/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

Where's that link that explains what happened to the agdg community after the exodus? About splitting into groups and whatnot?
I can't find it.

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>>2400
That in itself is pretty sad if you have any memory of how vibrant 8chan's /agdg/ was. It wasn't a matter of raw PPH, but just how many good developers and promising projects there were.
I guess there's no use in me bellyaching over the past. 8chan died six years ago, and the webring has enough people bemoaning its state and theorizing about how to fix it instead of just doing fun shit together.

>>2401
They all went back to halfchan for the publicity. That's all to it.

>>2400
There's people who visit and post here, but I work on a lot of different things so I may create an illusion that there's more active devs here than there actually are. Since I know what posts are mine it's very obvious to me how rarely someone else posts what they're working on.

>>2401
Personally I have no interest in the past, I'm always thinking what can we do from here. Other than being here so new visitors don't think the place is completely dead, my only real theory for "fixing imageboards" is to make my own imageboard and do many things correctly at the same time: positive non-confrontational atmosphere, encourage OC and projects, new interesting site features and unusual boards, admin/dev who is easily reachable and takes suggestions for improving the site, free board creation as long as the board is not too contrary to site culture or otherwise trying to cause harm, surgically precise moderation that only targets things that do actual harm to fun. I think a lot of things have to fall in place at the same time if you want it to make a difference.

>>2402
Nope. From what I saw, the ones who posted on cuck/agdg/ were there because it was temporarily a better place than what zzzchan's /agdg/ became for a while: a bunch of easily upset nodevs who didn't meme and weren't interesting to talk to. 
>>2403
I should probably do likewise, even though everything I've fucked around with over the last couple years has gone nowhere, as at least it's something to talk about. It's definitely better than waiting until I have something that satisfies me and leaving the few people here to talk about their projects in isolation.

>>2403
>make my own imageboard
Problems: Where do you get a userbase from? Most just flock to where others already are. And fresh blood is a completely captivated audience by FAGMAN.

You know there's always /late/, OP.

/late/ is too pure for this furfaggot.

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Work in progress walk animation for Kasha.
Also managed to finally get over my art block on Sachi's hair. Kinda like how it came out. All I have to do is texture her now.

>>2393
Kasha is so cute

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>>2394
I'm happy you like her friend.

>>2380
What the FUCK

I just gave each chunk their own buffers and generate a list of render commands (so when I render a chunk it can just blast through state changes and draw calls without having to process anything). The chunks now render in less than 10 microseconds, i.e. <0.01 milliseconds, and the total frame time is <0.3 milliseconds.

I figured this would make it faster but I had no idea the difference would be this huge.

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>>2385
Forgot my image.

>>2386
Is it meant to be disparate across boundaries?

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>>2388
No, I tried to make the tiles connect and pic related was the result, I've stared at this for multiple hours but it just doesn't make any sense so I left it for later.

>>2389
I'm dumb I just realized what it was. The horizontal/vertical connections only have to check 1 condition (if it's at the edge then it needs to get the tile from adjacent chunk), so I foolishly assumed that diagonals do too, but diagonals actually have 4 conditions. For example the top-left connection, top-left tile has to check top-left chunk, top tiles the top chunk, left tiles the left chunk, and the rest the current chunk.

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>>2073
Released 1.0 of this just now.
The reason I experimented with vectors >>2219 is so I could draw the favorite stars.

The only real thing missing is performance, but I can't be bothered to do anything since this is already fast enough for all of my needs. The amount of effort required to manage a path/file cache wouldn't be worth what I'd gain.

>>2335
Neat! Glad you've made such progress with it. Any plans for new projects now?

>>2336
I jump around projects randomly so I can't predict anything. Maybe an imageboard.

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Speaking of making an imageboard, I'm thinking of how to store data in an efficient way in a database/whatever. A lot of strings are very short, so it feels dumb to store a 4-byte or 8-byte integer for their length, giving them a fixed length like 200 is also wasteful. On the other hand, if you use a small integer, then you may run into limitations. So, to make things easier and get all the advantages, I came up with a way to read and write variable-length integers, inspired by UTF-8. I can just use this and not have to think about it:
#define swap_endian_16(x) __builtin_bswap16(x)
#define swap_endian_32(x) __builtin_bswap32(x)
#define swap_endian_64(x) __builtin_bswap64(x)

static u64 flexint_read_u64 (void* data, u64* value) {
	if (*(u8*)data < 0b10000000) {
		*value = *(u8*)data;
		return 1;
	}

>>2337
Neat! I personally prefer the horrors of compile-time dispatch using Sepples templates, but this looks efficient.

>>2337
One downside of this is that it might be harder to resize data since the beginning of the string may need to move, you have to avoid overwriting the memory from the beginning of the string and such. Honestly, I've had variable length ints my mind for a long time but I can no longer remember what exactly I wanted them for. It was probably for some kind of string lists, arrays of arrays, maybe even data streams for an MMO, or to compete with JSON which technically only needs 3 bytes/characters to separate strings ("",).

Heads up to moderation: the guy who tanked the /agdg/ thread over on zzchan apparently thinks he's gonna try his shit here too now. His schtick is to post gifs and shit of a bunch of squares moving on a screen and then some inane non-question like "what do I do now? I don't get the maths" or whatever. Keep an eye out and delete/ban on sight please, thanks.

>>2238
This is him is you don't recognize the posting style: 
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>>2238
>>2239
Thanks for the headsup, Anon. Yes, he's been abusing Trashchan for a few days now.

>>2238
I still find it baffling they refused to do anything about it.

>>2244
It's appreciated.

>>2247
>I still find it baffling they refused to do anything about it.
I remember seeing that guy in the zzz/v/ /agdg/ threads and his posts were promptly deleted almost every time they appeared. Did I miss something?
I figured those threads slowed down due to the autist posting his DA-tier scribbles of uncanny women.

>>2105
Newer doesn't always mean better. There's people who still make amazing stuff with just C or "C-like C++" (AKA C with only a select few C++ features) because the fundamentals of programming haven't really changed in decades, it's much more important to nail that part than some C++ features.

>>2108
I haven't read the books but I would avoid the Java ones because that's a pretty abandoned language these days and was always a mistake in a lot of ways. It may be useful if you want to get a job maintaining some old ass crapware that was built on Java though.

Visual Basic stuff will probably get you locked into Microsoft's ecosystem, which is extra bad since Microsoft has been heading straight into the trash in recent years. Some of that stuff is probably obsolete too since Microsoft keeps updating their shit.

>>2109
>Newer doesn't always mean better.
No, but C++11 got some new features to the point it might be considered as a different language (lambdas, vararg templates, range-based for, constexpr functions, etc. Concepts can also be useful if you do templates, but they're a newer additions and assumes you're not stupid. Of course still no static reflection, so you'll be forced to roll your own for anything but the most trivial programs, but that's just how C++ evolves, useful features have the lowest priority)
>fundamentals of programming haven't really changed in decades
Yeah, but these books look more like teach language X instead of teach programming fundamentals.
>I would avoid the Java ones because that's a pretty abandoned language
Thank you for contradicting yourself in one post.

>>2113
I'm not against Java because "it won't get new features", I'm against it because there's no future for it. There will be less and less jobs for it, less of a community and discussion and help, and the virtual machine that runs Java will probably have less support in the future, who knows if it runs on future consoles or phones.

>>2114
>no future for it
I wouldn't say it so clearly. Sure, not as popular as it used to be, but lot of enterprise garbage are still written in java. Visual Basic is much worse in this regard (not that I'd miss any of them, both languages are an abomination).

>>2266
You can only get a lightweight engine or a drag/drop editor.

>>1787
Great stuff.

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The developer of Teardown did a talk about their new physics engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvsvd67XUKw

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I've come to a very enlightening conclusion on gamedev and it's really improved my outlook on how successful my game will be. It's based on the idea that most people (90% or more) involved in gamedev are idiots. These are the people that are permanently stuck in tutorial hell/decision paralysis instead of actually making something and getting hands-on experience, trust fund kiddos that do nothing but throw money at third-worlders on Fiverr and Upwork and say "make my game for me" then get really mad when none of it looks good or plays well, people that don't understand why their totally unique match-3 puzzle game with pastel colors only sold two copies, one of which was refunded, or people that actually have a good game but only decided to start marketing weeks before release with some halfassed reddit posts and nobody knows it exists.
So when you read articles like "Most games on Steam never make a profit" it seems demoralizing at first, but when you look a bit deeper you realize that most games released on Steam are asset flips, AI garbage, puzzle games, or games that otherwise had zero effort put into their development or marketing. The few remaining games are ones that actually had effort and thought put into them and are doing pretty well.
With all this in mind, if your game is:
>unique
>fun to play
>looks good
>has a modest amount of mar

>>2222
The vast majority of people are retarded. There's nothing surprising about that, but it's hard to internalize just how far-reaching consequences that has, other people's retardation can warp your perception of reality. Most people really have no idea what they're doing or talking about, and lack even the most basic ability to interpret the world around them or their own actions and their consequences.

As long as you care about making a good game, succeed in making it, and don't completely fuck up the content that is visible on your store page, it will probably find success automatically thanks to Steam's algorithm and word of mouth. You only "need" marketing if your game is ok but not great, or if your game is garbage that relies on meme streamer appeal or virality to make anyone care about it.

>>2222
This has also been a revelatory experience for me, in many things other than game development. With how many generation-defining indie games have released in the last few years (I consider 2025 to be 2 AP; 2 years After Pizza Tower) it can seem daunting to ever imaging having the same level of cultural or commercial success.

But I'm finally trying to get around to doing something with my free time and ideas. If the number of stupid people who've stumbled onto success is any indicator then it can't be that hard.

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>>1587
Are you trying to invent cataclysm:dark days ahead?

>backpacks
Why not just make everything into a storage? All existing items have to be stored somewhere, and a lot of items are both storages and "items". So simply register every item, by ID/pointer into its storage space. On loading, recursively load all used storages, starting from "the world". 
Its actually important part of the interface. Depending on number of items/buttons, game might start lagging, if every button pressed checks every other button location against it. You will need to separate them into containers anyway. 
And with everything being a container of their own, you can have "hidden" part, where item stores materials its made of.  

>how to ID
You either use half assed system, or make a proper all encompassing item ID system. 
> I want to refer to the inventory by it's name
You dont mean, you literally search all existing items via std::string or something like that?

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>>1587
>>1588
>create_item()
>create_inventory() 
I just realized that the way I explained it doesn't make any sense because I left out context. Those functions in reality are create_iteminfo() and create_inventoryinfo().

The way my stuff is organized is that I have objects and infos. The info represents the object's type and has all the static information about it, like name and description and sprite, you only modify those at game startup. The object has per-object information, like how many items are in an item stack, they are actual objects that exist in the world.

Pic related are the actual, un-edited data structures for my items. What I'm talking about is creating an Iteminfo, and connecting the relevant Inventoryinfoid into it. I don't need or want to store the inventory info's string ID into the item info, I just want the numerical ID, but the item info may be created before the inventory info so the numerical ID wouldn't exist yet.

>Are you trying to invent cataclysm:dark days ahead?
Not sure what makes you think that.

Test.

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New bread.
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>>1587
You need a better vision of what your game should be about, what is it called?

>>1896
Possible but probably not? You sound like you use giant cpu towers and high-end gpus which are giant anyway.

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What one is better (for game development), the RX 7700 XT or RX 6750 XT?

I'm planning to pair it with an Ryzen 7 7700 and 32gb DDR5 6000mhz.

The price difference between these two cards is about 63 euro.

I don't think anyone on any imageboard has the required level of hardware and software/engine performance knowledge to be able to answer this.

>>1953
Should be fine either way. It only matters for working with blender, and in a minor way. Most new hardware is more than good enough for game dev, except when its something randomly unsupported.

>>1953
Both are fine. You usually just want something with enough VRAM, low power draw and a fast enough core.
However, the 7000 series/RDNA3 has a flaw with rendering proper 1080p with av1, I believe, and AMD just gave up on fixing it since it was a hardware/architectural issue.