sold the others out and found Navy warships and US Marines waiting for them when they tried to attack.
The only time Amerindians can be forgotten is if they're trying to argue that what happened to them was worse then the Holocaust, then it must be shut down at once.

>>85967
Well it was worse than the holocaust because people actually died.

>>74753
Baste

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I knew it was blatant troon appropriation how these niggers kept insistently calling the rapebait rabbit a singular they way before it's revealed it was using memory magic to retroactively fuck with people's perception of its appearance.

>>93169
Well, there is a 50% that they won't be releasing a new chapter, anon.

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OH NO NO NO NO

>>95390
>mansplain
Why? It is porn, fucking why?

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>>95413
Should it really surprise you? Leftists and kikes make a shitton of porn, so no shit they have their fingers in the hentai translation pie too. When they tell you to "just look at porn" if you like attractive women in your media, they are trying to direct you to their products.

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I guess this goes here

LOL

>>96862
>censored 
>crying about it too
Why is the world so lame

>>96862
>makes you sheckels
>suspends it
WEW

>>96862
Why does Korea care about what westerners think of their shit?

>>96870
>censored
Was the raw censored too, or was that the translators?

>>96873
>why does the zog owned feminist cult nation care about western opinion

>>96862
gookshit isn't manga you stupid nigger, now get lost

>NO FUN ALLOWED
go back (to tr/a/nny)

>>96862
Let me get this straight, a series was banned from a scanlation platform because of a line in the translation despite the fact that said line wasn't even accurate to the original material?

>>97062
Yes, we're far past the point that shit this retarded should surprise you. It's routine for such things to happen now if anything.

>>97062
>despite the fact that said line wasn't even accurate to the original material
It wasn't? Both fan translations had that line.

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LOL

>>99630
Is that a joke or is this (likely tranny) serious?

>>99633
He's a professional localizer; he's serious.
>likely tranny
It's not even a real tranny. He lists nonstandard pronouns but they're "he/they".

>>99630
Even if you were going to be a huge retard and change what they said "You're as good as dead"
would convey the same meaning and tone while still sounding natural.

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>>65645
奴

>>99649
slaves to our celibacy... so fuarkin' deep...

>>46057
> People will buy the cheaper faster made vending machine coffee over the elegant barista double shot latte.
it's all made by a min wage teenager who really does not care the only way to enjoy coffee is to make it at home with a moka pot.

>>100550
AI taking over is also karma b t w

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>>99649
Try this one rather

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Does anyone know if it's like this in other languages or just the "English" one?

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Marissa and I Wrote an Anime Dub - (The LoveCom Dub Compilation Video) 
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Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai. Episode 03. Jackass subtitles rewrote a girl as a troon, using male pronouns, and adding "call me a guy" like 7 times to lines where nothing of that was said. The only justification being that she uses "ore" as a pronoun and is mocked for that once, can't imagine what would've been the translation if she used "boku". She's voiced by that popular VA who did Karane in 100-girlfriends and often voices tsundere.
In-story it's supposed to show she had problems because she was chuuni and childish when she entered a prestigious highschool, her classmates were interested in fashion and used more formal and gendered pronouns while she was still the same gakki that likes mecha and used to fight boys (in a dress) to defend her girl friends. That was lost in troonslation. She's a vtuber and uses a slender superhero avatar, with boobs and a skirt!, that had the "call me a guy" shit added in the subtitles too.

>>104227
Let me guess, is it CR?

>>104268
HIDIVE apparently, but I'm well aware of the current state of CR and Netflix. At best they don't even try, translating everything with an auto dictionary that goes word for word instead of sentences and only bother to put in 1 every sentences. At worst they inject metric tons of their politics, like in this case, 3 lines for every 1 they translate and then they get rewarded for it because they have to be paid per word.

>>104272
*1 every 3

eagerly awaiting this thread's new fansub group that fixes all of the mistranslations and trannylations
bitching is easy and incessant

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>104284
hey faggot, even keeping in mind that this issue is practically nonexistent for those speaking or learning japanese, many of us do just that and put out fansubs for shows we like or that really need it. Something you can only know when it's over, when you might as well wait for the uncensored BDs come out, which is exactly what we do. There's no reason to waste time competing against your fellow faggots in "speed" when there are only 3 bitstarved episodes of an original anime released so far. The point is that all the troons reaching 100% and being replaced by AI or even just by an automatic script pointing one word at a time to jisho.org would be a massive improvement and totally better situation. Which is exactly what's happening right now with these latest shows we've been mentioning like kurage and GBC. Faggot.

>>104293
>many of us do just that and put out fansubs for shows we like or that really need it. 
While I think he's being a bit unfair, this is just largely untrue.
Most fansubbing groups have died, or worse, have become nothing more than official sub rippers who change the font and say they "edited" it. I don't remember seeing any particular anon groups releasing either.
Fansubbing is hard work with little reward, especially in current year where few people are actually going to appreciate your hard work if you're not one of the first people putting out a release for something.

>>104300
There are groups for both of those but don't remember if the Kurage one released on nyaa already. For GBC there are two already, one with 3 eps out already and one with only 1 out. DAL V has a group too, and Blue Archive has like 3 separate groups for the same reasons. The point was that groups will pop up when the uncensored BDs are out, and even then there are enough for the extreme cases, like Pon no Michi last season that got a finished memesubs translation and a real translation coming out. The rest of the shows should just be done by automatic translations, there's no need to put out all that hard work for every single anime, the stalling cabal dying didn't make the bleak situation much worse.
Not my case, but there are still groups competing in speed to put out a good work like those doing BA and keeping up with the streams, and that's just amazing to me nowadays. So the situation really couldn't be further from the faggot's "troons are needed because nobody else does the work and just bitch incessantly".

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Western Localizer Proudly Brags About Butchering Sentai Filmworks’ English Localization Of ‘2.5 Dimensional Seduction’
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>>106669
Didn't Sentai used to be one of the good ones?
If so, a shame.

Also wait a fucking second, this is the same tranny who works at Sega/Atlus
How the fuck does this manwhore get around everywhere.

>>106672
This is why so many useless whores immediately take over Human Resources, they position themselves to hire the same shitty translators over and over and make them "industry veterans" who then force everyone competent out. They all know each other and make sure no one else gets to do their job, even though they're terrible at it.

>>106671
No, actually. They are the current name of the long notorious ADV films that butchered countless anime in the early-mid 00's and sat on IPs. iirc they are the people behind hidive, which was another way for them to sit on IPs and prevent fansubs

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I hate how translators convert the units to imperial, can't understand the logic of translating a line of dialogue like 
>hyakku kirometoru
to 
>sixty-two miles
I'm kind of fine with converting units on signs but when there's a disconnect between what is being said and what the subs show it seems like a stupid choice to make. Pic related, subs show inches while the character used centimeters.

I'm reading the official translation of "The Apothecary Diaries" and it displeases me that it's peppered with yikes!, noppers, yeppers and "tweaking" somebody. Pretty standard soylent zoomer slang.

>>107728
Oof as well.

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It begins

>>109277
Excellent if true.

>>109277
Long overdue if true.

>>109305
Honest question, is it really censorship or is the "uncensored" translation just wrong? Because her hating lovers giving each other nicknames would make more sense as a setup for this joke in chapter 3.

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>>109310
What does the nip version say?

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So it turns out that translators have been raping our asshole for the past century, we just didn't know about it until they came for the anime titties and the manga lolis!
I picked up a book several months ago entitled Appreciations of Japanese Culture by Donald Keene, and published in 1971. Anyways, the last three chapters of the book is Keene laying out the exact same arguments we hear localizers make every fucking time for why they should be allowed to butcher Japanese translations. Here's the first of those three chapters. I was originally going to attempt to post the entire thing in text, but figured it was much more expediant to just take photos of the entire chapter and crop the images.

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>>110231

>>110231
Haha, so many bold assumptions. For me the sound of plum isn't  associated with lead (latin plumbum), but with the onomatopoeia of gentle rain falling. So it's no big problem to translate a poem about darkness falling with this, unlike he opines. The translator is not responsible for the inner associations of the reader, that's not something to police. Try policing the audience of this piece of music. A different arrangement of instruments is like a translation, isn't it? Still you can preserve something you think important or lose something you think less important, so it's all trade-offs anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX_aEIEvtPg
Too much creative license ruins it all though.

>>110231
>>110232
It does bug me when translators worry overly much about their source material sounding too "foreign" when translated. That's kind of the point: people reading this stuff want to read something from a different language and culture, so if you're overly preoccupied with making the work feel at home in English, you risk misleading the reader in areas that may not be immediately obvious. In this case, the guy ends up dropping entire sections of a play because he can't fully bring out every nuance of it. That isn't translation: that's just plain giving up.
What also gets to me is that the people who defend shitty translations of Japanese media never do so by appealing to examples like Ezra Pound's "translations" of Chinese poetry or Bishop Gavin Douglas' idiosyncratic translation of the Aeneid into Middle Scots. Not only do they fail to appreciate either Japanese or western culture and thus insult both; they don't even know of cases of non-1:1 translations having their own merits and thus don't know how such a thing could work, and would only degrade their own failures even further through the comparison. In Ezra Pound's case, he barely knew Chinese but was such a giant of English poetry that his janky "translations" still ended up being masterworks in their own right, whereas the Eneados falls into that odd kind of medieval translation where it's both a phenominally sensitive translation and an embellished engagement with an ongoing semi-anon art tradition (which takes a certain skill and humility that these pompous faggots lack).

>>110231
>>110232
Well, he's not wrong. And he's saying to consider your audience, here he's mainly talking about a general audience, where most people don't have any particular interest in Japanese culture. In that case it's probably correct to omit stuff or make a heavier localization. That cannot be said for the audience of anime/manga/LNs/VNs, as the only people interested in those works are expected to have at least some interest in Japanese culture. So being closer to the original and relying more on TL notes is justified, in that they will help a person learn more about the culture. Which makes his points mostly irrelevant to otaku media. It's niggers in marketing that fail to grasp this obvious point, because whatever is touched by money will eventually go to shit.

>>110244
>Cue the essays of engineering associations with ZERO interest in japanese culture complaining about faggot localizers controlling translation licenses and outright putting lives in danger because they are just plain shit but also left in charge of technical translations for heavy machinery manuals and materials specifications.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we fucking go again! Tubular!

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>>110231
My dumb ass wasn't going to speak but then I did.
Throughout history we have painted over great works to match the new world and its politics, because something loved enough to live on will inevitably find itself in the hands of someone who feels no joy at its existence, no matter how pure or beautiful, except by raping it, so certain in the immediacy of their violence and dullness that it becomes a need to think it right, because they lack the courage or maturity to stand up to themselves.
Faced with the eternal reincarnation of art, perhaps even the first work held only half the words. One way or another you're left with mangled scraps of what you love trailing away forever. The desire to see it complete or not is a clear measure.
It's more extreme a transition to make a book into animation than to translate it, and I assume we all like anime. I think he's right at least to say that so long as he's skilled and his heart is in the right place, the result will be good. He may even find words that should've been there from the start, and yet ruin the rest.

>>110403
>and I assume we all like anime
I try to restrict myself to only watching original anime productions. If an anime is based off of a manga, novel, or game, then I won't watch it because I want to experience the story the "original" way it was produced first.

>>110406
At least half of your "original" was scrapped by the least competent Editor, even more if it was handled by a competent one.

>>110406
That's fair. There's times I get tired of a show from how obviously they've sanded the corners to sell character goods and played scenes up for meme potential. I think the Shield Hero anime is terrible even when it's identical to the original, just for introducing sound design and timing and doing them poorly, but then I think the manga's the definitive version.

>>110260
What exactly is wrong with the second one?
And why did they make the first one better?

>>110433
>unironically enjoying NISA censored memeified dogshit
Anyways in the second one they used tranny terminology that's used in those circles to describe how they groom kids into becoming trannies, which has nothing to do with what he said.
I won't comment on the first one since it might just be out of context and they might have referenced the topic in an earlier or later line, but its pretty obvious if its true that they inserted random fetish shit into her personality on a whim.

>>110260
Also where's the sauce faggot?

>>110437

>>110406
if the author gets a say in how the anime is voice acted then it's better to watch the anime first so you can read the manga/novel in the characters' voices

>>110439
Man this board is getting boring.  Half the board is image spam and the other half is people trying to suppress discussion just because they disagree.

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I couldn't find any good examples of historical remasters but picrel is the same idea. In medieval times artwork served as much as historical record, and anything touched by politics would often be updated. The peasants would be like, "If Jesus is so cool where's his MP40?" so they'd paint an MP40 into his hand. This confounded historians until they realized what was going on, but some incredibly interesting theories came out of it so call it even. The concept of the modern audience is older than the concept of modernity.
You still see HEMA nerds trying to use paintings as reference and it's fun being in on the joke.

>>110460
>The concept of the modern audience is older than the concept of modernity.
Is this just a "funny" little point about history? Because I just see it as a damnation that all these people didn't respect the past.

>>110461
Intellectual laziness is a common theme across the ages. What else is new?

>>110461
Take it how you will, though I think your statement is more or less correct. More like there's nothing new under the sun. Insane leftists have appeared in cycles of 60 years throughout history, and nations are rebuilt in increments of 250.

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the peasants were like "if catholicism is so cool where's the lolis?" so they made a loli

>>110446
Participation in discussion means sharing your opinions. What you are sharing is only that you want to bait for responses. Better luck next time.

>>110484
Right, and now your kneejerk reaction is to assume the person critiquing your shitty attitude towards discussion is the same person you originally replied to.  Bravo anon.

>>110485
Still not giving up?

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Blue Box

>>112049
Incel is a synonym for virgin because no male is voluntarily a virgin. Any male that claims to be a volcel is lying.

>>112055
If your life throws you lemons, learn to make the lemonade.

As for the difference, nobody is born with that experience. Some women have the fetish for inexperienced guys, usually boys. Nothing about them being that way voluntarily or not.

Right. For example the main character in Makina was definitely a Dotei but definitely not an incel.

>>112055
>Incel is a synonym for virgin
No it isn't you fucking nigger.

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>>112055

>>112065
Priests, rabbis, etc. that claim to be virgins aren't, they've raped at least one of the little boys they're in charge of indoctrinating. There's no other reason a man would choose that profession.

>>112069
Are you that one Muslim rapist anon, by any chance? You remind me a little of him.

>>112055
Someone can have had sex in the past and never gotten any again, voluntary or involuntary.
Celibacy has nothing to do with virginity.

>>112071
no
>>112088
It's impossible for anyone to voluntarily "never get any again", and if it's involuntary that makes him an incel so the translation is flawless. Males don't have hymens so virginity is an entirely mental issue for males, not physical. If a male has been celibate for more than a month or two he essentially becomes a virgin again, because all the mental traits associated with male virginity (desperation, simping, jealousy, anxiety, angst, insanity, depression etc.) resurface.

>>112096
Bait used to be believable

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A few weeks ago, Zenko Kurishita (a member of the japanese Parliament) got connected to Madam Savvy about Collective Shout mainly, and it seems he is getting up to date with all the garbage being done overseas.

Back then Japan would be 6 months - 3 years late on everything being done but that might change quicker now.

>>112465
Twitter was the doom of the trannyslator, eh?

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>>112466
https://archive.ph/xhLCU
The purge will begin soon

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>>112476

>>112055
>no male is voluntarily a virgin
True, but
>Incel is a synonym for virgin
This is false. Incel is a slur women use against men, virgin doesn't have the same connotations. Its also practically never used for women, while virgin is. The word is used differently, so its not synonymous.
>>112056
>If your life throws you lemons, learn to make the lemonade.
Life never throws women at men for 90% of the male population.

>>112484
The lemons are black crackwhores. No matter how fat, ugly, crippled or autistic a man is, he can always fuck a black crackwhore for about $50. Once you realize that and choose to spend that $50 on an anime fig or something instead, you will realize that incels don't really exist (except maybe in prison). The issue of 80% of women being trash and the other 20% being taken by the top 10% of men still remains though.

>>112484
B.C. Piezophile is developed by a voluntary celibate.

>>112537
how do you know he's a volcel? because he said so on the internet? I bet he wouldn't say that to a hot girl spreading her vagina in front of him IRL

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>>112541
He has said so, and I trust the developer of B.C. Piezophile.

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>found yet another example of an english speaker getting the rights to an anime, thinking "americans won't get this," and butchering it
Did this happen nearly as often in anime translations to non-English languages back in the day? I don't know if this is just my perspective as someone who only speaks English, but this almost feels like an anglophone-specific cultural problem. My impression is that we've been consistently behind the rest of the world in getting on the anime train, and what we do get is filtered through a distinctly terrible translation culture.

>>112866
I don't think it's an anglophone-specific cultural problem, I think westerners just have far more disposable income to spend on entertainment, allowing for much higher budget "localization"/butchering. Most westerners aren't going to like something like Tenshi no Tamago at all but if you add a few explosions and shootouts, lots of homosexuality and angst, an interracial couple kissing, a feminist ruining a man's life, and a few minutes of one night stand/NTR sex scenes then western audiences will love it. I don't think it's all top-down conditioning making westerners that way either, I think it's just genetic because of hundreds of years of judeo-christians winning wars and killing/imprisoning/oppressing everyone who isn't gay and retarded.

>>112866
Maybe she is his waifu?

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>>112866
>Did this happen nearly as often in anime translations to non-English languages back in the day?
I don't know if it happened "as often", but the French localization of FotNS is infamous for it's behind-the-scenes drama and the gag dub resulting from it: https://yewtu.be/redirect?referer=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM1CqviBN3mg

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Do yakuza do assasintions? Asking for a friend.

>>112880
We need AIgods to save us ASAP. These freaks need to disappear.

>>112885
>AIgods
I know you're shitposting, but I'd be careful with that kind of talk if I were you. There's a lot of retards out there who sincerely want the world to be run by something approximating artificial intelligence (for example, there's a good amount of commies who think an AI central planner could make true communism a reality), and as the world moves closer to total algorithmic control of man and digitization of life, people outsource more and more of their thought processes and increasingly basic skills to software. This is done in the name of greater "productivity" through not wasting time on basic things, but those basic skills seem to atrophy without use and are a lot more important than people realise, and we rapidly enter into diminishing returns territory where we make smaller and smaller productivity gains at ever-greater costs. Seriously, you should try to see people who rely on Google Maps' directions try to navigate their local area without it.
LLMs being received as an improvement over the current state of Japanese-English translation is only barely a victory. It also signals a failure on our part (broadly speaking) to provide a real alternative beyond pirate scanlation and fansub groups, even if a lot has been stacked against us vs lefties who have never experienced real oppression in their lives beyond a relative or two disowning them for being gay or some shit. The goal shouldn't be to replace faggots "translators" with LLM output that's tweaked by non-translators, but to replace their shitty backhanded companies with our guys and make buying translated anime and manga a less cancerous option.

>>112888
>replace their shitty backhanded companies with our guys
We don't have guys. This imageboard has like 5 users and everywhere else on the internet is full of nigger/jew-worshippers and fags that hate anime because it has sexy middle school girls. Editing a few lines in .ass files and making a small website to link to those unpozzed subs takes a miniscule amount of effort and costs no more than running a small imageboard like this one, yet nobody cares enough to do that. Payment processors and banks wouldn't even need to bother shutting down a company trying to sell unpozzed translations because there's no market for it in the first place.

>>112888
>replace their shitty backhanded companies with our guys and make buying translated anime and manga a less cancerous option.
Lol, lmao even. They have literal billions of dollars backing them up, non-profits, universities, etc, etc. They're merely another symptom of the ever present rot and corruption. You're not changing that without uprooting all this mess.
>This is done in the name of greater "productivity"
>diminishing returns
Don't buy into this modernist shit, there's no "greater productivity" anywhere, people have to work more to achieve less in this retarded system. Do you think people like the amish or whatnot have to slave 8+ hours every day just to make ends meet? They don't.
Waste of good trips.

>>112885
Ai can't translate for shit. I've already seen the comparison from manual translation referenced from dictionary than AI. Seriously, the translation accuracy from AI is not even close to what the real meaning of the text. Anything that is inheritely long text dialog from jp games, AI couldn't do it.

>>115038
>Ai can't translate for shit.
This. Maybe they'll get it right years from now, but for the moment the subtleties of human speech are lost on these next-most-likely-word math predictors.

>>112880
YES
But it may cost your fren his ring finger in the process. Smol, price I'd say.