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>>5169
Same to you.

>>2851
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBS:_The_Documentary
>BBS: The Documentary (commonly referred to as BBS Documentary) is a 3-disc, 8-episode documentary about the subculture born from the creation of the bulletin board system (BBS) filmed by computer historian Jason Scott of textfiles.com.
> Wired called it "a five-and-a-half-hour paean to the era when computers were named Stacy and Lisa, and tech loyalists fought bitter battles over the superiority of Ataris to Amigas".
Not that I care about Wired, but a documentary this long made by people who are actually part of the subculture should be at least informative, so I might as well bump this thread.

Also, if you want to run a BBS you should also consider using existing BBS software:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BBS_software

>>5211
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_(BBS_software)
>Waffle is a bulletin-board system created by Tom Dell for the Dark Side of the Moon BBS which ran under DOS and later UNIX. The software was unique among DOS BBS software in many ways, including the fact that all of the configuration files were in readable text files, and that it fully supported Usenet and UUCP on the DOS platform.
>A Usenet news group named comp.bbs.waffle was created for discussion of the Waffle BBS System.
>Waffle was first released in 1989.[1] The last version seems to be v1.65.[2] There was a beta version of 1.66 on the main site, but it was never released.
>It was possible to link Waffle (under DOS) to Fidonet and WWIV using external gateway utilities. 
This definitely sounds interesting, but there is surprisingly little info available. Still, there is the source code for a UNIX version here:
https://archive.org/details/unix-waffle-1.64-src

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>>2848
> goto10.fr (Minitel)
This looks so much nicer and easier to use than the shitty sncf.fr website that usually never works right with any of my web browsers. ;_;
The moderm web a shit!

>>5212
Although if you want a BBS with usenet integration then there is at least one still maintained alternative:
https://www.synchro.net/
https://wiki.synchro.net/module:newslink?s[]=nntp

https://synchro.net/sbbslist.html
I've tried to visit a few of these, and it seems like that either ssh doesn't work, or I just can't figure out what am I supposed to do. Telnet connections are perfectly fine, but if I try to enter with ssh followed by the domain of the bbs, then it just tries to log in as my Linux user. And I can't figure out if I need to add a flag to ssh or an user before the domain or something else.

AI generated web 1.0 wiki
https://grokipedia.com/

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Only Internet memories are vaguely watching my dad and brother use a BBS, and seeing others typing in real time in an actually instant messenger that doesn't exist anywhere anymore as far as I know, then timeskip from the mid-90's to early 00's and been active online since.

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>>5081
Why miss it when you can go to Marginalia and Wiby, or hell IRC and Gopher and BBS and Usenet, RIGHT NOW?

https://www.livinginternet.com/
I've only read the parts about usenet so far, but it seems to be a collection of neat little articles focusing on people and anecdotes.
https://www.livinginternet.com/u/ui_alt.htm

>From: reid@decwrl.dec.com (Brian Reid)
>Message-Id: <8804040154.AA01236@woodpecker.dec.com>
>Date: 3 Apr 1988 1754-PST (Sunday)
>To: backbone@purdue.edu, chiefdan@vax1.acs.udel.edu,
>mejac!hoptoad!gnu@decwrl.dec.com
>Subject: Re: soc.sex final results
>In-Reply-To: Gene Spafford / Sun, 03 Apr 88 18:22:36 EST.
><8804032322.AA15650@arthur.cs.purdue.edu>

>To end the suspense, I have just created alt.sex.
>That meant that the alt network now carried alt.sex and

>>4725
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>>5199
Seems like it also explains this phenomenon:
https://www.livinginternet.com/i/iw_dns_name.htm
>Third-level domains. Third-level Internet domain names are created by those that own second-level domains. Third-level domains can be used to set up individual domains for specific purposes, such as a domain for web access and one for mail, or a separate site for a special purpose:
<www.livinginternet.com
<mail.livinginternet.com
<rareorchids.livinginternet.com
So the www is just there for specifically the world wide web server, and if you run a mail server on a separate machine, then you can use a mail subdomain. But you can name the subdomains whatever you want, and also point all of them to the same machine. So it would be possible, for example, to set up a BBS on your own machine and ask nicely over at /meta/ to make bbs.trashchan.xyz point at the static IP associated with the machine running the BBS. Make no mistake, I'm not advocating for that, it's just an example to show the reasoning behind this subdomain system, 

>>4420
I had no idea that they did Rio, let alone that they liked Nagel's art.

>>401
I would've tried to live in that. Maybe I am deranged, but looks quite appealing to my senses.

>>4412
Vietnamese nail salon art?

>>4809
It looks kinda fancy or glammed up (even if dated) - I can see how the ladies dug that stuff. I kinda enjoyed the haircut experience for the same reason - never had enough coverage for pompadours and such but big crazy hair always sounded cool to me.

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Some Atari 2600 game ads.

>>4685
I watched Planetes, but it was years ago. About the only things I remember now are the opening scene of the disaster caused by the orbiting bolt, and the fact the 12yo girl was as big as a fullgrown woman.

>>4685
What all's good about it?

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>>4690
The Lunarian girl, yeah. It was nice to see a series that had science fiction concepts like people living on the moon and added details like the health problems a human would face growing up and going through puberty at a fraction of Earth gravity.

>>4692
The number one thing I can say about both the anime and the manga is that they are absolutely gorgeous. The manga was published in 1999, so stylistically it combines the 90s grit with the more human proportions and style that became prevalent in the 00s. Visually, the manga is a beautiful blend of highly detailled mechanical stuff and endearing human characters with incredible detail put into the backgrounds and set dressing. The anime is also very detailled given that it aired in 2003-04, around the time that anime began to lose its way and rely too much on digital shortcuts.

The anime is also incredibly sound on a technical level, which is especially impressive since so much of the series takes place in zero-gravity, low-G, and normal-G environments, the characters often require a fundamentally different approach to how they're animated. It'd be really easy to have a lot of bland, slideshow shots of them sliding across stiff backgrounds, but whenever the characters aren't in normal-G environments they actually move like it. The sound design underscores this too: the 

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>>4700
Some examples of the anime addressing how astronauts actually move around in zero-G environments.

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Manga! BBC TV Special
The Beeb's 1994 documentary on the manga and anime phenomenon that was just starting to hit the UK at the time, and its origins in Japan. Presented by Jonathan Ross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89WoIJGY0M

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>>3186
>look up his site
>he's still at it
HE HAS A KITTY

>>4531
Wow, I see these wallpapers when I am unconscious. I always wondered where it was from.

is frutiger aero retro already?

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>>4857
Many people would say so. I don't think I would though.

it became retro after 20 years and well time flys fast the old web is still out here like a old house being barried over and a new home built on it. it never left it will always be there but its the foundation of the new house

>>5097
Hearty lulz

Nokia used to run ads with some serious cuties on them. Wish I could find those wallpapers again, stupidly didn't name them.

>>2612
If you dig around, you can find the full video. There's other women in it and it's all topless nudity. It feels slightly pornographic (even though nothing explicit happens) but the real intention apparently was art. I got curious because I miss 00s "amateur" porn. That stuff today is just kinda gross imo.

>>5149
You should share the link with the class, you teaser!
https://archive.org/details/howtohavecybersexontheinternet1996

>>5160

Imma do it (wish me luck)

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>>5202 (OP) 
I completely get what you mean. These kinds of images from the aesthetics thread illustrate what come to mind for me, especially when paired with smooth-jazz-like background music. The "den5" image doesn't quite feel as upscale as what's in my head though. I picture a more minimal and classy-looking computer setup and darker walls, with maybe more simplified decorations. I'd also nix the file tray and pen holder and add a skyscraper view. And a green marble desk too. For whatever reason, my mind always jumps to green marble surfaces. I'm not bashing the way the guy made the image, but I think it looks too middle management for the subject at hand. It should look like the type of office you could picture a suave but potentially villainous CEO character sitting in in a sci-fi movie from decades ago. He could be poised confidently with his hands in a scholars' cradle position as the majordomo of his operation leads the protagonist into his den, or maybe he could be self-assuredly surveying the city outside his window in a moment of repose.

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>>5202 (OP) 
I think I get it, but calling it officepunk is certainly wrong. Punks are essentially angry street urchin with their own subculture(s), so calling everything whateverpunk is just wrong, especially because a corpo environment is the exact opposite of a bunch of angry street urchin who are so low in the hierarchy that they are trying to move outside of society instead of upward. Calling it XXth century office aesthetics or something along those lines might be clumsy, but also more accurate.

>>5205
>calling it officepunk is certainly wrong
In the vaporwave (music genre) sphere people call this "officesoft", which is a combination of "Office" and "(micro)Soft". I think I prefer that term.
>angry street urchin
LMAO!

>>5206
Officesoft is a better term for it, no doubt. I will have to go searching for artists who make it.

I have been meaning to get productive with Blender so perhaps this will help inspire me. (Probably not. I am terribly lazy.)

>>5142
Neat! Thanks, Anon.

I just found this 90's site which is compatible with windows 3.1 , win95 and win98

https://lifeseven.com/1990s/

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Here's how I watch VHS anime without a working VCR
>use my PS2 S-Video cable to connect my modded PS3 to my CRT
>open Movian M7 homebrew app
>install archive.org plugin
>play one of countless available VHS rips
>alternatively open the youtube app and visit channels like this one >>4360
Almost feels like the real thing.

>>5204
Why not just copy the VHS rips directly onto a memory card or something?

>>5207
Cause its easier to just press play  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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So you can turn pretty much any computer capable of running MS-DOS into a serial console for *NIX. And I guess you could use FreeDOS instead of MS-DOS if you want more freedom.

>>5196
Thanks that was neat.

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>>5196
Basically, everyone did this back in the day. The only difference is they had a modem connected to the serial port (or just an ISA card with the modem built-in) and then they used AT commands to configure modem settings and dial into a remote system (such as a BBS, or Unix ISP).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_command_set
In fact, I kept using the same AT commands when I first installed Linux on my 486, because I had no SLIP or PPP account at my ISP. They only gave us plain old Unix shell accounts. So I would run Minicom and then proceed exactly as I did in DOS. That means then entire Linux TCP/IP stack wasn't used at all, because you don't get assigned an IP address when you just dial in like this. If the call completes successfully (remote end isn't busy and there's no hankshake errors) you just got dumped into a shell prompt at a terminal server, and from there you'd use telnet to connect to your assigned Unix host (where you had to login with username and password). If you wanted to transfer files to/from your PC, you had to use ZModem protocol, or else you could probably use Kermit but I never installed that because I was already familiar with the Telix style comms software. That's a unfortunate, because Kermit is much more capable, so I wish I'd tried it at least.
In fact, y

>>5198
And how did the process of subscribing work? As in, did they mail you an instruction booklet alongside your username and password, and maybe a floppy with telix to make sure that you can log in?

>>5200
I don't know how it worked for other people, but for me it went like this:
> Ordered parts over the phone to build a 486 PC to run Doom in 1994. I already had the 3-episode game on floppy disk (copied from someone else). They also copied the MSDOS 6 install disks for me.
> Received box of parts in the mail, put everything together, played a lot of Doom!
> Some month later bought a 14.4K modem from a local store. In the box was also a floppy disk with very basic comms software (not as nice as Telix, but enough to get started).
> Called some local BBS that I found the number for somewhere (probably in a magazine?) Anyway I don't remember which board it was exactly. But from here I quickly found numbers for many, many other local BBS, and wrote them down, and started calling them.
The way it works on BBS is you have to login with username/password. But if you don't have an account, you can create one and enter your personal infos like real name, address, phone number, and whatever username/password you want to use on that board. Then the sysop will review it and probably OK it, unless you're a known lamer (troublemaker). Then the next time you call the BBS, you'll find out if your account is active, or if you were denied.
I didn't get Internet access until later on, when